There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 186 comments are related to the topic:
the irish derby 14.35 curragh
the irish derby 14.35 curragh
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 186
|
By:
Absolutely correct a big old boat that needed the stiffer test of the Curragh.
|
|
By:
Pen who was the only one who answered you that day? The 3/1 looks big now hey?
|
|
By:
This is why Rossa doesn't ride for a proper stable or any serious horses. Just Beckett handicappers
|
|
By:
Delashay 28 Jun 26 13:07
Not betting here but my view is that Ben is a big old boat. Why? : It needed a very strong gallop set at Chester, it went straight over 1m 4 1/2F first time out unlike the other Derby horses who went 1m 2f then stepped up. I never felt that Epsom would be his track even if the going was good, his sister Giselle flopped there in the Oaks the year before. I see Moore said the quicker going will suit today which makes even more of a mockery of him being a non runner! "Obviously there was a lot of controversy around Benvenuto Cellini being deemed a non-runner at Epsom," said Moore. "He’s going to be back on nicer ground and that will make a significant difference to him. He’s had two disappointing runs in his life and both of them were on slower ground, so hopefully he’ll be a lot happier on the quicker surface." They knew that he’d not like conditions and maybe the track but still supposedly ran him. With his obvious stamina credentials mentioned above, the stiffer Curragh test should be more to his liking than Epsom. I’m not backing Christmas Day but would like to see him confirm form, going into the Derby DD had said that on pedigree he might not like soft. He form on good ground, the first up race where he carried a penalty has been franked, but I’m not going to lose my money won on him in the event of an AOB stitch up there today. Penzance had said that 3’s looked short a while back and his price made no appeal back then and doesn’t today. Delashay 28 Jun 26 16:41 Is a big old boat and the Curragh was his track, all correct. strange no mention pre race  |
|
By:
BTW,The Curragh is not a stiffer test than Epsom,you loon.
|
|
By:
King Geroge should suit, uphill finish but who know's where it will go next.
|
|
By:
”With his obvious stamina credentials mentioned above, the stiffer Curragh test should be more to his liking than Epsom.”
Correct Anyone give an opinion before the race? Is he a class horse? Is Pierre all Klass? Hmmm all 3 all klassss?! I doubt it a big old boat is right I’d say! That’s won a supposed derby! |
|
By:
Yes another stamina test for him, where he can take time to get into gear!
|
|
By:
whens the last time a 'big old boat' hacked up in a group 1? ydc.
|
|
By:
Standard time for the Curragh is 2.31.9
Standard time for Epsom is 2.35.6 You utter thicket,Delbert |
|
By:
As for the criticism of Rossa
|
|
By:
A big old boat outstayed those who raced prominently.
Where were you answering here back then? penzance • June 8, 2026 1:41 PM BST Can anyone on here see Benvenuto Cellini over turning the form with the Epsom 1ST 3 if they meet again,I can't myself.3/1 looks short to me. Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • June 8, 2026 2:09 PM BST It wasn’t given a hard time and we’ve been here before, last year. The horse made the market since it won at Chester. He’d been 2/1 since then. Plenty of time to lay it. Then the money came for the winner who was ridden to win. Yes I can see the result changed, on different ground, but mainly tactics. - - - - There you go the only one to answer a direct question, I’m sure you wise after took the 3’s on offer! |
|
By:
Stiffer test at the Curragh?
You clueless moron |
|
By:
Now cut n paste where I said he wouldn’t win today. He’s still a boat and that’s a Group 1 in name only.
|
|
By:
|
|
By:
Interesting on RTE that AOB intimating that Moore feels the winner would probably be better at 10f and the ground and speed, compared to the second and third, would be the difference. That was the view before the race. Interesting to hear if its still the same. Second and third Leger horses. Fran Berry pretty scathing on Rossa Ryan's ride.
|
|
By:
Poor old Delbert
|
|
By:
Fair play Cider.
He’s outstayed them today there, let’s see him in the Juddmonte if 10f is his trip. No need I didn’t back it at 3/1 nor did any of you. |
|
By:
No answer about the stiffer Course,Delbert
|
|
By:
He’s beaten the lowest derby rated horse in years and he’s a super star?
