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so far from the greats nashwan, mtoto, dancing brave, pebbles, sea the stars
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Flat racing is rubbish mate, jumps racing is for proper horses and proper racing people
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Yep, as bad as it comes. Another AOB benefit race with a runner parachuted in when Ombudsman opted out. The winner will be forgotten come Monday.
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Will be if it is cloudy all day.
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Impossible , the greatest trainer the World has ever seen and all you try to do is knock him.
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Implausible is thicker than an elephants trunk,workrider
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Yes Irons he makes some strange posts .
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However,I am amazed that they are appealing Soumi's ban
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Kevin Blake talks about the necessity of moving the race
back a couple of weeks to improve the quality. |
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Leave the race alone and stop interfering.
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More talking for the sake of talking from the O'Brien mouthpiece.
The flat season narrative every year exists around overblown hype. The cheerleading brigade go into overdrive. The vast majority of horses talked up will never go on to do anything. For all the 'great' pedigrees, most will never live up to expectation. Add in the impossibles like Balding and O'Brien, the joke that is the weighing room, and day after day of bookmaker friendly races, it's not a great enticement for punters, unless you happen to like losing. |
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Kevin is like the new Risen to some folks,needs to keep a lid on ….a decent man tho,well mannered.
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yes, Blake getting to be disliked these days, nothing wrong with when eclipse is on, but his bosses rather run v each other in that joke race that its become the irish derby , and too many other group 1 near the race, the prince of wales now seems to be themain target , it didnt years back as it was group2, the pretty polly another race just a week before eclipse, maybe blake should sort out the irish calender , what a race it could have been, daryz, ombudsman, b cellini, cons river, estrange,
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Yet again you have the will he or won’t he run thing again.
For every race they have to play that game. Ever since the jockey club they wouldn’t commit. Yes they have to do their last work, yes they had to see how he came out of the JC but a race is never put up as the actual intended goal. Ordinarily this wouldn’t matter so much, but because there was so little between Hawk And River in the JC it gives them more room to play the game of who will run. Say this is the target end of, turn up, show up, celebrate get on your phone or commiserate and blame the pace. |
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For all those that say AoB simply runs lots of horses in the Derby because of the amount of horses in his stable.
A Group 1 goes by without a representative. After the G2 Prix Eugene Adam only had 4 runners at the weekend in France. The 2026 edition of the Deutsches Derby was expected to be very interesting after the addition of Hawk Mountain and Causeway, but in the end Group I will compete without any horse from Aidan O'Brien at the start. Indeed, during the statements on Tuesday, the only confirmed foreign horse is Bay of Brilliance, trained by Ralph Beckett in England and entrusted to Hector Crouch. Twenty horses will therefore start this classic German race, which could have given Aidan O'Brien the opportunity to make a full Deck, after having already won the French, English and Irish Derbys this season. In his absence, Gostam, disappointing in the Prix du Jockey Club but unbeaten in four starts before his attempt at Chantilly, took on the role of favourite, with Englishman, coached by Marcel Weiss and unbeaten in two starts. |
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Take out the fav and its borderline group 3.
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The one in December 1992 was the worst. Total letdown.
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Ya, very mediocre. I used to look forward to its running annually. This renewal's top spot has been occupied (by default) after connections of Ombudsman jettison. This seems to be the norm lately. The Epsom Derby is another regularly won by mediocre horses from the AOB / Coolmore.
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Let's get the facts right about O'Brien parachuting a rnr in,he hasn't done anything
like that.All his rnrs were entered anyway. |
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penzance , impossible can only fault AOB, whom he blames for everything thats gone wrong in British Racing it seems...
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Hawk Mountain's Eclipse odds slashed after colt is scratched from Sunday's German Derby
Sadie Iddenden Reporter Published on 30 June 2026inBritain Last updated 15:55, 30 June 2026 Aidan O'Brien's Hawk Mountain has halved in price for the Coral-Eclipse after being taken out of Sunday's German Derby. The son of Wootton Bassett was supplemented for the Classic on Monday, which led to his stablemate Constitution River – who had finished directly ahead of him when winning the Prix du Jockey Club last time – being shortened to 5-4 favourite. However, after Hawk Mountain was taken out of the Hamburg race on Tuesday, Ladbrokes reacted by cutting him to 6-1 (from 12s) for Saturday's big race at Sandown. O'Brien has been non-committal over which of his colts will line up at Sandown, with both set to complete a piece of work on Wednesday before a decision is made. SAME OLD SAME OLD |
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Delashay 29 Jun 26 14:54 Joined: 14 Apr 25
I’ve seen that both Causeway and Hawk Mountain have entries for the Germany derby at the weekend. They’d contested win and you’re in for it. No mention of this on the post when discussing the Eclipse at the weekend on the RP. - - - - - Given the heads up yesterday playing one against the other as per usual, great trainer and all that, but sick of his games. They weren’t SUPPD they had winplace and you’re in entries. |
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Would you expect AOB to guess before they work?
You suffer from a feeling of entitlement,Delbert. Get over it |
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Delashay , so they are due to do a piece of work TOMORROW according to your piece ,yet you expect AOB to give a decision TODAY...Strange or what, do you think he can see into the furtue ...
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You’re very trusting if you think that they are doing serious work this close to the G1 at Sandown.
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Normally he wouldn’t have two horses so closely matched on the entries it allows him to play you all even further.
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You have never worked with horses if you think you wouldn't notice something from s piece of work .
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Normally he wouldn’t have two horses so closely matched on the entries it allows him to play you all even further.
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All this conspiracy theory from Debert who doesn't even bet
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It’s facts playing one stable entry off the other some are either naive or too thick to see it.
Comment about me and not the situation that’s being discussed wollock chops! |
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And the above is why I don’t subscribe to the C&P journos at the RP
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Immediately post the win of Con River in France its price tumbled from 20 -> 5. And, following the lukewarm post race comments of AOB for this race its price eased to 15. Its price tumbled to 7 before the taking run of Ombudsman in the Prince Of Wales. He was still about 7 until rumours were circulating that connections of Ombudsman might skip this race. When this was confirmed on 25th June its price collapsed to 6/4.
From 20 -> 5 -> 15 -> 7...5 -> 6/4 |
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So thats AOBS fault is it Impossible ?
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Stoute , Henry RIP, Sir Mark etc never exactly told punters their plans...
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I can bet AP on Chelts
 but I couldn’t get a quote for the International. Eclipse / International double. Can’t see Minnie Hawk taking Ombudsman on again, will River head there and Hawk to Sandown, not much on formlines between the two in both races. I.e. second string Hawk to Sandown to take on one who was in reciept of 7lbs. River to try and Scalp Ombudsman at York. It’s not conspiracy it’s working out the fiddle. Wills go 4/1 TODAY for River at York (only Wills) |
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Stoute , Henry RIP, Sir Mark etc never exactly told punters their plans...
Agree they didn’t. They aren’t around now though. |
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Implausible probably believes the Bookmaker nonsense of this supposed gamble.
Nobody with any idea can get a £1 on let alone Insiders from AOB |
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Delashay maybe the HENRY RIP is a hint the others wouldn't like to think you didn't know they were still AROUND
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The fact that the certifiable Delbert calls it a "Fiddle" sums him up.
BTW,he stated on Sunday that the the Curragh 12F was stiffer than the 12F at Epsom |
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9/2 with the Stoke firm.
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