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Great quote to go with this thread in todays paper…
Hannon is very bullish (No I don’t believe it) seven won’t be a problem as he put up two of his best performances over this trip! I’m still gonna have a few bob on it but if he loses I’ll never touch another Hannon horse again and if he wins I’ll still never touch another Hannon horse again… Unless he says of his next stable star…it’s the best horse I’ve ever had , I’m happy with him , it can’t get beat , I wouldn’t swap him for anything , hes the best horse in the race , hes been aimed at this race for 3 years |
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Dano
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If Rosallion had been scratched from the Marois because of the ground then I'd back him on saturday even over 7f with/without the endorsement of his trainer. However, bad communication (and smirking) and dismissing the bruised foot as something totally innocuous and nothing to worry about I'm concerned to back him at 7/4. He's also been chinned 2x (when well) when he ought to have won one eg Sussex Stakes when Field Of Gold was lame.
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Our fellow is in great shape and I wouldn’t stand by another was a new one, impossible where’s your Bismark thread?
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My Bismarck thread is not on the front page due to very few contributors, I guess, despite some here are solely "layer".
I like Rosallion. I hope he wins an overdue Gp 1 this season. But, I'm not backing him unless he's the subject of a 'superboost'. |
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Super boost!
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"superboost" = risk immunity ie a free bet. I backed Arsenal against Man Utd for a fiver. I received 50 free spins for my custom --> 688p return.
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Impossible? Have you seen an article or on tv when you said he was smirking and bad communication if so that is worrying? Share did you see that mate?
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Sorry all hit the button three times as I thought it didn’t go through? What an edjit
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Ollie asked him on saturday about the horse's scratching from The Marois and his interview with Chapman. He did not seem perturbed or embarrassed, even grin (smirk to me). I thought he did not take the late scratching as punter unfriendly for backers who'd backed Rosallion on his interview with Chapman.
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Thanks Impossible I didn’t see that but that typifies the the guy no regards for punters what a joke he is getting…
Cheers Dano |
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Delashay • August 19, 2025 8:58 AM BST
I hadn’t seen the interview with Chaoman can anyone recall what day it was? There’s a video of Rosallion working the day before (Thursday the 14th) announcement was made. The horse was fine and Hannon seemed happy. Timmy Murphy was happy and the horse was due to ferry over on the Friday night. Published on 15 August 2025i Rosallion will be rerouted to the City Of York Stakes next Saturday, having been ruled out of Sunday's Prix Jacques le Marois with a bruised foot. Trainer Richard Hannon revealed on Friday night that last year's St James's Palace Stakes winner had sustained the injury this week and has been treated. He has not, however, recovered in time for a trip to France, where he was favourite for the mile Group 1 contest. Reporting like this the way that it’s worded makes it sound as though it was some time previously which is why I like many may have felt it was late to let people know. More details on when the injury occurred should have been made clear, knowing that there was a video from the day before released showing the colt to be fine. Telling Hannon says during the interview that he was a Group 1 winner at 2 the at 3 and we’d like it to be at Four. He mentioned that he’d face many good horses in France and I believe that the decision was made to try to take in a potentially weaker race to secure that Group 1. I can’t and am not saying that a bruised foot didn’t occur after the video of him working. The reports are too vague to confirm that, so better journalism please. I do however think that by reading between the lines they are desperate for that Group 1 win at Four whatever the distance. |
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Delashay • August 19, 2025 9:14 AM BST
The video was shot on Wednesday released on Thursday said stone bruise could have occurred then, fact remains the Delashay • August 19, 2025 9:14 AM BST The video was shot on Wednesday released on Thursday said stone bruise could have occurred then, fact remains the report was vague. It’s simple to clear up - you ask him when the bruise occurred. Terrible reporting. |
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]Delashay • August 19, 2025 9:08 AM BST
So has there been a dip in confidence to opt for an easier looking race within the camp? Those backing at short odds should contemplate that. |
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If people don’t believe that the colt suffered a stone bruise then they are pot hunting for a G1 in an easier looking race.
The video was long and the only other thing I learnt was he likes shopping for chocolate, Ralph Lauren shirts and Hermes for ties, but not at the moment as, “They are too thin!”  |
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Shopping in Deauville for those!
