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By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 13:51
I don't want to go after those wealthy folk that are paying tax.

You think people should be taxed, just because they are wealthy?

As I asked you before, how much should you pay based on your wealth?
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 13:54
can you google translate that to English, 1sty?
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Sep 26 13:54
So Fred Done and his brother are not the UKs highest tax payers then Cider?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 13:55
If the wealthy are paying tax then there's no need to tax them.  I'd tax those super wealthy because they are avoiding paying tax.  A wealth tax does that and stops them avoiding it.
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 13:56
That's an old chart, I used that as we are no longer permitted to post pics. I've not looked at the most recent numbers, probably Coates.
By:
CagliariG
When: 26 Sep 26 13:57
It is the Dones.
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 13:59
I'm not interested in the individuals at this point. Just challenging the claim that 'the rich aren't paying tax'.
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:02
It's a ludicrous concept in my view, believing the state can/should grab assets just as someone thinks others have 'too much'.

There are multiple points that the state has a scalp at them, anyway.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:05
Set up a holding company.  Don't draw any income and get a loan against the assets in the holding company.  End result = no tax
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:08
just like bbc types of the past
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:09
I'm interested in why Cider thinks its OK for billionaires to pay no tax when everyone else is
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:12
Year after year their income and assets are compounding tax free in holding companies.  Exponentially over decades that's a huge amount of tax free wealth at everyone else's expense who is paying tax at 40%
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:13
Yes, you'd rather have billionaires spending their wealth in this country. In fact, you'd welcome it. If you want the country to be successful.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:13
You think if you hold billions in Chinese assets you can simply leave China and avoid tax?  That is a fantasy world
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:17
Have you shifted from thinking it's unfair to tax them to thinking oh we can't tax them, they'll just move?
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:18
The Chinese are communists. So, no.
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:20
I think it's unfair to tax existing 'wealth' ie assets that people already own.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:20
It's a helluva lot more simple to tax multi millionaires and billionaires effectively than to stop the boat people crossing the Channel
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:26
What do you think the ccp would do about illegal immigrants? I'm thinking not a free credit card and other bounty, and left alone to do whatever they want.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:30
Inheritance tax and savings and investment tax is a tax on wealth already earned.  The only difference is how you define and tax "realised" profit
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 26 Sep 26 14:32
What I know is that successive governments are doing all they can to try and crack the immigrant problem and failing.  They are not throwing everything they can about the taxation of holding companies.  They are sitting on their hands doing nothing.
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:37
Oh right, they're doing a good job of supressing the footage of boat people being rescued and being taken back to France. It appears to be one way traffic.
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:41
The counterfactual is pretty helpful in these situations. Imagining third world people piling onto boats on a British beach, going out to sea, switching the engine off and the French 'recuing' them all back to France. Giving them lots of bounty, and nice pace to stay, and the freedom of France.

No, me neither Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 26 Sep 26 14:42
Almost like it's deliberate.
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