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By:
Poppydog.
When: 14 Apr 26 20:47
He lied in court under oath, without contrition, saying the victim did it himself and, even worse, claiming that the police witnesses got it wrong/lied. 

That is probably the main reason for the harsh sentence.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Apr 26 20:47
Crown court

Causing grievous bodily harm with intent to do grievous bodily harm / Wounding with intent to do GBH

Triable only on indictment
Maximum: Life imprisonment
Offence range: 2 – 16 years’ custody

Step 1 – Determining the offence category
The court should determine the offence category with reference only to the factors in the tables below. In order to determine the category the court should assess culpability and harm.

Culpability
Where there are factors present from more than one category of culpability, the court should weigh those factors in order to decide which category most resembles the offender’s case.

A -  High culpability
Significant degree of planning or premeditation
Victim obviously vulnerable due to age, personal characteristics or circumstances
Use of a highly dangerous weapon or weapon equivalent*
Strangulation/suffocation/asphyxiation
Leading role in group activity
Prolonged/persistent assault
Revenge
B – Medium culpability
Use of a weapon or weapon equivalent which does not fall within category A
Lesser role in group activity
Cases falling between category high and low culpability because:
Factors in both high and lesser categories are present which balance each other out; and/or
The offender’s culpability falls between the factors as described in high and lesser culpability
C – Lesser culpability
No weapon used
Excessive self defence
Offender acted in response to prolonged or extreme violence or abuse by victim
Mental disorder or learning disability, where linked to the commission of the offence
* A highly dangerous weapon can include weapons such as knives and firearms. Highly dangerous weapon equivalents can include corrosive substances (such as acid), whose dangerous nature must be substantially above and beyond the legislative definition of an offensive weapon which is; ‘any article made or adapted for use for causing injury, or is intended by the person having it with him for such use’.  The court must determine whether the weapon or weapon equivalent is highly dangerous on the facts and circumstances of the case.

Harm
All cases will involve ‘really serious harm’, which can be physical or psychological, or wounding. The court should assess the level of harm caused with reference to the impact on the victim.

Where there are factors present from more than one category of harm, the court should weigh those factors in order to decide which category most resembles the offender’s case.

Category 1
Particularly grave or life-threatening injury caused
Injury results in physical or psychological harm resulting in lifelong dependency on third party care or medical treatment
Offence results in a permanent, irreversible injury or psychological condition which has a substantial and long term effect on the victim’s ability to carry out their normal day to day activities or on their ability to work
Category 2
Grave injury
Offence results in a permanent, irreversible injury or condition not falling within category 1
Category 3
All other cases of really serious harm
All other cases of wounding
By:
Cider
When: 14 Apr 26 20:49
By:
leif
When: 14 Apr 26 20:54
Cidre pour yaself a glass of scotch and relax.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Apr 26 20:55
Prolonged/persistent assault = Culpability A

All other cases of wounding = Category 3

The Labour MP could and should have been charged with GBH.

Unfortunately, CPS do not share their working. But their own press release states that is was 'prolonged and persistent' (until the bystanders stopped him):

before he was punched to the head and knocked to the ground by the MP.

While the victim remained on the ground, Amesbury followed him into the road and punched him at least a further five times before members of the public intervened.


Feel free to argue that couldn't have been GBH, based on the law.
By:
JML
When: 14 Apr 26 20:55
I thought we were discussing the manslaughter charge.

You seem to have gone to a great deal of trouble to change the subject.


Why have gone to all that trouble to explain I was wrong to say he was lucky to get 3 years.

I make mistakes all time and I'm not the one who has the problem with admitting I'm wrong.

Point me to a single time you've admitted to be wrong in your 68000 posts.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Apr 26 20:58
I quoted your first post on the thread, which references the Labour MP's conviction.

Your assertion is that Williams' was more serious by virtue of the charges.

Who determines the charges?
By:
Cider
When: 14 Apr 26 21:01
It was no trouble, and few minutes, google, copy and paste.

Why don't you actually explain what you disagree with.


I did what you asked for, and yet you still moan, and take cheaper shots than a Labour MP.
By:
JML
When: 14 Apr 26 21:03
Wow you're one pathetic bore
By:
Cider
When: 14 Apr 26 21:07
I have nothing on you. You literally asked me to explain, which I did. All you have left is juvenile and tedious name calling. You have the necessary skills to be a Labour MP as it goes!
By:
JML
When: 14 Apr 26 21:18
one of you're posts seems to have disappeared.

Did you get it removed?
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 14 Apr 26 21:40
Plenty get less for worse , some no prison time
By:
JML
When: 14 Apr 26 21:44
So you got your Calocane post deleted and carried on to change the subject.

