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this has to be the worse eclipse ever on saturday
this has to be the worse eclipse ever on saturday
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imbecile 123 thought Royal Ascot was in July about 3 weeks.
He has no business posting on a horseracing forum. |
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3 weeks ago.
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“Not around” as in still training WR
Showed 4/1 on oc. River may well show, but the fact remains two stablemates have been played off of eachother and River won’t be 4/1 or 9/2 should he be scheduled for York. Likewise Hawk not his price now for Sandown. Bell asked if you’ve trained many Derby and Gold Cup Winners? Think he knows about stamina and tracks despite you calling him a , “Moron.” |
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Implausible and the obsessive loon Delbert aka The Chuckle Brothers
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The Stoke firm is B366.(9/2)
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Delashay Mark just WON the last race at SAlISBURY , but according to YOU he's still NOT training..
 . Guess I'm a worse fool for engaging with you... |
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It is very simple Delbert ( a bit like you).
The RP Standard time for 12F at The Curragh is 2.31.9 The RP Standard time for 12F at Epsom is 2.35.6 If that Bell a moron so be it but it is a fact |
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Whatever you say, my fault I didn’t read your post and take that much notice of it, trying to compare others to the AOB isn't really in my interest with a fanboy of his.
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I cannot see Con River (CR) taking on Ombudsman unless vfa is in his favour. I'll take Ombudsman to eat CR for breakfast over 10f, all things being equal.
It is not the fault of AOB to avoid the champion of its division ie Ombudsman. But, for the game of the sport AOB / Coolmore ought to pitch their best horses including 3 yr olds against Ombudsman eg CR given the distance of The Eclipse and International at York. I was gobsmacked to read Magnier Snr was against the inclusion of geldings in The ARC solely on breeding. As a racing fan I do not give two hoots about breeding. I just like to see the best horses run in a race. Anyway Coolmore have been breeding mediocre Derby winners, a disservice to horseracing in my opinion. Golden Horse won The ARC from stall 14 as a 3 yr old. Similarly, Sea The Stars won The ARC too as a 3 yr old. These two names are still fresh in the minds of many racing enthusiasts contrary to those from The AOB / Coolmore eg here today, gone tomorrow. |
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Only one firm are showing on OC, some really desperate to try and get one over on me it seems!
What a sad bitter lot. We all know Clooney lives in Stoke and it’s a dark and shabby town, according to Trapman. We all know mark is one of the luckiest trainers to ever have won the Arc. He’s an assswipe by the way for his love and admiration for Bull Fighting. |
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It is not what I say,it is a fact.
However,many semi mugs thought otherwise,just like you |
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Who’s stepping up taking the 11/10 about the odds on shot on the faith that he shows up on Saturday?
Today after the news broke about earlier that you were told about yesterday? List below all backers : |
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That price,9/2, was put up to help you out in the supposed double.
Well GET Fckd in future. |
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My net is losing slow and thanks wasn’t sure if you were trying to rip the peee too Pen
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He doesn't bet,penzance,despite endless reams of C&P and an unrivalled record in Aftertiming
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As said it’s not showing on OC and I don’t want to place it, the point is we should be able to play the game vs the trainer and their antics.
You get me? I don’t have an account with them, told them to poke it when they wouldn’t take a 63. |
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The O'brains Stakes
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Have to change the format on here, posts crossing over too.
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AOB left Ben in the King Edward at Ascot citing it was a long way to the Irish Derby. What, 9 days apart? Mr Gosden was correct not to send his star to run in the backyard of AOB given the battalion and team tactic AOB regularly deployed.
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63P is a lot for you
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Thanks for the heads up.
For those who think that it’s all conspiracy talk it’s not, it’s about working out who’s going where. I play AP unlike many of you but like Impossible does too. You’re right he did Impossible another occasion when he played the game. Had no intention of going to Ascot but told his buds at the post and they were happy to report it. |
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Sir henry and most trainers did tell people their plans , harwood for instance told all that d brave was craven, 2000 and derby all along , henry said tenby was dante and derby , and that he was running comm in chief coz he thought tenby wouldnt stay, hern didnt say a thing about nashwan before 2000 . but afterwards he said eclpse, kg arc trial , and those trainers usually stood by their plans but for injury etc
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They were around before my time John.
