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punchestown
27 Dec 12 19:18
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Great card is an understatement,going for Hidden Cyclone e/w  to turn around course form with SDC when reported sick,like to think he has a chance of having a decent cut off Flemenstar over the trip which will bring the needed improvement.


Big day for Mount Benbulben as well and his jumping will be put to the test against a couple of hot pots.

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workrider
When: 27 Dec 12 19:33
massive crowd there today ...tomorrow is the best card so far this leop ....a smashing 3ml nov plenty in with chances imo....after the way she won this last year i'm half tempted to give vlv another chance...can see midnight chase taking on flemenstar , this could set it up for one of the finishers ...it just might set it up for tidal or sdc ...if they go hammer and tongs , i honestly cant see flemenstar lasting it out ...
By:
topfarrier
When: 27 Dec 12 19:40
Flemenstar won't make the running early workrider, he is only ridden like that over the shorter trip........will be a better horse over three miles imo.
By:
workrider
When: 27 Dec 12 19:44
ok topfarier , i know he likes to bowl along in front , tomorrow he face his stiffest task yet ....he'll need to get every yard of it as well ....i 'm just not sure he'll get home...what makes you think he 'll be better over this trip...i'm interested why ...off out soon so will continue when i get home around 10...
By:
koikeeper
When: 27 Dec 12 19:46
DEDIGOUT now stepped up to 3m, should take some stopping imo.
By:
malibu
When: 27 Dec 12 20:22
Best Lexus in years and the novice chase is top drawer too. Went for Monksland, Tofino Bay and First L in the big one.
By:
huddys
When: 27 Dec 12 21:27
One horse il be keeping a close eye is foxrock in the 1st race,for a shrewd combo of trainer and owner,if there is a few quid for this will be very interesting,
By:
keen leader
When: 27 Dec 12 22:20
outside looking in, it is 2-0 to the punters at leopardstown. the odds on players have to date enjoyed a feast. i think day 3 will see the fav layers reel it all back with profit.

i had good word for foxrock when it was due to point last spring, missed the engagement and done enough without sparkling at loughrea. i dont rate it good enough to win the opener, shocked it can be laid less than 2/1 here, ought to be a 5/1 shot all day long, probably the feel good factor from colbert station kicking in. the sizing horse was far more impressive, won without blowing a candle earlier this month. with him thunder and roses plus elliotts and moores in the mix, not alone should foxrock be win laid, place lay return also a player.

zaidpour doesnt appear to like the track and could beat himself, while back in focus is my idea of a coaster, great when allowed to do his own thing, not a shred of evidence he will battle under pressure, and unless they all fall around him, he will be tested here.

betting at limerick is a joke given conditions. the bumper tomorrow contains 7 donkeys and a racehorse, again a bit like malt gem, unless you have you ear to the ground, you would not realise that prideofthecastle was a player. he is decent, whether he copes with the ground is guesswork, 100% he is the most talented in that race, damien needs one more winner to lose his 5lb claim after all these years, hope it works out for him here.

3 star lay back in focus
2 star lay foxrock
1 star lay zaidpour.
By:
slickster
When: 27 Dec 12 22:24
Wonky claims there was a massive crowd there today!!!! There was not!!! Clueless fool wouldn't know what a massive crowd was. Give it up wonky. How did your Countrywide Flame get on yesterday by the way?
By:
workrider
When: 27 Dec 12 22:32
WERE I WAS mate , their was , our box was packed ....it took over an hour to get out to the m50...no police to allow the main car park flow , cars backed up to near the tennis courts ...doubt you were anywere near it today mate....
By:
huddys
When: 27 Dec 12 22:39
You have put a spanner in my view of foxrock keenleader,but as i say il watch the market closely tomorrow,nice write up keenleader.
By:
moneypenny
When: 27 Dec 12 22:39
Heading up tomoro WR. Whats the weather like up there. Could be a wild day if the forecast is to be believed
By:
workrider
When: 27 Dec 12 22:43
money ,  starting to spit rain now plus he wind seems to be getting up , hopefully it'll pass quickly....
By:
moneypenny
When: 27 Dec 12 22:46
Cheers WR- Its a fantastic looking card tomoro , just hope its not ruined by the elements.
By:
workrider
When: 27 Dec 12 22:52
it would be a shame if it did ....good luck tomorrow , i'm off to bed...
By:
Allduckornodinner
When: 27 Dec 12 23:08
Cronins horse is bred to handle the conditions as well as any of them but it'll all be academic anyway as they can't race tomoro if they have a cell in their brains. I was being called waterlogged today and there has been significant rain this evening and tonight to boot.

Agreed re. Foxrock. It would go against all known betting principles for a horse making his racecourse debut to be that short in a Leopardstown maiden hurdle given the quite reasonable depth in competition. It is probably a harsh enough assessment of Zaidpour to say he doesn't go at the track given the only two horses to beat him there were Oscars Wells and First Lietenant. This staying hurdle crack in Ireland should suit him given they'll lob away and he can quicken out of heavy ground. It's his true vocation. It'll be interesting to see what Murphy has to say about VLV. Given she seemingly made a noise in the Hattons Grace the only procedure they could have done to get her back this quickly is the laser which is really a stop gap measure. Monksland is improving but Zaidpour has it in the book.

