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By:
Ernesto
When: 04 Jan 10 01:30
Hope Coyle works out for you Mighty Whites. I'm assuming he has been guaranteed more funds at Bolton than were on offer at Celtic in the summer...

And thank you for your sagacity gents. Very welcome as always. I've learned about the lucrative nature of hoovering iin the early days of the market. Unless there is a Tony Adams/Portsmouth shoo-in scenariothose early hours/days can be where you can make most cash.

Talking of which I've been having a few thoughts regarding Burnley. Steve Davis from within the club seems to be attracting attention from within Burnley. A Sbragia style appointment perhaps? I've also noticed that Mark Hughes might be in a compensation tussle with Citeh. A good early lay perhaps along with Peter Reid who only seemed to be mentioned here because of his Bolton links. Maybe worth considering a Scottish option too remembering where Coyle (St Johnstone) came from. Maybe some decent early prices on John Hughes?

Burnley are also reckoned to be skint so a hefty compensation payment to another English club may not be an option as the OC payment may be needed for players.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 04 Jan 10 08:25
I thought Burnley were the ones with pots of cash but hugely reluctant to spend it? I may be wrong.

I would not oppose Curbs for a single cent. He would agree to manage Helmand Province if they found themselves in the Premier League. Mind you, they are based in the south
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 04 Jan 10 09:02
Burnley aren't skint, they just refuse to use leverage. In fact, they don't even have an overdraft. A misguided approach in my humble opinion.
By:
Ernesto
When: 04 Jan 10 09:35
Burnley might not be in debt but that doesn't mean they have loads of cash. Apparently they can't afford to sign Nugent because of the cost of his wages, so can only keep him on loan. They have a salary cap of £15k per week and a buget of £5M to spend in January.

Their other issue is the lack of a sugar daddy to stick a bit of cash in when they need it. Bolton have this in Eddie Davies but Brendon Flood the Bolton chair saw his property company go down earlier in the year.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 04 Jan 10 11:24
Burnley are a very wise and well run club then. £3m from Bolton may be very nice for them, if that is the figure, particularly with a proven relegation-avoider queueing up for a job
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 04 Jan 10 11:41
I guess it depends on the definition of skint. Not having loads of cash isn't skint in my opinion. I think they're tight rather than skint. If they refuse to pay high wages and have no debt repayments then I'm sure they'll be doing ok with their Premier League revenue.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 04 Jan 10 12:13
It is looking as if a bit of a move on this market may be appropriate very soon.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 04 Jan 10 14:07
Looks like the end game, and I'm surprised he's as long as 1.2 tbh. Not that I would ever back at those prices
By:
Ernesto
When: 04 Jan 10 14:21
Official statement on the Burnley website

Club Statement: Owen Coyle
Posted on: Mon 04 Jan 2010

Burnley Football Club can now confirm that manager Owen Coyle has held discussions with Bolton Wanderers FC over the vacant manager's position at the Reebok Stadium.

Burnley Football Club chairman Barry Kilby will now meet with Coyle to discuss his future at Turf Moor.

This will take place following Coyle's return from Scotland tonight (Monday).

Burnley Football Club will not make any further comment at this time.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 04 Jan 10 14:36
Just a reminder as to why we have a fred here:




cammy glasgow 04 Jan 15:29
just back in there from shopping and cant believe theres still free money @ 1.18 ????????????????????????????????/ this is gonna be a year to remeber i can tell you that wata start to 2010...........






It is quite calm and collected here and good.
By:
Ernesto
When: 04 Jan 10 15:16
mini Drift?

