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Sky should let the handbrake off Chris Froome
Sky should let the handbrake off Chris Froome
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This Wiggins love-in is getting boring now. Contador would tear him a new one.
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contador is a cheat, nothing more to say really.
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Evans lived with Contador last year (and cycled away from him) but can't live with Wiggins this year. But "Contador would tear ..." .... discuss.
Perhaps the drugs didn't work or Evans is a lot worse? |
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Or it was the Giro and the crashes you cretin. You really don't know much about this sport do you?
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definitely agree clay davis although I wouldn't of been so brutal...the giro is a killer for sure in regards to having a good tdf and he lost minutes in the early crashes although how he picked himself in the latter mountain stage after being broken a day or 2 before was top draw...
people will say drugs i just think he is an exceptional bike rider... |
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harry callaghan - agreed. Sometimes you wonder if some of these guys watch the races
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people will say drugs i just think he is an exceptional bike rider...
 so he's currently serving a ban for taking drugs but u think he's just an exceptional rider???! erm... |
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He is one of the best riders I have ever seen. FACT
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what are you saying denis???
you think the cycling game is quite clean then in general?? |
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Just to answer your question Clay ..... enough to make a four figure profit for two years running on the Tour. "Cretin"?! Nice.
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HoD - cretin best describes your description of Contador is last season's Tour. Do you want to have another go?
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...oh yeah; and a Garmin 800 from Halfordstdfgame.co.uk
Aggressive replies to discussion points is just what this forum needs. What a model you are to us all. |
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that's quality HoD. With this year's profit's so far, I've ordered and FDJ Bigmat jersey (had to after Fedrigo today) and a wireless cadence computer. Defo going to get some more stuff for the bike as well but havent decided what yet
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Well silly and stupid replies - devoid of any fact - are just what this forum needs. What a model you are to us all. As I said, you can have another go at summing up last year's Tour.....
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Yeah - I bought a Canyon CF SLX haven't decided what to get from this year but did get some Dura Ace pedals last week. I've got FDJ bib which I wear with pride. Grown out of the ones I wore as a pro.
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Okay, I'll bite: Contador lost over 2 minutes to Voeckler (and 4 minutes to others) on Stage 18; well after he had recovered from first week crashes. The follwing day, he managed to cycle very fast up Alpe d'Huez. An indication of drug use is sudden spikes in form (a la Floyd Landis). Hard to explain Giro tiredness making that difference between St18 and 19?
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HoD - I can't discuss this with you when you are being economical with the truth.
So stage 18 - when Tour was on the line and still very much in contention - no drugs. Stage 19 - when Tour was lost - drugs. Do you want a serious discussion on this or are you going to continue with this nonsense? |
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That's why I said "hard to explain". My memory is failing but did he try and get away on Stage 18 and go into red and that is why he lost the time. I honestly can't remember but will go away and look it up.
At least agree that the difference in performance level between the two stages was unusual? |
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HoD - not unusual at all. He was on the back foot from word go, from what i can remember, on stage 18. He was hanging on until he got dropped late on.
On stage 19 he wasn't a threat anymore. He attacked early and got caught. And then attacked again at bottom of climb. Where Schleck/Evans didn't chase him down. If this was a Contador on song no one - and I mean no one - would have lived with him up alpe d'huez. But Rolland and Sanchez dropped him with 3k to go and he finished 3rd. You have different recollections of the 2 stages than I do. Stage 19 was like an act of defiance with all the pressure off. He still didn't look anywhere near his peak |
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Landis & Vinoukorov typical examples of cracking blowing up 1 day then riding like superman to solo victories the following day with the help of a bit of dope.
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Contador didn't win the following day. He was 3rd. If Contador was on dope it didn't work that well
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Can't believe that one of the apologists for banned riders reported my post!
Still, as far as I'm concerned all riders who use drugs' performances are tainted, not just the one in which they were caught. I think the same about all people banned for doping offences in all sports. There is simply no excuse for using - as far as I'm concerned the perpetrators shouldn't just be banned, they should be prosecuted. I'm talking in general, not in any specific case. The criminal definition of fraud (at least in English-speaking countries) is 'intentional deception for pecuniary gain'. Given that riders are required to sign affidavits that the are clean, it ought to be clear cut. |
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If this was a Contador on song no one - and I mean no one - would have lived with him up alpe d'huez.
u mean if this was a contador on drugs |
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Stupid statement
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Nobody had the handbrake on him today & he hardly looked the better climber did he?
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Nonsense. he didn't attack once. Just paced Wiggo back into the race.
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When Nibolli made his final effort Wiggins chased him and looked the stronger.
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It was Froomes job to chase Niboli & take Brad right up to his wheel. On the last attack as AT said he failed to do that Wiggins took it in his own hands with ease.
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with Brad being superior in ITT this time I doubt Froome would have been able to take enough time out of him gloves off this year.
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think a lot is being made of a few hundred metres of acceleration up a climb.
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Stop the race 20 seconds after Nibalis 3 bursts today & he looks head & shoulders above the sky 2.
However the reality is hes no better climber he just has the ability to accelerate sharply uphill for short periods of time whilst the others close in whilst hes recovering. |
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i think this tedious thread can now be put to sleep and not before time.
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Sir Denis, I missed the stage. Did Wiggo drop Froome in the mountains today?
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didnt drop him but Nibalis last attack Froome couldnt respond & indicated to Wiggins to go & chase which he did all came back together ' the top of the Peyrousourde
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i really hoped this thread would die a well-deserved death but there's always one more idiotic comment!! why the hell would wiggo want to drop froome??!
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geoff - nonsense
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aaah Clay - hi there!! will u be tipping Froome to win the sprint on the champs elysses??
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Sir Denis, the way you said thread over I assumed something dramatic had happened today. I saw that one of the times Nibali tried to get away, Wiggo did the work for a change and Froome took his wheel for a short while. Was there some other incident that I missed?
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absolute rubbish...the stage wasn't taxing in anyway today...froome dragged wiggins back twice...the stage might have been different had there been pace on from the start of the stage...but because of this it was easy for wiggins
sir denis i don't think you have said anything of any interest on any of the cycling threads, your knowledge defies me |
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does that make sense to anyone else?? ^^^^^
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