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Ozymandius
When: 14 Apr 15 17:33
Can't be having any of that high falutin' organic nonsense though.  Proven to have no extra minerals or vitamins or other health benefits.  Taste difference negligible if any.
By:
frank60
When: 14 Apr 15 17:43
Might i suggest  Paul Gautschi's  Back to Eden gardening on You tube Ozy, ; Paul can be a little over the top with the God bit, but a clever man when it comes to  organic gardening.
By:
dj876
When: 14 Apr 15 18:14
There are a few alarming discrepancies/anomalies in Kelly's posts which would cast some doubts in my mind as to the veracity of his trading. He consistently speaks of risk free trading/guaranteed profit which is an outright lie (anomaly),the only type of trading that is 100% risk free is simultaneous arbitrage which because of its nature is extremely transient. (You can't lose,you can't continue).

All other types of one dimensional trading are far from risk free,there is massive risk attached to attempting to predict price movements and can only be achieved successfully in the long term if you have an edge on the market. From what I have seen of Kelly's posts on racing,his knowledge wouldn't be anywhere near sharp enough to consistently beat the market. His complaints about Upazo's run at Gowran over 2m 4f in heavy ground smack of lazyness when Upazo has never won over further than 18 furlongs and on good to yielding.

Anyone  trading on single securities or one dimensional platforms ie sportstrading has to have a strategy which has a bit more sophisticated than buy low sell high. Dismissing trading software because it's as easy to manually trade is extremely naive and conveys a lack of knowledge in the strategies available.
Most punters should be able to price a screen/board to its exact o/r in a couple of seconds. As for believing an article about JP from the Limerick leader,if you believe it was JP's mathematical brain that set him apart,you may as well believe in Santa.

It really is a stretch to believe that you punted Tiger in 5 figure sums and laid it back on here and that is why you haven't incurred the premium charge 8 years later but now punt in tiny sums despite not suffering a reversal  . There were plenty of times you done this where you would have made a massive profit on the exchange (if this is true).
Also you can't just transfer profits from one exchange to another without again being able to beat the market as you're as likely to incur profits on the unintended exchange over a large sample size.
By:
Kelly
When: 14 Apr 15 18:28
Nothing I would post would satisfy you dj , we know that from previous . Sorry I am not as sharp an observer of racing as you think I might need to be . I would back JP to put you away any time dj .

Re premium charge , Tiger won 3 in a row at 3/1 approx .  Check it out . That was not the only loser on here .

Some people on here do have active brains other than you dj .

Cant figure out your last sentence , can you put it in plain english .
By:
Kelly
When: 14 Apr 15 19:41
PS dj , very few people , least of all myself would have been able to get over 10 grand on Tiger ( 5 figures is plus £10 k is it not ? ) . Putting  spurious figures in peoples mouths !

I am sure most of the people who trade / arb on here will be relieved to learn that the term arb cannot be applied to betting transactions such as happen here daily . Must tell that to the bookies who shut down accounts because they are convinced their customer is an arber .

Most arbers lose I suspect , for the simple reason that they are in the business of "following the money" . Following the money has always been a way of life for certain punters .  In my experience money for a horse with decent form is the best guidances if you are a pure punter .
By:
mrcombustible
When: 14 Apr 15 19:52
I think the restaurant you refer to is Langans next to Green Park started by Irishman Peter Langan
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Apr 15 20:50
Sometimes this forum can be depressing.

I know Ozymandius knowledge is just google knowledge but you would expect him to follow relatively easy lines.

His thinking a quote from John Betjeman is an advertising jingle is Rocketfingers like in more ways than one.
It shows what era these two gentlemen are from.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 14 Apr 15 22:34
If i am not taking any offence in the slightest to Ozy comments how the hell is Kelly? Confused
By:
Kelly
When: 14 Apr 15 22:41
Checked that out mrcombustible , thats the one . Didn't know it was an Irish guy who was the owner ( along with Caine initially) until I looked it up a few minutes ago .  Might have known there was an Irishman involved , the atmosphere was great .  We Irish do hospitality well , the best parties apparently in the early days of the EEC were in the Irish contingents pad . Accounted for a lot of "concessions " we got too from what I heard .

Dont think Angela would be big into parties though .
By:
Ozymandius
When: 14 Apr 15 22:46
He isn't, I think he's chuffed. 

It's just Borneo's faux outrage designed to try and help mend his well-established racist image on here.  Too late for that, me thinks.  Sort of like an elephant trying to hide behind a palm tree.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 14 Apr 15 22:51
It was actually pathetic what went on in Brussels, Kelly, perhaps it still does.  I was at a soiree thrown by a prominent Irish MEP one evening and I couldn't believe the carry on.  As you say, it proved effective at the time.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Apr 15 23:10
I'm not outraged by your stereotyping of Jews,I'm not even surprised I'm just showing up your hypocrisy.

You scour post after post here looking for some new word that may cause your precious mind offence,you are the self appointed arbiter of whats right and wrong here yet you come up with stereotype after stereotype.

You are unaware of this hypocrisy because you are incapable of rational thought,you think in sound bites.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 14 Apr 15 23:13
Its rather rich to be accused of being incapable of rational thought by a man who cannot discern between a deduction and a fact.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Apr 15 23:30
Most of my deductions turn out to be facts,tis that annoys ye.

Tis you that can't differentiate between the two,you constantly demand explanations when none are necessary,you can't follow context which is why you want me to post in my opinion when its self evident.
Your latest will be probably print FACT after a statement.

You preach tolerance and diversity but only one view is allowed.
Your complete inability to tolerate a differing opinion is now so extreme you demand the differing opinion be outlawed.

The Turkish Prime Minister is a man after your heart,he recently called for Islamophobia to be a crime against humanity.
I think Islam should be a crime against humanity.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 14 Apr 15 23:52
Most of my deductions turn out to be facts

Au contraire, they tend to project both your wishes and your stubborn bias. And fall staggeringly wide of the truth/target.

The fact that you assert them so defiantly and present them as established fact shines a bright light on your foolishness. 

A hubristic man who without hesitation or shame presents his conjecture as fact is not a man to be trusted or relied upon. Nor can he be considered a man of rigorous intellect.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 14 Apr 15 23:57
we know you are very rigorus when it comes to talking shoite yourself NOW NORMA CALM DOWNLaugh
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