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Hi
I find that since the update the fonts are too small. I have adjusted my resolution and font DPI on my computer to make things bigger. However your application appears to ignore these preferences. Is there anyway to make the fonts (eg, names, chips and cards) bigger? I've had an IT expert look over my computer and we have made every windows setting as large as it will go. However these settings dont take effect in your program. Please advise on how to resolve. |
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Unfortunately there is no settings (as yet) for fonts, however if you enlarge the table size by clikind and dragging the corners this should help make it a little bit clearer. Please try the four coloured deck and disabling avatars as well.
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The t & c's of the Silver & Gold SnG leaderboards specifically refer to SnG tournaments, and not just STT's. Have you any plans to amend these t & c's, belatedly, to assuage players who haven't read them properly?
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1, After minimising a table, the chip graphic dissapears and a players bet-size is often obscured by the total pot size being super-imposed over the top of it, particularly the player at the top of the table. This must be costing you money as I can't be the only player not prepared to multi-table off of the back of this. Are there any plans to address this issue. (I would prefer the industry standard clear chip graphic, with a numerical value revealed if I hover the cursor over it.
2, Can't find anything on the site re the upcoming GSOP (which looks good). Can we have a page devoted to it, hopefully with a sat schedule too. |
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Daryl Revok 02 Aug 10 19:01
The t & c's of the Silver & Gold SnG leaderboards specifically refer to SnG tournaments, and not just STT's. Have you any plans to amend these t & c's, belatedly, to assuage players who haven't read them properly? Hi Daryl Revok, Thanks for raising this. You are correct, we have made an error in naming here which we will correct ASAP. As you know, multi table SnGs were not available on our previous software; We did mean to state single table SnGs only. Our apology for this oversight, the terms will be corrected, but we can confirm the leaderboard will only take into account the performance on single table SnGs. |
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1) if you don't have control over things is there any point in asking for sensible things like auto reload, sensible sized tables and not having the software stupidly resource heavy
2) if you're moving to party software, is there any point in asking for anything? (obviously you won't tell us, just like you didn't tell us about this most recent move) 3) why should i play on betfair ahead of other sites that work like party poker and *'s etc |
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what have you done to your poker site?
I have been playing betfair poker 1 for well over a year. Generally happy with what you provided, with few glitches though could never get the Poker buddy to automatically load my hand histories. Well thats in the past - your new ONGAME skin is absolute RUBBISH. where do I start SB and BB identical, 5 max, Avatars, Chat from random tables, Repeated Disconnection. I have read previous threads and still dont understand your decision. Ladbrokes and WHill use far better skins. You have now lost me as a Betfair poker player. |
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Another make it up as you go along promotion enters the annals of Betfair Poker history. Congratulations. :(
Now you've penalised anybody who actually read the T& C's and based their gameplay strategy, quite reasonably imo, upon them. |
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Hammerdfu 02 Aug 10 19:14
WTF is this preselect next action ...fold i understand ...call .. if you select call and someone raises all in before it comes to you .are you calling this bet ...??? if so that option has to go its wrong ..very wrong Hi, If you select ‘call’ it will call the current bet. If somebody then raises the pot before your turn to act you will then have to choose again. You will not automatically call any raise by checking this. ![]() |
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what have you done to your poker site?
I have been playing betfair poker 1 for well over a year. Generally happy with what you provided, with few glitches though could never get the Poker buddy to automatically load my hand histories. Well thats in the past - your new ONGAME skin is absolute RUBBISH. where do I start SB and BB identical, 5 max, Avatars, Chat from random tables, Repeated Disconnection. I have read previous threads and still dont understand your decision. Ladbrokes and WHill use far better skins. You have now lost me as a Betfair poker player. The SB and BB are not the same on all tables - it is just PLO. This is just a replication of offline poker. There are 6max tables exclusive to Betfair available in the lobby. Avatars can be turned off in settings (highly recommended by us) Random chat - as far as we know there is lobby chat and table chat. What have you seen that is frustrating you. If you suffer from a disconnection we would like to be informed. Please mail pokerinfo@betfair.com if this happens again with details of when this occured. Thanks |
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Hi Ghostbusters,
Some good and valid questions there. We have answered in line below. 1) if you don't have control over things is there any point in asking for sensible things like auto reload, sensible sized tables and not having the software stupidly resource heavy - There certainly is. We are proud of what we built with our old software, and a large part of the feature set was built on the back of player feedback we received. In future, while we are not building the features ourselves, we are working with our software suppliers as one of their principle customers to make sure that our players' wishes are we taken into account in their product's plans. Please continue to forward your feedback to us and we hope to see the most popular feature requests implemented in future releases. 2) if you're moving to party software, is there any point in asking for anything? (obviously you won't tell us, just like you didn't tell us about this most recent move) - There is much speculation around this, but to be clear, our plans are to remain on our current software. 3) why should i play on betfair ahead of other sites that work like party poker and *'s etc We've had this question before, and we think our previous answer still stands: 1. Betfair Promotions + Bonuses – continuous high value promos for all levels of player, from freeroll series to cash leaderboards. 2. Rakeback/Loyalty – if the player is already on RB then this is a unique chance for them to earn RB on Ongame. If there are not then our loyalty scheme gives back maximum value allowed by Ongame at every level so they will not be able to get better value anywhere else. 3. Betfair Cashier – the ease and speed of depositing and withdrawing funds to and from Betfair is the industry's best. 4. Betfair only tourneys and cash tables – we have implemented tourneys and cash tables that are only accessible through the Betfair Poker 2 client, for Betfair players. 5. Discounted sports exchange commission through poker play. |
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There are sats for various events such as the Irish Poker classic and the GSOP but no details of these on your site. I have progressed through 2 rounds of the former but have no idea what the package is that I am playing for.