At the start of the week Back in Focus looked a bet to me at 7/4 but everything has stood their ground and it is a very competitive heat. I still think he's the most likely winner but there will definitely be races run in the next few days where you can back similarly priced horses without facing as many possible dangers.

I said it before the Durkan and nothing that happened then changed my mind. Come March SDC will be Irelands best Gold Cup contender. I cannot believe that a horse that races as hard as Flemenstar can keep it up over that trip. SDC on the other hand will go round there for the first circuit on a loose rein. It is a quite fantastic card.
By:
workrider
When: 28 Dec 12 10:56
the more i look at this race the more flemenstar looks a lay ....i think he has it all to do ...this is one of the best fields ever for this race .. been unsure if he'll stay etc , at the odds i'm a layer....
By:
workrider
When: 28 Dec 12 10:58
just layed it @ 2.84....i've nailed my colours to the mast  ....
By:
BJG
When: 28 Dec 12 11:04
Foxrock is a quite astonishing price now at around 2.4!
By:
Allduckornodinner
When: 28 Dec 12 11:23
Thunder and Roses to place is now the same as price as Foxrock to win. I know which one i'd rather be on looking at it before the race.
By:
huddys
When: 28 Dec 12 11:38
Hope i dont have egg on my chin but backed foxrock earlier at 13/8
By:
norn iron
When: 28 Dec 12 12:23
APACHE JACK MASIVE PRICE BEAT BOTH MALA BEACH HURDLES  AND THUNDER  N ROSES IN BUMPER

EW KILMAIHAM

MONKSLAND  NB

SUPREME CAROLINA

DEDIGOUT NAP

SIR DES CHAMPS (CANT SEE FAV GETTING THE DISTANCE WITH COUPLE FRONT RUNNERS )EW SAVER FIRST LIETENTANT
By:
kavvie
When: 28 Dec 12 12:26
that didnt last long!!
By:
workrider
When: 28 Dec 12 12:27
layed it for small money ...out of it after the first....
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 28 Dec 12 12:27
Was never traveling
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 28 Dec 12 12:27
Ruby hadn't much hope of staying on, was cannoned into on both sides.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 28 Dec 12 12:32
Nice start to the day Cool

Naughty Davy btw
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 28 Dec 12 12:33
Not sure what Davy Condon was doing trying to go up the inside of the loose horse there to be honest, caused his own problems.
By:
workrider
When: 28 Dec 12 12:33
wtf was condon doing going up the inside ...pure madness....
By:
punchestown
When: 28 Dec 12 12:37
Well done Foxrock layers,didn't have to wait long to collect,Condon the architect of his own misfortune alright.
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 28 Dec 12 12:56
Backed Doc Hollywood here.

In the big one I've gone for Tidal Bay. I love Flemenstar but see SDC as the bigger danger today. Will do Tiday e/w and RFC with SDC.
By:
tony57
When: 28 Dec 12 13:31
great write ups and chat lads..im on sdc...like most i think flem wont get the trip...but looking forward to it....
By:
punchestown
When: 28 Dec 12 13:35
2 lays up for Keen Leader so far,well done,I think Monksland is a fav of norns Cool
By:
norn iron
When: 28 Dec 12 13:38
PUNCH  MONKSLAND Love WELL DONE KEEN LEADER
By:
punchestown
When: 28 Dec 12 14:36
Mount Benbulben Sad,and my saver was AupcharlieCry
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 28 Dec 12 14:36
Back in Focus a brave winner under an inspired Ruby.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 28 Dec 12 14:37
Jockeys don't matter, eh?

Ruby is something else.
By:
workrider
When: 28 Dec 12 14:40
hard luck punchestown , looked all over , peck after the last done him....benbulben i cant understand why they dont let this fellow lead...he'll hit most of them , but i'm sure he's a much better horse from the front ..maybe one day they'll listen to me....
By:
punchestown
When: 28 Dec 12 14:44
workrider,it was a shame as he was jumping better than ever just before he belted that one and I thought he'd settled well in behind the leaders and no real sign of pulling the way he normally does,the stirrup got caught under the jockey which sealed his fate.
By:
Vubiant
When: 28 Dec 12 14:46
Doesn't really matter who rides 'em.
Andrew Lynch did exactly the same as Ruby -but horse had a sketchy jump at the last and Back In Focus is a doughty stayer who gallantly answered the call. Lynch was not 'outridden' by Walsh - Aupcharlie was outstayed by BIF.
Note Mr Sam Waley-Cohen (amateur jockey) who got back up on Long Run after that horse had a few untidy jumps near the end.
It's because Waley-Cohen did exactly the same as any professional jockey would do and Long Run's stamina did the rest.
Examples of same available about 300 days a year to those who open their eyes and look at the evidence.
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