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The aim of today's race is to obtain a handicap mark. As such, will he be extended by Moore? Several bookies are offering price boosts on him winning by a certain number of lengths.
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I too have my doubts about how much he will be extended. At Newcastle Osin was probably told, we want to find out how good he is over 12f. Now they know, I agree it might be more of a case of getting a handicap for future races, without giving him hard races.
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They'll want a high mark.
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Into 1/1 money for 3+ lengths.
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123 thinks race is a waste of time . And won't be watching.....but he's posting on ere now........anyone guess were he Willbe in twenty minutes
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Loads opposing him to win up to 1.14 though. Win or no where?
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I won't be watching...I'll be watching in-running though.
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You said Jon bon should be retired back in November.....only won over 300k since
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I'd have, for JP's wealth. The horse suffered several reversals plus denying his "stablemate" a win in The Ryanair. Similarly, Sir Gino post last season's misfortune. The same goes for Constitution Hill over the sticks.
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Big crowd turned up, their first AW night meeting, they move out to watch the race....and find out you can see bugger all and end up watching it on the big screen.
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Done it comfortably in the end.
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Bit meh compared to his previous run.
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Think we learned nothing more than the first race he ran this year. Not sure what they have on their hands. Another good confidence booster.
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Bookmakers laughing with those distance bets. Never a prayer. Won by as far as he could.
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Would be better if they ran him at Newcastle then Kempton of all the All weather tracks, Kempton wouldnt be his ideal track. Newcastle he would extend further clear as they tend to run at a sounder pace, looked a bit muddling for 4F
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The bookies are laughing all the way to the bank with their winning distances bets.
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All depends how much they took.
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Rico-Dangleflaps 25 Mar 26 17:31
i thort 1/5 to win was great value..i also think Classical Allusion 1.3 1st 3 was great value. wd rico |
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Easy peasy, finding money in the street, the way he won you might get another go at short odds on, race not run to suit just hands and heals, the buying money guys out tonight 1.3 million on the race, they knew you don’t get many horses impressive as frankel to bet at 1/4
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evens at slybet for 2 lengths lands the money on the nose
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That horse is no Frankel on the Flat
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race was slowly run..visually wasnt as impressive as southwell...wouldnt have suited winner or 2nd.
Cons hill to win a gr1 1000/1..to win a gr3 will be a struggle..imo |
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'sly' is 250p max.
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The horse that finished second tonight was only having his second lifetime race.
The horse in third has run 16 races without winning, and only placed once (3rd) in 15 previous races. Next stop the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe for Constitution Hill? The level of form is more suited to opening supermarkets, or being paraded around the ring as an all-time great. |
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Two medium-sized impediments to him running in the Arc.
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Hes a jaffa is one..... do Del Boy reckons.
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I would think Frankel himself would have been no Frankle at 9 yrs old, he certainly would have been the Frankel we saw as a 4yo before going to stud. I certainly would not dismiss Constitution Hill yet of winning a Grp 3 on the right ground . I looked after the winner of the Brigadier Gerard Stks one year Grp 3 ran on soft ground at Sandown (horses were walking at the winning post) the same horse could barely lay up around Kempton AW
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Bookies going 8-1 to win a Group 1 this season.
I should probably be offered at 8-1 also, along with Shergar. |
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A Group1 win is fanciful at best
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Ryan Moore:
Asked what level he can compete at, Moore replied: "We don't know yet, he'll tell us. We'll know more after his next run. I'd say that is a non-answer, and we will see the horse beating no-hopers fro a few more races. |
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If the Ebor is on the agenda seems pointless running in JPS G3 coz if it finished close up its bound to have a hcap mark near 110,maybe try find an egg n spoon conditions race somewhere
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Owen must be happy with his 3rd place.......
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Is the Ebor on the agenda? We'd have to have a very wet summer.
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gr1 8/1 pmsl..
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Here is a take on the performance I have not read. Suppose you had a good knowledge of horse racing but had been on another planet for weeks. Then you return as tonight's horses enter the straight. The sound is turned down on your TV so you do not know it is C Hill. The horse wins, so what would you write down as notes for the performance. 'Travelled well, led inside final furlong, pushed out, won comfortbaly'. Nothing brilliant in that given there were some poor horses in opposition.
What I am trying to say is how the hype over this horse is masking what is achieving so far on the flat. A dynamic and very good win at Swell agianst some poor horses. It did travel supreme easily throughout at Swell. But tongight, was the win dynamic? And, to my eye, it did not travel quite as easily. Now, much of those two things might be down to the difference in approach between Murphy and Moore. The latter just gets it done but when interviewd afterards he said 'there is still a bit of improvement there'. Of course, that is Moore all over BUT it needs a lot more than 'a bit of improvement' to win a Group race. The horse is 9 and, sad, to say, I deteced in its whole apperance and performace tonight just the tiiest bit of sourness. At his age, I am now wondering if he is going off the idea of racing. Henderson has been really annoying with this horse for years and, in my view, the owner is rather naive thinkign about Melbourne Cups etc etc. If the horse improves enough to win a Group race then I am wrong and very well done to all. But I do not think it will and a realistic target is surely the Pitmen's Derby at Newcastle, which is a race where horses carrying a lot of weight do well in. It is also Tapeta which the horse coped with so well at Southwell. I want to see the horse succeed but part of me wants to see it flop so the OTT hype stops. Making a nine year horse who developed a problem over hurdles into some kind of potetinal superstar on the flat at is madness = but typical of how the childish media conduct themselves nowadays. Too easily impressed and lacking the critical eye equired to analyse horse racing properly. We shall see. |
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all been sed above in fairness.
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I love the Horse but he aint reaching any dizzy heights oan the flat ffs.
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well deduced acey dopey ydc.
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