Pathetic and sly.
By:
leif
When: 14 Apr 26 21:48
Don't believe you can get your posts removed?
By:
JML
When: 14 Apr 26 21:54
He posted questioning the CPS decision to charge him with manslaughter.

I mention manslaughter in my 20.13 and 20.55 posts.

He didn't ask what I was talking about.
By:
leif
When: 14 Apr 26 22:03
Why is comaparing a mentally ill black man with a white compos mentis racehorse trainer who, as ponited out, showed no contrition, pleaded not guilty and tried to twist the narrative in his favour?
He's another ethnocentric bigot.
Farage fan-boy no doubt.
By:
leif
When: 14 Apr 26 22:05
Big Bruce on C wing will look after Evan from now on.
By:
Jacko2017
When: 14 Apr 26 22:46
Diarmuid Phelan, a senior counsel and law professor, was found not guilty of murdering Keith Conlon, who was shot on Phelan’s Dublin farm in February 2022. The jury accepted Phelan acted in self-defence after a "heated exchange" with trespassers, though Conlon died two days later.Key Details of the Case:Incident: The shooting occurred on February 22, 2022, at Hazelgrove farm, Kiltalown Lane, Tallaght, Dublin.The Deceased: Keith Conlon, 35, was a father-of-four who was trespassing on the land while hunting.The Trial: Phelan, 56, was charged with murder and denied the accusation, arguing he was protecting himself and his property.Verdict: Following a trial in January 2025, a jury found Phelan not guilty of murder.Context: The court heard that a verbal dispute occurred before shots were fired, with Phelan firing shots with a revolver.The case drew significant attention due to it's high-profile nature

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41547238.html
By:
Jacko2017
When: 14 Apr 26 22:49
This is what can easily happen in any given situation things can escalate extremely fast with deadly consequences for all involved
By:
Stringvest
When: 14 Apr 26 22:55
Ethnocentric Bigot ...PATHETIC  LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
acey deucy
When: 14 Apr 26 23:17
Evan Williams has been sentenced to three years in prison, following his conviction last month for causing grievous bodily harm with intent.

Williams attacked 72-year-old Martin Dandridge in the mistaken belief he was a lamper, a type of poacher, one evening in December 2024, leaving Dandridge with a broken arm.

"This was an appalling offence, causing serious injury," Recorder Angharad Price told Williams as she delivered the sentence on Tuesday morning at Cardiff Crown Court. "It is never acceptable to take the law into your own hands."

The future of Williams' training business is in question, after his barrister, David Elias KC, told the court: "If he isn't there, there is no business."

Williams' licence was transferred after his conviction into the name of his wife, Cath, but Elias cast doubt on whether she would continue in charge.

"It doesn't matter in whose name the licence is," Elias said, as part of a plea to the judge to impose only a suspended sentence. "It is Evan Williams who brings the racing knowledge and no one else."

During his argument for mitigation, Elias described "an unprecedented number of testimonials", with 570 character references having been received by Williams' solicitors and more continuing to arrive. A representative sample amounting to 102 of those references had been submitted to the court and read by the judge in advance of Tuesday's hearing.

Attempting to explain the trainer's state of mind at the time of the assault, Elias described "a terrifying previous incident" about six weeks beforehand when trespassers had threatened Williams with a shotgun and made threats about burning his property. That led to him "reacting on the spur of the moment to a situation he believed was far more serious than it actually was".

A pre-sentencing report compiled to assist the judge spoke of Williams suffering "unresolved trauma which impaired his judgement" as a result of the earlier incident. Elias emphasised that the trainer had shown insight and changed his behaviour, calling the police to deal with a subsequent incident rather than intervening himself.

Evan Williams' most notable training success came when winning the 2024 Christmas Hurdle with Silver Streak
Evan Williams' most notable training success came when winning the 2024 Christmas Hurdle with Silver Streak
Credit: Debbie Burt
The court heard that, as well as being a highly successful trainer, Williams was "much-loved in the local community," supporting charities and never on any other occasion behaving as he had done towards Dandridge. His training operation, built from scratch, was described as the largest rural employer in the Vale of Glamorgan and a vital source of trade for local suppliers.

Elias added that Williams had shown remorse that was "genuine, consistent and focused on the harm caused to Mr Dandridge," rather than on the possible legal consequences for himself. Citing the trainer's previous exemplary character, Elias urged the court to accept there was sufficient mitigation to allow for a suspended sentence, which would have seen Williams walk free from court.