Is that what all the pocket talkers are saying? |
|
By:
Jane 'I'm always right and louder than everyone else' Mangan says the first winner today was the best horse we saw all weekend. Time will tell...
|
|
By:
That would be a no,then.
Autistics can never be wrong |
|
By:
The Curragh is a stiff track yes. Stiffer might have been a mistype but at least I was there contributing to the thread before the race and basically said he’ll win because of the track suiting.
|
|
By:
Rossa gave up the rail, but clearly in the knowledge that half the field would have blocked him in (unlike the winner). Obviously the mafia give the opposition paranoia. Could quibble if beat a length but he wasn't anywhere near good enough anyway.
|
|
By:
I see.
Now its a mistype instead of you just being wrong,Delbert |
|
By:
How about anyone saying if top priced 6’s makes appeal for the KG, put your necks out.
|
|
By:
AOB has now thanked everyone in the yard, except for the Amazon drive who delivers for Coolmore.
|
|
By:
Don't try your deflection bullshat here,Delbert.
You were wrong but are not man enough to admit it |
|
By:
There’s no deflecting I was right he’s a boat and won, a no bet in the race.
He was double digits this morning for Ascot I presume lots filled their boots? |
|
By:
0/12 for the Sandown trial(Raaheeb) rnrs now.
Not worked out at all so far. |
|
By:
No it hasn’t Pen I was going to say the form looks crud but I’d be calked an after
|
|
By:
Hugo-Hackenbush • June 28, 2026 4:46 PM BST
Delashay 28 Jun 26 13:07 Not betting here but my view is that Ben is a big old boat. Why? : It needed a very strong gallop set at Chester, it went straight over 1m 4 1/2F first time out unlike the other Derby horses who went 1m 2f then stepped up. I never felt that Epsom would be his track even if the going was good, his sister Giselle flopped there in the Oaks the year before. I see Moore said the quicker going will suit today which makes even more of a mockery of him being a non runner! "Obviously there was a lot of controversy around Benvenuto Cellini being deemed a non-runner at Epsom," said Moore. "He’s going to be back on nicer ground and that will make a significant difference to him. He’s had two disappointing runs in his life and both of them were on slower ground, so hopefully he’ll be a lot happier on the quicker surface." They knew that he’d not like conditions and maybe the track but still supposedly ran him. With his obvious stamina credentials mentioned above, the stiffer Curragh test should be more to his liking than Epsom. I’m not backing Christmas Day but would like to see him confirm form, going into the Derby DD had said that on pedigree he might not like soft. He form on good ground, the first up race where he carried a penalty has been franked, but I’m not going to lose my money won on him in the event of an AOB stitch up there today. Penzance had said that 3’s looked short a while back and his price made no appeal back then and doesn’t today. Delashay 28 Jun 26 16:41 Is a big old boat and the Curragh was his track, all correct. strange no mention pre race - - - - - Listen when you quote someone and try rip them one at least read what you’re quoting, all mentioned pre race. |
|
By:
Off subject but Weld really fancies Purview for the BC Turf. He says he trained the horse to peak at the latter end of the season and hasn't ruled out the Irish Champion Stakes. Thinks the ground would be too soft for a go at the Arc.
|
|
By:
But,you were wrong,Debert.
Epsom is a stiffer Course than the Curragh |
|
By:
Thanks for the heads up, I’ve not seen RTV coverage.
|
|
By:
Nothing to do with RTV Coverage,Delbert.
It is simply a matter of knowledge |
|
By:
Del,you’ve got him on a string……
|
|
By:
I’ll give my opinion, I think that Ascot will suit him as a stamina test.
Am I backing, no at the odds it makes little appeal, like the odds today didn’t draw me in to back despite seeing him as the likely winner. I’m wary of entering the fridge Ace! |
|
By:
Poor old Aceform,not getting any attention.
|
|
By:
Being a boat, he might prefer Windsor.
|