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By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 30 Dec 09 10:29
Let the fun commence sil vous plait.

I'm backing Beenhakker again. I presume he will get a job sometime
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 10:39
I would like to discuss our irish friend when you are ready Mr Brush
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 30 Dec 09 10:48
Staunton? I think that would make Bolton fans a bit happier
By:
Ernesto
When: 30 Dec 09 11:43
Happy Christmas Gents

My early thoughts are a northener but someone with experience too. Taking over now is a very different challenge from taking over at the start of the season.

Relegation would be catastrophic and they can't take a chance with someone like Ferguson.

Significant former players are Owen Coyle and Peter Reid.

I'd love to see the new rules tested too though and the new man have 9 games in charge. :D
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 30 Dec 09 12:12
Looking at the Bolton forums, it appears only Mark Hughes is acceptable to them. No support for Jewell, Southgate or Reid. They'd like Coyle but think it's unlikely he'd leave Burnley for them.

Curbishley and Coppell don't seem to be too disliked but, at the same time, no real support for them.

I expect if Mark Hughes wants it then it's his.

Jewell was at the game last night but was sat next to Moyes and Martinez and probably just a coincidence. After the uproar over the manner of the Mancini appointment then I'm sure Bolton wouldn't have their next manager at the game.
By:
Ernesto
When: 30 Dec 09 12:23
I suspect Megson's comments after the game hastened his departure. Not the most politically astute observation to make for someone wanting to hold onto his job.

Long shot maybe - John Sheridan. Highly respected former playing currently doing an excellent job at Chesterfield.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 13:14
I am slow of the mark but I see that you lot and the bookies have not been.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/bolton-specials/next-permanent-manager

Just sussing out what to do.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 13:22
Who on earth writes this garbage? Must be a regular on the footie forum:

http://bettingchoice.co.uk/next-bolton-manager-betting-odds-mark-hughes-and-paul-jewell-in-frame_18811


Bolton fans finally got their wish as Gary Megson and his underwhelming series of performances have now finally left the Reebok. The team really has nowheres to go but up at the moment and whoever is taking over needs to gear themselves up for a relegation dogfight of the first order. Bolton are an established Premiership side and it will be a serious blow to their small, but extremely dedicated, cadre of fans should they drop down through the Premier League's trap door.

The betting markets have heated up already and punters everywhere are clamoring to get their bets in on the next Bolton manager. If you act now, there is a massive amount of value available should you be able to select the next Bolton manager.


As it currently stands, former Wigan favourite Paul Jewell is emerging as the favourite with recently-sacked Mark Hughes nipping at his heels. As funny an image as that sounds, it really looks to be a two-horse race at the moment although Alan Curbishly and Darren Ferguson are also trading at relatively low-prices.

You'll find Jewell and Hughes trading below 7.0 and around 6.5 or 6.0. The odds are really fluctuating hard at the moment and Jewell has been spotted below 6.0 at times. Curbishly trades at 8.5 to 9.0, while Ferguson is listed at 8.0 to 8.5.

I would advise you not to discount Peter Reid, who seems to be gaining a bit of steam and you'll find him below 7.0. Owen Coyle also trades at 16.0. Gareth Southgate is listed at 21.0.

Personally, I think very little information has come out about who is in frame. Once that happens, and a credible source backs a solid contender, then the odds will start dropping significantly. The time is now to bet on the next Bolton manager!
By:
Ernesto
When: 30 Dec 09 13:29
I'm going to be limited in my posting ability in the next few days so I'll put a few thoughts up.

Like Middlesbrough Bolton have been affected by the falling crowds. Gartside has gone down the "safe" and experimental road recently with Megson and Sammy Lee, both of whom were failures.

I think he has to go for a bit of glamour here but somone with experience. I can see the fans liking Coyle and Hughes but very few of the others on the list. If he sacked Megson partly due to his comments about the fans then surely the next appointment will be one which will firmly get them back onside. On that basis Reid and Jewell are firm lays at current prices. After all would Reid be a candidate if he was still manager of Thailand.

They have to stay up but they have a better chance of doing that with the fans onside.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 13:45
I will miss you Ernesto and I am unable to disagree with anything you have said. I figured Dowie would not fit the bill as a fans favorite so I have had all of him that was there.

Having seen the infamous Sunderland/Reid fly on the wall documentary it totally beats me on how Reid has ever been employed. But it would be irrational to swoop based on that.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 13:48
& somebody likes Coyle which is a shame as I am red on him.

But hang on Skybet have gone shortest and I am slacking as I don't have SSN on.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 14:02
We have a temp manager as taking 10 games he will be deemed permanent on the rules on this market. I asked betfair if they would leave the market suspended or reopen in the event of a caretaker manager which could be important at a later date.