Could you also update the MTT leaderboard. In general though, I like the new site. |
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when will you correct the ROI leaderboards. they are false. ty.
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1. There was far more lagging on Sunday afternoon/evening, is this due to traffic?
2. Allow chat at table from observers - this is important to many of us. 3. GSOP looks better than IPoker's ECOOP,agree with Daryl, get some details on this. 4. More sensible, non-turbo satellites to ChampionChip, the 50 seat turbo was a complete crapshoot. 5. When i resize tables the font is fine but the chips look like specs, dont resize them. Overall I'm very happy with the move. |
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Hi Daryl,
1, After minimising a table, the chip graphic dissapears and a players bet-size is often obscured by the total pot size being super-imposed over the top of it, particularly the player at the top of the table. This must be costing you money as I can't be the only player not prepared to multi-table off of the back of this. Are there any plans to address this issue. (I would prefer the industry standard clear chip graphic, with a numerical value revealed if I hover the cursor over it. You are not the first one to raise this with us and I can confirm that this will be fixed by the network. 2, Can't find anything on the site re the upcoming GSOP (which looks good). Can we have a page devoted to it, hopefully with a sat schedule too. Good news! We are very close to launch of a new section on the Poker site which will be covering all our Featured Tournaments, including GSOP, which will give you all the information you are looking for; including satellite schedule. Reason why this page is not live today is due to upcoming changes to the network tournament schedule. |
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Please could you tell me how long it will be before your site works properly so that I may one day return and play there? (I've been waiting 3 years so far)
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windings2
We apologise that the MTT leaderboards have not been updated. We are working hard on resolving this issue. Rest assured that your play will not be in vain ![]() |
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mtoto2 02 Aug 10 19:39
when will you correct the ROI leaderboards. they are false. ty. mtoto2, we have noted the concerns expressed on the forum about the accuracy of the results. We need more time to make absolutely sure the results are correct, and will update accordingly as soon as possible. Please remember though that the leaderboards only takes a small sample of single table SnGs (between 35 and 70 max); a player could very well have a specific result over this small sample and a very different one over a larger number of games. |
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i understand that but the players at the top in question haven't even played that many games.
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I have not decided yet whether I will use betfair 2, as it is still early days for me. As a relative beginner of less than one year I am still trying to find the kind of poker that suits me. I only know that since the upgrade I have used william hill more than usual. I think this was an opportunity missed, the site is very basic, certainly not an 'upgrade'.
THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THE NEW SITE 1. Front page chat 2. Better cards, I can see flushes etc more clearly 3. More fixed limit games, but unfortunately only 5 or 10 and then because of no waiting lists it is extreemly annoying trying to get a game. I usually give up and go on willhill, where there are waiting lists. THINGS I DO NOT LIKE ABOUT THE SITE 1. NO WAITING LISTS. How on earth can you have a poker site with no waiting lists? I like fixed limit games and was looking forward to getting a game more easily at low limits. Unfortunately now it is a nightmare to get on one. They are usually all full tables so you have to wait until there is a seat free, but then you click the table and the seat is gone - urghh. ( I would have put a devil smiley there, but it is not working, quelle surprise ). 2. NO FIND PLAYER LISTS 3. NO CHOICE OF TURBO CASH GAMES. The time allowed is too much on some games and there is no turbo option. It seems the time allowed is the same for all games, whereas on the old betfair you could choose turbo, super turbo and beginner. 4. NO NATIONALITY GIVEN 5. NO POSITION IN TOURNIES NEXT TO NAME IN GAME. You have to go to game info for your position, whereas in betfair 1 it was right in front of you. 5. NO EXTRA FILTERS 6. FOLDED CARDS NOT ON GAME BOARD. The folded cards are there but you have to go to game info for it, betfair 1 had it right in front of you. 7. NO OBSERVER CHAT. Even if you do not chat much it was nice when people commented 'good game' when you left, now you cannot reply to them. 8. NO CHOICE OF AVATARS. I do not like avatars and have them switched off. However, if someone is playing me with his avatars on I can be represented by someone completely different to me, usually a man. In William Hill, you can choose who you want to be represented by, so if someone is playing me they see a woman I have chosen. 9. NO 2000 SNGS OR TOURNIES. I used to play almost exclusively 2000 sngs - now I have none. Why are they almost all 1500 starting stacks? 10. SATELLITE, BUT NO CLUE TO TOURNEY. Not sure about this one but someone mentioned it. 11. NO WARNING YOU ARE ABOUT TO CLOSE. I have sometimes clicked on the exit by mistake and usually on betfair 1 you would get a warning, now you exit straight away and have to re enter. 12. WHY 5 SEATER, BUT 10 CHAIRS 13. HARDLY ANY POT LIMIT. In betfair 1 you did have some but now I do not see any - I was looking forward to playing more pot limit. 14. HAND HISTORIES ARE AWFUL. In betfair 1 there were several features which are not in the 'upgrade'. 15. ONLY 5 TABLES OR 10 TABLES. Again I have had to go to willhill to get a six max table. 16. NO DEEPSTACK TOURNIES 17. TAKING NOTES IS TERRIBLE. The screen freezes, I think when it is your turn, so trying to make notes in short handed games is impossible - again in will hill there is not a problem. 18. 'YOU ARE OUT OF THIS TOURNEMENT - LEAVE' This is an awful message. Surely it should say something like sorry you have failed this time, but better luck next time ? 19. NO TIMEOUT 20. CANNOT SUPPORT MULTI TABLING? I tried to do three tables and the cards would not display, then at the last minute they did but too late and i was folded with ak suited - urrgh! 21. CANNOT CHANGE COLOUR OF TABLE. Cards look better on certain colour tables, but now it is like it or lump it. 22. CANNOT PLAY IN POUNDS OR EUROS. I know you could not on betfair 1, but I had hoped you could on the 'upgrade'. I enjoy playing in pounds on willhill as it seems more real, especially when you win! I am sure there are several more, but that is what I have found so far. I would like to add that the customer service is still the same, mainly useless. Why don't you make it a condition that anyone on the helpdesk plays poker in their own time, so they know what you are talking about. I have phoned about several things since the upgrade and the only one who was any good was 'ED' WHO WAS BRILLIANT. He understood what I was asking and guided me through the new site. The others did not know hardly anything and, as usual, kept asking me to hold on while they spoke to someone more senior and more able to help. |
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1. There was far more lagging on Sunday afternoon/evening, is this due to traffic?
2. Allow chat at table from observers - this is important to many of us. 3. GSOP looks better than IPoker's ECOOP,agree with Daryl, get some details on this. 4. More sensible, non-turbo satellites to ChampionChip, the 50 seat turbo was a complete crapshoot. 5. When i resize tables the font is fine but the chips look like specs, dont resize them. Overall I'm very happy with the move. 1) Cannot be 100% sure - sorry 2) We have had similar feedback from other players and agree it is a function that players should have. We are working to try and introduce this. 3) We are working on info for this and will get this up asap 4) There are plenty of non turbo satellites, however, we need to put more informaiton on the site so that players can find it more easily 5) We agree - apologies |
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Annie ...you can't send this with 5 minutes to go.
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Annie - you need to get out more! |
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4) There are plenty of non turbo satellites, however, we need to put more informaiton on the site so that players can find it more easily
I could not disagree with you more, there are hardly any, especially for ChampionChip. |
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I did not really expect an answer, pokerpr, it was just that I can type and most posters on here cannot, so I thought it would be a good idea to have the niggles in print so maybe someone in authority can see how they have missed a golden opportunity to really 'upgrade'. I was asked by your customer service dept to email them with the list as they wanted the feedback, but I thought it was better being seen on here.