Missing the race gives him more than the 18 days that was between races and the sectional bods did that he put in a big effort. All could be reasons why the race could have been ducked. |
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This subject has become exceptionally tedious, even boring. Why anyone bets ante-post, on one single entrant, just defeats me anyway, but worse, why anybody can take the idle chatter of another person - whatever connection he may have with the intended bet - as a certain basis on which to risk their hard-earned cash on the basis of that idle chatter, is just mind-blowing in its stupidity.
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Totally agree LoyalHoncho
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It’s the lure of bigger odds, greed can do that. Not everyone goes for 1.01 and the thought of being clever, spotting something that others have missed.
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Thing is and I’ll say again the reporting is amateurish. There would BE NO convo to be had or suspicion if things were done in the correct manner.
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And as for Anti post it seems there’s only a couple who play that way publicly. You could get good odds, most odds are squeezed to truck now.
After Maki won the Guineas at 33/1 any French colt that was mentioned for Newmarket was put in at 14/1 16/1 I got 16/1 Dolyniya for the Sheena Classic asked the manger to phone up and quote me because I’d read she was going. Won at 7’s they screwed up.  |
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Maki never won the Guineas, Makfi did and was never available Anti post!!
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Oh dear a mistype, ordinarily I wouldn’t entertain talking to you, but would you like to bet that?
That odds of 100/1 for Makfi in the 2000 Guineas were available ante post were available before he won the Prix Debel?  |
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And that after he strolled that 66/1 was readily available?
On the day went off at 33/1. |
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I don't mind a bet that it was Ante Post as opposed to Anti Post?
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Plenty of us filled our boots and kept on filling them!
Sir Peter O'Sullevan was seen lumping on famously - anyone recall that story? |
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Even that no horse called Dolyniya won the Sheema Classic if you desire?
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No need to be pedantic so that you have someone to talk to!
Dolniya (FR) Age: 4 (Foaled April 5th, 2011) Sex: Bay Filly Breeding: Azamour (IRE) - Daltama (IRE) (Indian Ridge (IRE)) Trainer: A De Royer Dupre Owner: H H Aga Khan The trouble with Anti post is that they don’t put up the markets when they should. You could get a bet on for Chelts Gold Cup next year or the 2000 guineas next year before the Ascot Champion’s races were priced up for example. You couldn’t even bet at York for the first day a couple of days ago because the markets weren’t up!  |
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The “trouble” with ante-posts is that they exist. Unless it’s a group activity like the Open or the Greyhound Derby, where you are looking to trade out/green up as it goes along it is for the birds. imo.
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No market up when there ought to be. This is why a radical change in the policy governing the betting industry is an absolute must; the present ones are non-plus about making a book. They are only interested in fobt and casino games.
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He just stood there and said to Chapman that there was nothing wrong with him the last day.
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I'm on Rosallion at 7/4 on saturday...for the price and long overdue Gp 1 this season. Maybe life is too short given horseracing is only a game to most.
I picked Song Of The Clyde; I used a pin. Why not? Some gold miners use a couple of bent wires to try and pinpoint where the gold might be. |
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That’s one of your best Impossible!
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Bullet Point as well. I'm guaranteed 5 free spins with 2 winners already.
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How much is this pin up for? Is postage free?
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Thought that Hannon’s remark yesterday showed total contempt and he was on on the mace big time saying what he did. They bottled the race in France and are as said before desperate to win a G1 this year.
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Since I put up this thread on Hannon it’s been quite a talking point and great to read all the comments…
I’m really wary of Hannon now and I just don’t trust him he’s just not genuine and the stat that his strike rate is 11% which I still find that unbelievable as he’s had the best horses in the world and they can’t be beat… But I’ve always liked Rosie he owes me nothing and whatever happens I’m still sticking with my bet of £100 which I’m being honest I’ve never put £100 on a horse in my natural and I’m in my 70s… So I’m going for it and will see what the best price is tomorrow morning but after the great feedback from everyone I will probably never trust Hannon again no matter what the result will be tomorrow? Thanks again everyone for the input and what will be will be… |