They ducked the question.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 14:05
And I am thinking that Jewell is the one that I don't want to be laying.
By:
Ernesto
When: 30 Dec 09 14:07
Coyle plays the integrity card Alex. He's be a busted flush if he walked out for a job down the road. I suspect he has his eyes on a bigger prize than Bolton. I can't see that walking out now into a bottom three club would do his career any favours.

Any Bolton legend like Coyle is going to attract money. I would expect John Sheridan to attract cash too when he arrives on the market.
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 14:13
Keep an eye on Jewell. Just off to the footie forum to see why he is being backed. Tis an arb now as you will see.
By:
Ernesto
When: 30 Dec 09 14:16
Just noticed the high st prices too. He was at the game last night sat with Moyes and Martinez. That would be too crass given recent events to have your next manager appear before the current one has been sacked. Hughes at least already know he was out.

Look at the thread called info while you're there ;)
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 14:34
theweeman 30 Dec 14:35
I live in bolton, and am an estate agent

Gary speed has just walked in asking to view our properies

you think he could be in line for the bolton job????????




:) Classic. I hope we get some Prawn sandwiches on the Bolton Express freds too. LOL
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 14:39
We have a **g £1.99 merchant on this market!
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 14:40
A crazy one too. Way off the pace.
By:
ShowMeGreeen
When: 30 Dec 09 15:05
David O Leary!
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 16:02
ShowMeGreeen 30 Dec 16:05
David O Leary!





Oi!!! This is a fred for sensible people. It does what it says on the tin.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 30 Dec 09 16:33
Coyle has apparently ruled himself out of the running although the report doesn't say what has happened for them to say this:

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/4825598.Owen_Coyle__rules_himself_out_of_the_running_/
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 30 Dec 09 17:16
Re. The list of 'world class applicants' that pops up for every job at the moment.

I think that Fartside is exactly the sort of cretinous short termist to be tempted by such glamour, now that playing safe has failed.

Expect an octogenarian Italian or suchlike. At least one of a host of names not seen here
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 30 Dec 09 17:26
Keith Hill? I think Solsbury Hill should be similar odds
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 23:30

GeorgeBrush 30 Dec 18:26
Keith Hill? I think Solsbury Hill should be similar odds




Indeed. And I expect that you got matched at 20.07. I just looked and that was me with fat fingers. So expect some Hill ramping as I am the wrong side of him now.


We can all admit to fat fingers from time to time can we not? :|
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 23:34
ShowMeGreeen 30 Dec 16:05
David O Leary!

Oi!!! This is a fred for sensible people. It does what it says on the tin.



I seem to have chased Showmegreen off for the moment. ;
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 30 Dec 09 23:38
Looking at the money I reckon that somebody thinks that Dowie is up for this. I have laid as much as I want but watch that price. There could be more.
By:
owl4life
When: 31 Dec 09 01:28
brian laws
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 31 Dec 09 08:42
Looks as if Jewell is coming back out to a more realistic price. I expect his price went so low owing to him being at the match. I took advantage of that but not as much as I should have done.

I expect this will be a fan-pleasing appointment, which should rule out Peter Reid. I don't think Hughes will take it (I wouldn't rule out him taking a job abroad a la Steve McClaren rather than take on another small club a la Sam Allardyce).

Coppell and Curbishley would be accepted by the fans but Coppell's an odd 'un at times and even though Curbishley has said he'd go north, there's always doubt he will.

Wide open at this stage, I don't think anybody has a clue.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Dec 09 08:43
Just waiting for the article on 1000 world class applicants before adding my list starting with Adriaase and ending with Zoff
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Dec 09 08:44
Curbishley would go anywhere for a sniff of a job, nap
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 31 Dec 09 09:01
The papers seem to be guessing this morning but the Telegraph is the most positive that I have noticed:


Bolton keen on Owen Coyle or Darren Ferguson to take over from Gary Megson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/bolton/6912452/Bolton-keen-on-Owen-Coyle-or-Darren-Ferguson-to-take-over-from-Gary-Megson.html
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 31 Dec 09 09:15
Peter Reid until the end of the season and Coyle to take over in the summer is plausible.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Dec 09 15:34
Please someone add George Graham. Otherwise I may spoil my record of laying him on every manager market since 1987
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Dec 09 16:50
Tony Adams has been offered it, but has turned it down
By:
awful_punter
When: 31 Dec 09 19:47
This job is surely tailor-made for Alan Curbishley. Safe and experienced, the only drawback is his boring football style. Perhaps they want to break from that style of football? I've had a nibble @ 17.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 31 Dec 09 20:17
Tailor made for everyone on the list though innit.

Hughes excepted, they are all equally desperate. I'd be thoroughly depressed if I were a Bolton fan.

Mind you, I suppose that comes with the territory anyway
By:
Alex the old wrinkled retainer
When: 31 Dec 09 22:24
Warnock. Don't take your eye off the ball.

Happy new year manager punters.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 01 Jan 10 07:26
Curbs to be interviewed according to the telegraph
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