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By:
1st time poster
When: 23 Feb 26 09:08
who,s ever trained a horse,targeted THE JOHN PORTER STAKES, what's it even worth these days,might as well target  THE ZETLAND GOLD CUP at redcar ,
what won THE JOHN PORTER last yr with googling ?
By:
Gordon63
When: 23 Feb 26 09:14
Musselburgh Easter Saturday £80k Listed Galileo (formerly the Nottingham Further Flight)
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Feb 26 09:57
acey deucy 22 Feb 26 22:37 
I told Hendeson Years ago on here he  was wasted over Jumps and the big flat races were his oyster.Look it up if you dont believe me.

also sed ewe would leave the forum if ewe were wrong about 12 times..ya full of sh1te ydc.
By:
The Cowboy
When: 23 Feb 26 12:54
Now CH may be going to the Melbourne Cup - his owner seriously considering it. He wins a maiden getting weight from the only other semi-decent horse in the race. Probable rating around 90/95 - and the owner thinks he can safely compete in the Melbourne Cup after all the travel. The furthest he has travelled is Punchestown - and we know what happened there. A load of RP baloney and Aussie PR.  He will never pass the vet tests.
By:
penzance
When: 23 Feb 26 13:25
106P T.Form rating.
By:
howard
When: 23 Feb 26 13:49
Owner is chock full of it.
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 15:35

Feb 22, 2026 -- 11:35PM, the old nanny ;-) wrote:


What is his flat rating after beating that mob ?


the raw performance figs are 92 CH 85 SN 83 gamb
all 3 likely improvers on that but if sticking to the flat I'd aim for the gordon richards run on the watered hurdles course for whitbread weekend & take it from there
newbury you'd be taking a chance the elements produce jumping ground for the flat course
melbourne cup is 100/1 to pass the vet wondered if it was april 1st

By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 15:38
maybe the BHA could create a conditions race for him @ heathrow as a prep for flemington
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Feb 26 15:54
'acey', Hendo is well past it. His judgement on CH has been opened to question several times. He refused to run him at Punchestown when he was in pink health and top form after winning the Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham. Then (only a fool would) he ran him there after a tumble at Cheltenham and Aintree. Absolutely bizarre!
By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Feb 26 15:58
Get a top horseman and watch it destroy the field at Cheltenham…..owner is itching to go…..

The current one could be responsible for the horse losing confidence at the hurdle….

Bet John Francome thinks the same tbh….
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Feb 26 16:02
Over jumps is too risky in my opinion. The horse owes nobody anything - not even the owners.
By:
GAZO
When: 23 Feb 26 16:11
if he wasn't going to CH why would they not have said by now?
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Feb 26 16:19
^^Typical of Hendo. He loves the attention, and ambiguity.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Feb 26 16:29
wondersobright 23 Feb 26 15:35 
the raw performance figs are 92 CH 85 SN 83 gamb

beats necker 10L on snaff getting 5lb and you rate that a 7lb better horse?
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 16:43
SN beaten 9.5l that's approx 14lb beating over 12f
carrying 5lb less hence 9lb beating
effectively 7lb when 4yo allowance factored in to account for immaturity
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 16:43
interested to hear your figures for the 1st 3 home...
By:
penzance
When: 23 Feb 26 16:58
He'll be rated nearer 100 than 90.Was still tanking while they were
at it.
By:
dave1357
When: 23 Feb 26 17:58
def - he'd be a great bet in a 12f hcap with 92, even though if gambino's rating is correct, that is its mark. There was a low class 12f hcap earlier on the card. The 75 rated winner carried 2lbs more that CH and ran nearly 5 secs slower.
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 18:10
talking about the raw figure he ran to, not what he'll get factoring in ease of victory
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 18:11
it's anybody's guess how much more there was if fully extended
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 18:13
dave1357 • February 23, 2026 5:58 PM GMT
def - he'd be a great bet in a 12f hcap with 92


agree but that wouldn't be his mark even if he had qualified for a mark
By:
dave1357
When: 23 Feb 26 18:32
thought he would get a mark for winning on flat debut?

Winning on Debut: If a horse wins its very first race (a maiden or novice event), the handicapper will assess that performance and assign an official rating immediately, allowing it to enter handicaps thereafter.
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 18:43
not sure where you have got that from because my understanding is it's 3 flat runs usually qualifies for a mark
unless a horse wins in which case 2 runs is usually sufficient
By:
wondersobright
When: 23 Feb 26 18:44
wins on either or both of 1st 2 starts
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 23 Feb 26 19:15
Always like, from a betting prospective, when a horse wins like CH did on Friday.
Most people will think he is capable of much more, meaning he will be over-bet wherever he runs next
By:
dave1357
When: 23 Feb 26 19:51
sorry, yes, it is two runs, google AI wrong again, said it was one if debut winner "according to BHA"
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Feb 26 21:14
from neckers 1st 2 runs i thort could easily be near a 100 horse..obv easy to be blindsided as its no where near.
By:
sageform
When: 23 Feb 26 21:22
Used to be any winner got a mark but the change is for the better. Hence thr number of Novice races for the second run. Bear in mind that Constitution Hill was getting weight from the placed horses on Friday.
By:
elise
When: 24 Feb 26 10:54
sq n  85 and gambino 83 on todays revisions as i read it unless i'm losing the plot
By:
wondersobright
When: 24 Feb 26 13:31
yes gambino 83 unchanged SN allocated 85
By:
elise
When: 24 Feb 26 13:41
you look pretty much spot on wonders
By:
penzance
When: 31 Mar 26 10:07
101 rating.
By:
differentdrum
When: 31 Mar 26 11:17
We know it isn't an exact science, but I am not sure he is better than mid 90's. He was race fit compared to the runner up, who was the only realistic opposition, and it is hard to believe that one was anywhere near the best of Balding.
By:
strontium
When: 31 Mar 26 12:33
101 seems high based on what he's actually done (though can understand the handicapper wanting to be cautious).
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 31 Mar 26 13:36
Horses must run three times on the Flat in order to qualify for a rating. However, a horse that wins on its debut is eligible for a handicap mark after its second start. Also, a horse that wins on its second start is eligible for a handicap rating to run in a Class 5 or 6 Handicap if the handicapper is prepared to allot a rating of 77 or below.
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