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i think the upgrade is excellent.however i have 2 questions.
i have won a $30 championchip step 3 ticket. the green ticket logo only appears next to an 18 person sit and go.i have been checking every day at different times and the most entries it has ever had is 2.it simply does not get close to filling up ever.what am i supposed to use this ticket for? there are plenty of $25 dollar step 3 games i could play if it let me enter and credited me with the difference. my second question is "why can you not sychronize breaks in your tourneys?" two other minor points of issue are no find player and no country of origin.these have prob been mentioned but have not read thread yet.(typing this in one of your non synchronised breaks) otherwise excellent.played here for years.dont really get why everyone is moaning. |
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mostly a good list annie
i lol'd at the tourney message. YOUR TIME IS UP - LEAVE |
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last 2 rebuys i have played it has got to break and i have not been offered add on. SORT IT OUT. cant grumble too much shipped 2nd in $5 rebuy last night for $1300. BINK! |
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Waheyyyy 02 Aug 10 19:44
Please could you tell me how long it will be before your site works properly so that I may one day return and play there? (I've been waiting 3 years so far) Waheyyyyy, We’re glad to see you on our forum, as this means at least our communication with players is working for you. On a serious note, we’d really like to hear your constructive criticism and please don’t wait three years to send it to us. Thanks |
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Hi Poker PR,
1) A few times I have been playing all the tables and lobby dissappear. I know a few others have had this problem when will this be fixed? 2) Can you please bring in table waiting lists for cash tables? 3) Can you please bring in find a player option? 4) Can we chat while observing a table? 5) Are there going to be any cash leaderboards without having to opt into anything and affecting rake? Thank you |
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No more questions please.
We will answer all the questions below.....even annie's ![]() |
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why is there an exclusive limit option for poker, exchange games, arcade etc but not for sports betting??
That question is below. |
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1. No Waiting Lists – while we appreciate they are useful, waiting lists can also stop new games getting started. The software used to have waiting list and when they removed them many complained. However, once players got used to the new game selection they found they were getting better tables when they did get a seat.
2. No buddy list – we agree that there should be a tool for players to find their friends at tables and are looking at solutions to allow this to happen. 3. No choice of turbo cash games – we do have the ability to create Betfair only turbo cash tables and if we do get demand to introduce them then we’ll be happy to set some up. 4. No nationality – yes, we have had players complain about this. Again it’s due to be added as a feature in the poker room in the mid term. 5. No tourney position – we see your point here. It’s a feature that we’d like to add. 5a. No extra filters – afraid we’re not sure what you mean here. There are more filters options within the new lobby than we previously had. Is there a particular which is no longer there and you miss? 6. FOLDED CARDS NOT ON GAME BOARD. The folded cards are there but you have to go to game info for it, Betfair1 had it right in front of you. - As mentioned before - this kind of feedback is great for us. We'll take this feedback, estimate how popular they are amongst our players, and request them from our software partners. 7. NO OBSERVER CHAT. Even if you do not chat much it was nice when people commented 'good game' when you left, now you cannot reply to them. - We are eager to keep the good-natured Betfair community feel on Betfair Poker 2. This will be one area we look at to maintain this amongst others. 8. NO CHOICE OF AVATARS. I do not like avatars and have them switched off. However, if someone is playing me with his avatars on I can be represented by someone completely different to me, usually a man. In William Hill, you can choose who you want to be represented by, so if someone is playing me they see a woman I have chosen. - See your point. Fortunately everyone playing in this room sees the exact same avatar at all tables at the same position, so this is not as important in this room. 9. NO 2000 SNGS OR TOURNIES. I used to play almost exclusively 2000 sngs - now I have none. Why are they almost all 1500 starting stacks? - We can certainly look into this as well. If enough demand, we can develop this format more. 10. SATELLITE, BUT NO CLUE TO TOURNEY. Not sure about this one but someone mentioned it. - We will work on developing the satellite content on our website. However, if you have some suggestions on improving the content in our lobby information, please send them in to us. Meanwhile, please check the 'qualifier' selection in both of the tournament lobbies (SnG and Scheduled). 11. NO WARNING YOU ARE ABOUT TO CLOSE. I have sometimes clicked on the exit by mistake and usually on betfair 1 you would get a warning, now you exit straight away and have to re enter. This is an interesting point and something we will bring up with Ongame to see if it is on their roadmap. 12. WHY 5 SEATER, BUT 10 CHAIRS Maybe they had spare chairs and nowhere to stack them? 13. HARDLY ANY POT LIMIT. In betfair 1 you did have some but now I do not see any - I was looking forward to playing more pot limit. There is plenty of action on the Omaha tables but you are right there are no players at the PL holdem tables at the moment. 