£2100 available at 1.21
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 04 Jan 10 15:27
Silly money. imo

I am picking up more.
By:
Ernesto
When: 04 Jan 10 15:58
Still silly? 1.28 up
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 04 Jan 10 16:01
I think so.
By:
cgull
When: 04 Jan 10 17:50
Compo agreed yet 1.23? SSN not to be trusted entirely of course but....
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 04 Jan 10 17:54
Yep, was a little odd but I went in. A (hopefully) easy £50 win. 1.06 now.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 04 Jan 10 18:28
The Kitten 04 Jan 19:18


A stunning lay at these odds IMHO.

was 1.2 when this post was made. Where do betfair find them. I know people dislike the premium charge but if they spend it finding jokers like this then at least its not a complete waste of time
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 04 Jan 10 18:32
I've been in and out and in and out in the last 43 mins.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 04 Jan 10 18:35
temp im not saying it isnt worth trading but a straight out lay is just chucking money away.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 04 Jan 10 18:36
Sorry, I completely misread your post.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 04 Jan 10 18:39
surely backing burnley to go down is worth a punt.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 04 Jan 10 21:08
My guess would be

Coyle 'I want to go'
Chairman 'We'll offer you this to stay. Say you'll give it 24 hours to think it over'

It's a bit like persuading your wife not to leave ;-)
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 04 Jan 10 21:46
i thought something very similar george
By:
monkey nuts
When: 04 Jan 10 22:03
alex..............can you give me your thoughts on this latest developments??
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 05 Jan 10 08:11
I think that they will agree a figure and Coyle will be appointed.
By:
cgull
When: 05 Jan 10 08:31
A "cooling off" period, if you will.
By:
Ernesto
When: 05 Jan 10 11:58
I'm assuming Coyle will resign if Bolton won't pay the compo.

Presumably there'll be no enforeable gardening leave either.

Think another drift will be due after the 1pm sports news.
By:
sick of food
When: 05 Jan 10 12:23
So is this hold tight time on Coyle chaps? Or is there more to this drift than a compensation issue?
By:
Ernesto
When: 05 Jan 10 12:24
1 o'clock SSN passes. 1.28 moves to 1.6.

Didn't take a lot to do so though. I reckon there are a large number of people who have got on sub 1.3 and are currently cacking it. It won't take a lot for them to want to get there cash out.

Curbs is of course an interesting diversion as all along he was said to be down for an interview today. Is this the reason for the delay?
By:
sick of food
When: 05 Jan 10 12:28
I guess there's the answer!
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 05 Jan 10 14:05
I went out to lunch and see it back at 1.05-1.06 with just the comp figure to be agreed. Did it really go out to 1.6?
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 05 Jan 10 14:07
£0 matched on Spalletti, Advocaat & Hitzfeld I see.
By:
sick of food
When: 05 Jan 10 14:09
Yes Alex 1.6 was about as far as it went, pretty quickly from about 1pm till Burnley put their statement out. Guess Coyle was seen at Burnley and people started to panic?
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 05 Jan 10 14:14
it went out to 1.5 - 1.6 and the layers were rejocing saying he had turned it down then boom was thousands at 1.09 moments later sky broke the news
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 05 Jan 10 14:19
LOL.


It is lucky I went to lunch otherwise I might have panicked. :)
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 06 Jan 10 19:42
http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=58783&st=600




It could be rubbish but worth knowing it is there.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 06 Jan 10 19:48
I just think burnley have been very naive here hayemaker. Why they gave Coyle permission to speak before agreeing set compensation is beyond me. Now they have put him on gardening leave Bolton are obviously playing hardball over the compensation. With Saturdays game likely to be postponed there isnt any great rush.

The 14 day delay is possible as Bolton think the compensation is a million and burnley 3.6 million. 14 days would take us past the Boltpon Burnley match which will be an interesting affair
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 06 Jan 10 19:56
this market is like the gift which keeps on giving
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 07 Jan 10 10:11
It is tricky to know whether to put this on the Bolton fred or the Burnely fred so I will do both:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/4837929.Burnley_chiefs_hope_Davis_will_stay/


Burnley chiefs hope Davis will stay
10:40am Thursday 7th January 2010


BURNLEY are hoping club legend Steve Davis will stay at Turf Moor, and not follow Owen Coyle to Bolton.

It is understood the wantaway Clarets boss, who has been placed on gardening leave until a compensation deal has been thrashed out with the Trotters, has enquired about first team coach Davis joining him once his move is finalised.

Davis, and goalkeeping coach Phil Hughes, have been placed in charge of first team matters ahead of Saturdays visit of Stoke. And Burnley hope the former captain, who made almost 400 appearances over three spells, will not be tempted away.

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