However, Recorder Price explained that could only be done if the appropriate sentence was, in her judgement, two years at the most. Elias noted that subsequent changes to sentencing guidelines would have allowed her to suspend a sentence of up to three years, if Williams' conviction had occurred just 13 days later than it had done.

Announcing her verdict that a three-year term was appropriate, Recorder Price said it was the shortest sentence that she could impose "commensurate with my public duty".

Addressing Williams, she said: "When you gave evidence at trial, you talked passionately of protecting your racehorses and your family from harm. That protection should not have come at Mr Dandridge's cost. He should not have paid such a high price for walking his dog on the wrong field. This sentence will be a lesson to you that it is always better to call the police if you believe a crime is being committed.”

She added that Williams would be released from prison no later than 18 months into his sentence, with the balance of the three years to be served in the community.

William Bebb, prosecuting, read out a statement from Dandridge, which said the assault had had "a profound impact" on his life. "I don't feel like the same person I was," he wrote.

He described ongoing pain around the area of a fracture to his left arm, affecting the grip strength in his dominant hand and undermining his ability to pursue former hobbies like golf and metal detecting. He also spoke of anxiety, disturbed sleep and intrusive thoughts, particularly around what he described as a moment during the assault when he feared for his life.

In a statement, the BHA said: "We're aware of the sentencing today of Evan Williams, following his conviction last month. As has been the case throughout this process, we'll be in contact with Cath Williams and her staff in the coming days and weeks to provide support as they consider the next steps for their yard."

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By:
Amherst
When: 15 Apr 26 00:02
Leif-  getting a bore with the race card now imo. Look in the mirror.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Apr 26 00:03
quaker oats for evan at 7am.
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 07:57
Joe blogs in most walks of life NH lovers would welcome the time tbh…..

He looks the part imv,a person you wouldn’t cross….
By:
Delashay
When: 15 Apr 26 10:24
The geezer looks a lot like Ben Fogle, maybe Evan isn’t a fan of his shows?!

Using a hockey stick is cowardly, some dog walkers are completely ignorant and think they have rights to let their mutts run free without being on a leash and treat public spaces as their own land.
By:
Delashay
When: 15 Apr 26 10:32
The wanna be intellectual has been mentioned, he went for the guys eyes, not the first time that he’s done that, remember the incident with the lit cigar?

Was a poor footballer and I wonder how any club could have given him employment?
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 10:59
Dog owners who walk the dog off the lead should be fined heavily……

There are specific areas where you can let the dog run free,high fencing to keep them safe…..

Grow a brain.
By:
Delashay
When: 15 Apr 26 11:04
It’s not about them growing a brain but having respect for others Ace.
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 11:06
Let’s call it ignorance…
By:
Delashay
When: 15 Apr 26 11:14
Agree, it’s not nice for some people (who might have been attacked by a dog) or youngsters to have dogs run up to them.

A guy with an English Bull Terrier was letting him run free, it jumped up at me continually, when I said can you please put it on its lead he said no!

The air tuned blue pretty quickly and he picked up a big tree branch!

So things can spiral out of control pretty rapidly. I’m guessing the same might have happened here.

I’m an animal lover and don’t hold it against the dogs, it’s the owners.
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 11:26
Dogs getting killed on the road because some slurry brain couldn’t be @rsed…..
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 11:27
I love my dogs more and humans…..Fact !
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 11:27
Correction….

More than humans.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 15 Apr 26 11:55
I thought that had to be wrong ace!
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 12:48
Laugh You know me swifty…
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Apr 26 12:48
Laugh You know me swifty…
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 15 Apr 26 12:59
Very harsh insofar as inconsistent with sentences for similar sentences which often avoid custodial entirely
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 15 Apr 26 13:04
Aaron Nomicas got 6 months for this which was clearly a fait bit worse..

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVrZE6Zjpgw/

British justice pot luck
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 15 Apr 26 13:11
This incident far worse and a second offence whilst on bail .. 2 years 6 months

Wilkerson 21, had been illegally riding an e-scooter when the victim – a man in his 70s – asked him to get off the vehicle. Wilkerson got off the scooter and then began filming the victim, causing him to feel distress. The victim grabbed Wilkerson’s phone and asked him to stop.

Wilkerson then became aggressive and began punching the victim repeatedly, causing a fractured eye socket and multiple other injuries. Members of the public gave first aid before the emergency services arrived to take over.

Wilkerson was arrested the next day. His e-scooter was seized and he was reported for driving offences.

Less than a year before, Wilkerson had been involved in another violent incident and he was on bail for this offence at the time of the GBH.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Apr 26 14:26
formoftheace 15 Apr 26 11:27 
I love my dogs more and humans…..Fact !


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