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Cheltenham 2012 - Ante post portfolio
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Was xpectin to see Wishfull Thinkin
 Pricewise 100% imoPady a fair shout at the price |
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BJG
Hard to know what way Hobbs is going to go but personally I think WT might yet run in the Ryanair which could turn out to be a cracking race. Don't think Mr Segal will be copying me on this one somehow.  |
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If Tom was going to put this up he can't do it now or his secret will be out!
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Pady due to run the Tingle on Saturday, 50's big if he runs up to scratch there, and should get his ground on Saturday as well, good Ew bet for both races.
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Pady running in the VC Chase you mean? Thought 50's was massive myself and has the course form. Could run well on Saturday. Surprised Captain Chris isn't going for the CC tho, he'd mop up in my opinion.
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GUYS ON ANOTHER THREAD CONCERNING THIS RACE PEOPLE ARE OF THE OPINION THAT 1/4 1st 3 APPLIES NO MATTER HOW MANY GO TO POST ie:LESS THAN 8 REGARDING A/P BETS. UNLESS IM AS THICK AS I LOOK I WAS ALWAYS OF THE OPINION THAT FINAL no OF RUNNERS DECIDED THE EW TERMS.YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH ME AND IM NOT OFTEN RIGHT BUT AM 100% CERTAIN. COM2 OR CMIUC I THINK OLD BEAN IS A BOOKIE DO USE NO ANY OTHERS ON HERE
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Dec, ante post is 1/4 1st 3 regardless of how many runners turn up on the day.If you backed it now and only 3 turned up on the day your ante post bet will be paid out at 1/4 1st 3.By betting now you are taking the chance that the horse will run, and if a firm is NRNB all the better if you can narrow downthe field to only a few runners turning up like one of the early posters has.
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The early poster being Monte Christo, and i am talking about the QM Champion Chase in particular in which he has said of the 19 entries plenty may run elsewhere. Which does make Pady a great shout at 50's especially if it runs well this weekend and already having Festival form.
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1/4 1st 3 applies no matter how many go to post Dec
U back a horse e.g Big Zeb ew for the CC now 1/4 1,2,3 Even if only 5 turn up on the day u still have 1/4 1,2,3 |
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You should check the small print, some bookies have been known to try renege on e/w terms antepost when races cut up
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Never had that problem myself tbh so shall nt comment
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Scotsirish 7-2, VC Bet. X Country. Really looks a penalty kick on his running behind Big Zeb at Xmas.
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WILL IT BE RIDDEN BY MR.PATDICK MULLINS
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The only purpose the X Country race serves in my eyes is that it gives you a nice window of time to go to the toilet or head to the bar and have a beer
  Any odds on if all the jocks go the right course? |
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thanks for info A/P TERMS rang a few firms here in the north and they confirmed REGARDING A/P BETS. IM AS THICK AS I LOOK
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Lads, Spotthedifference and Bolgers other yoke, always kept the Irish from being annialated on the first day. Always gets slagged off this race, I love it, this fellow will dot up too.
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Ive been backing 2 or 3 horses in the Championship races since june last year and im very happy with them BUT although i can see why many people arent keen on the XC chase i take the opposite view. Its been a very good race to me over the years and is imo the easiest race to win with very little strength in depth and often pretty poor oppostion.Thres very few real shocks in the race.
When i knew SCOTSIRISH was going down this road i have to say he more or less straight away became my banker of the frestival and i believe him to be on a totally different level to the field this year.After hacking up in Ire on XC debut i had a good bet at 5-2 on himat Chelt in Dec when after going off at 11-8 got taken onto the wrong track. He was about to hack up and although i lost my cash then ,im even more confidant he ll do the business come march if he gets there fit and well - touch wood.Ive taken all the 4-1 when the bookies went up and see him being plunged on.My only real concern was would he stay but 3/4 of this race is run as a hack round. His performance at Aintree last april was classy under a huge weight and his excellent run behind Big Zeb in Dec is many, many pounds better then anything else on offer. A solid jumper SCOTSIRISH remains a big price and my banker of the festival by some way...good luck all. |
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Since it's introduction to the festival in 2005 the XC race has certainly been one of the strongest trends races.
It's a race I enjoy watching myself though I appreciate it's not everyone's cup of tea. As regards Scotsirish what price do you think he'll be on the day ? |
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Personally would nt be surprised to see him sub 2/1
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Fair point BJG.
Suppose a lot depends on how the favs fare in the previous four races. If they win then people will steam into him for sure. Certainly not my type of price to be honest. |
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As youve said its hard to call but wouldnt surprise me to be 6-4 / 11-8. As i say i find it hard to see any real dangers.
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any one w.a.r yet on it?
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Nope - only on the 4 championship races
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if you got 7/2 war it would be an all in job..
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VC, get 25 free bet, anyone without an account already. Prob one and only bet I will have with them as I hear there as bad as they come, still give dues, they're the only high st bookie I can see quoting the X Country.
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lots are quoting it...7/2 general but no one gong nrnb
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'The only purpose the X Country race serves in my eyes is that it gives you a nice window of time to go to the toilet or head to the bar and have a beer'
Brilliant I certainly wouldnt be backing Paddy Mullins. I'll go back to the well and for an interest back A New Story. The ole boy always runs a cracker in this race. Keep the analysis coming Monte Christo. Enjoy reading them. |
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Surely you need to see the weights for the XC before you can decide anything is a good thing
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true
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The fly - glad to see someone enjoys them.
As regards the handicaps i love trying to solve them and have generally had good success down the years. Agree with mp & kavvie though that there's no point even looking till the weights come out. I think end of Feb is when they come out but I stand to be corrected. |
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as regards the handicaps its intresting that in h cap chases 9 yr olds have a very good record.specially ones that have ran less than 12 chases.
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Weight doesnt stop the good uns in this, old Spot the difference used to hmp 12 7 around and thrash the be jeesus out ot the plodders.
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Weight doesnt stop the good uns in this, old Spot the difference used to hmp 12 7 around and thrash the be jeesus out ot the plodders
He only carried 11-12 though in this race back in 2005 when winning. As did Garde Champetre in 2009. |
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They def carried big weights in November/December races, but I cant be arsed to check back.
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No problem deplasterer.
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Nice write ups of the champ races Monte BTW, not long now.
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Year
Winner Age Weight Jockey Trainer 2005 Spot Thedifference 12 11-12 Mr J. T. McNamara Enda Bolger 2006 Native Jack 12 10-08 Davy Russell Philip Rothwell 2007 Heads Onthe Ground 10 10-02 Miss Nina Carberry Enda Bolger 2008 Garde Champetre 9 10-13 Miss Nina Carberry Enda Bolger 2009 Garde Champetre 10 11-12 Miss Nina Carberry Enda Bolger 2010 A New Story 12 09-07 Adrian Heskin Michael Hourigan 2011 Sizing Australia 9 10-09 Andrew Lynch Henry De Bromhead |
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Only two top weights out of 7 have won this race. The rest all carried less than 11 stone.
The race in November is not a handicap and no horse has ever carried more than 11-12 on the track |
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Interesting thoughts here....
http://starbets.ie/horse-racing/mullins-holds-the-key-to-conquering-big-bucks/ |
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Interesting thoughts here....
http://starbets.ie/horse-racing/mullins-holds-the-key-to-conquering-big-bucks/ |