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The top trainer would bypass the Irish Derby for the King Edward? Only an invertebrate or a moron would believe that.
I cannot see Con River and Hawk Mountain doing battle in The Eclipse. Both may turn up running against Ombudsman in The International. Let's hope Soumillon rides Hawk Mountain. I've little doubt a team tactic will once again be utilised by AOB / Coolmore. |
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With Henry, Stoute, Cumani, Harwood, etc, they did not run a battalion or deploy team tactic in the race. A pacesetter at best eg Cataldi in a Gp 1. These trainer were gentlemen, sporting and principled. Also, very seldom did they've multiple entries for their stars.
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We’ll see who turns up, I never saw a Harwood horse run.
Pen Becket runs his Derby runner in Germany at the weekend, the sole British horse. |
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DEL, you didnt see dancing brave run, ? harwood stable those days was superb, great horses Warning, saddam, to agori, to name a few , he was training in the era of seriously great trainers and jockeys , i was lucky enough to remember the 70s to 90s era .
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Workrider/Saxon Farm
Save your breath, it's a waste of time. A couple of numpties that wouldn't know the difference between Longchamp and Lingfield even if they tripped over a copy of Paris Turf. I fail to understand why anyone would have a pop at AOB simply over entries, they are what it says on the tin. As for Constitution River not running against Hawk Mountain, why not, they met 30 days ago. I'm not suggesting they will both run, but why wouldn't they. Workrider, York in August ? I may come over. |
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No John unfortunately I didn’t and the clip of him winning the Arc doesn’t do his effort justice as it does t show the start of his run.
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Andrew aka Snotty nose, keep your cheap digs to yourself, you’re not as clued up as you make out, that’s been proven.
You thought a pit pony like Aventure was up to winning the Arc last year giving weight to 3 years! I’d posted that it wasn’t likely but I’m glad you did your money you jumped up pilchard! |
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Yes Andrew already have my ticket, though I wouldn't be surprised if you knocked on my door before then...
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And what ALB does with his entries time and again is out of order, he’s no nice guy but as you show and others on here there’s lots of bitter c you next turedsays on here!
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* and in racing.
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Workrider
A few trips to London in the planning 'pipeline' and even thinking about Sandown if Constitution River runs this weekend, but prior to York, the only meeting in Dublin i would go over for is the Oaks on July 26th. Calandagan runs at Saint Cloud on Sunday, another possible as it's close, better than the German Derby in Hamburg and not much difference in distance. |
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Don't blame The O'Brians for this, blame the British trainers reluctant to run against them.
The smart ones are Burrows, Charlton and Varian who have entered runners that between them have 0nly a G 3 win a G 3 2nd and 2 Listed wins. Why are they smart? Because,by the time 2 or 3 come out they have a shot at 3rd 4th 5th or 6th prize money- 106.8k, 53.3k, 26.2k and 17.4k respectively. |
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Delbert throws his toys out of his pram again
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So both are declared, so why are people unable to understand my issue with 1 the reporting 2 the games that the trainer plays with the reporters?
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Denis Harney
Reporter Published on 1 July 2026inFlat racing Last updated 13:36, 1 July 2026 Aidan O'Brien will surprisingly run both Constitution River and Hawk Mountain in Saturday's Coral-Eclipse (3.35). The Ballydoyle trainer kept four in contention for the 1m2f Group 1 at Monday's confirmations stage, but he said at that point no decision would be made over the participation of key players Constitution River and Hawk Mountain. O'Brien had indicated it would be one or the other, but he revealed to the Racing Post on Wednesday afternoon that connections have decided both will head to Sandown. Is it clear now what I dislike? Don’t make any suggestion to the media as it’s misleading. I’ll let you question why he’s doing it. But from my point of view it’s to play one off of the other. There was hardly anything between them at Chantilly yet because of the trainers words prices were 10/11 vs 16/1 |
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Perhaps because you are an obsessive motormouthed moron,Delbert who wants to tell a World Class Trainer how to conduct his business?
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The 3rd issue with the bet was that prices for the International @ York weren’t available when 16/1 was for this race.
Yet we can bet on Cheltenham next year! By the time prices were up the odds had been slashed yesterday. So Penzance there is no proposed or supposed double because the odds weren’t there on offer. |