14. HAND HISTORIES ARE AWFUL. In betfair 1 there were several features which are not in the 'upgrade'. We apologise that you may be missing some of the features that were available but without any specifics from you I cannot tell you if they are on the Ongame roadmap or a bug that you may be experiencing. 15. ONLY 5 TABLES OR 10 TABLES. Again I have had to go to Willhill to get a six max table. We have set up special 6 seater tables specifically for Betfair players – and if those prove popular we will add more over time. 16. NO DEEPSTACK TOURNIES We can certainly look into some deepstack tournaments. 17. TAKING NOTES IS TERRIBLE. The screen freezes, I think when it is your turn, so trying to make notes in short handed games is impossible - again in will hill there is not a problem. Is it a reoccurring issue? If so, could you please specifically raise it in writing to pokerinfo@betfair.com. 18. 'YOU ARE OUT OF THIS TOURNEMENT - LEAVE' This is an awful message. Surely it should say something like sorry you have failed this time, but better luck next time ? We’ll look into this, you’re right, it is not the greatest message. 19. NO TIMEOUT We’re not sure what you mean exactly here? in terms of time to act, you have a longer clock then most other sites. There is however no time bank as such. 20. CANNOT SUPPORT MULTI TABLING? I tried to do three tables and the cards would not display, then at the last minute they did but too late and i was folded with ak suited - urrgh! If this issue reoccurs, then please let us know on pokerinfo@betfair.com. 21. CANNOT CHANGE COLOUR OF TABLE. Cards look better on certain colour tables, but now it is like it or lump it. I guess this is quite a personal taste – we have developed our colour scheme to achieve two things: best possible legibility and visibility of cards, and respect the colours of the Betfair brand. 22. CANNOT PLAY IN POUNDS OR EUROS. I know you could not on betfair 1, but I had hoped you could on the 'upgrade'. I enjoy playing in pounds on willhill as it seems more real, especially when you win! We’re obviously an international room, with the majority of our players actually coming from countries with euro currency. But the universal currency of poker is still mostly dollars, and this seems to make sense to the vast majority of our players. Sorry. Off to have a lie down now! |
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petersfield 02 Aug 10 20:16
Hi Poker PR, 1) A few times I have been playing all the tables and lobby dissappear. I know a few others have had this problem when will this be fixed? 2) Can you please bring in table waiting lists for cash tables? 3) Can you please bring in find a player option? 4) Can we chat while observing a table? 5) Are there going to be any cash leaderboards without having to opt into anything and affecting rake? Thank you 1. We would like to investigate this - can you email us details of how/when this happens? 2, Experience shows that this feature creates a looser room. Players that have experienced both call for this feature to remain in place. 3, We are reviewing this but are mindful that this has an adverse impact on learning players. Afraid we cannot promise a short term solution here. 4, Not at present. 5,We will have regular cash leaderboards going forward, and we intend to introduce more variety in their formats. In terms of opt-in, this simply helps identify the players who actually want to participate in those competitions. Could you let us know why you feel opt-in is an issue? |
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bingobarry 02 Aug 10 20:09
i think the upgrade is excellent.however i have 2 questions. i have won a $30 championchip step 3 ticket. the green ticket logo only appears next to an 18 person sit and go.i have been checking every day at different times and the most entries it has ever had is 2.it simply does not get close to filling up ever.what am i supposed to use this ticket for? there are plenty of $25 dollar step 3 games i could play if it let me enter and credited me with the difference. my second question is "why can you not sychronize breaks in your tourneys?" two other minor points of issue are no find player and no country of origin.these have prob been mentioned but have not read thread yet.(typing this in one of your non synchronised breaks) otherwise excellent.played here for years.dont really get why everyone is moaning. Thanks for your kind words bingobarry We’ll have to get back to you on the ticket – we will follow up with our partner on this one. On synchronised breaks, this is something we are discussing. We will let our users know if this gets introduced Country of origin will be addressed soon. On Find a player, please refer to the answer we gave Annie on her second question. |
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Annie - a big big thanks for taking the time and trouble to compile this list. I was busy and couldn't participate but you've covered everything I would have liked to ask and a lot more. Probably keeping the whole BF team busy and away from the bar but thats their problem :-) Once again many thanks.
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Thank you, akabula, I am pleased my effort has not gone unnoticed
. As I said before, I know most posters cannot type and to 'hunt and peck' a long list puts most posters off - so betfair never gets the full list of grumbles. |
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Thank you for your reply, betfair pr. I will reply to it but at the moment I am watching a film.
However, you can do something for me. I have asked repeatedly for betfair to say that I am a woman, to no avail. I have spoken several times over the years to supervisors of betfair who know me and know my card is registered to a woman as well. I just get fed up as being referred to as a 14 ton trucker. |