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And if giving and sharing info is an alternative fact I’m not sure I’m read correctly?
You’d said that you don’t know if Sosie would like the Ground. I shared info to the contrary of that general opinion which is held for all French horses. I also tried telling people that I smelt a rat re: Lion after the Dante, simply because I smelt a rat and don’t like people doing their dough. Enjoy the rest of the season, it’s flying by sadly and will be a long wait until the next flat. |
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Delashay • June 29, 2025 5:20 PM BST
Shackleton Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 DELACROIX IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 kg ISAMBARD BRUNEL USA M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg PUPPET MASTER IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 kg SARATOGA IRE M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg SERIOUS CONTENDER IRE M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg ROCK OF CASHEL IRE M.PS. 3 a. 58 k SCANDINAVIA USA M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg SWAGMAN GER M.PS. 3 A. 58 kg * THE LION IN WINTER IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 kg ** EVOLUTION IRE M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg *** Galveston Gb M.ps. 3 A. 58 kg *** LAMBOURN IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 kg * ROOSEVELT GB M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg ** TRINITY COLLEGE IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 kg *** LIGHT AS AIR IRE M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg *** GENEALOGY GB M.PS. 3 a. 58 kg * Acapulco Bay Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 kg ** Aftermath Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 kg *** Ballet Slippers Ire F.ps. 3 A. 56,5 kg 47.0 Perhaps the last entry is the biggest surprise. Don’t recall him ever doing that! Puppet Master’s run and ride looked very much in need and Trinty has run in France before. |
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Five left in the GPDP 3 from AoB
Trinity College Puppet Master Galveston Uther Frankly Good Cen New Ground |
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This was mentioned in the context for the French race this weekend also.
Delashay • June 29, 2025 5:07 PM BST And unless we believe that the LION is the number 1 still then the gate is open to Trinity Collage. So they both show, Puppet Master 20/1 I believe to be their Leger Horse but we’ll see. |
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Trinity College is being clipped into 12/1 for the King George all round with Calandagan hardening as Fav.
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From post - Jan Brueghel to spearhead Ballydoyle's King George team - and Aidan O'Brien says high-profile three-year-olds could join the party
Saying that Lambourn could also turn up… |
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Lambourn would have the same chance of making the King George at Kempton on Boxing Day as the King George at Ascot on 26th July. AOB was clearly bookie-talking!
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That was your banker race Impossible wasn’t it? I recall you saying after some non runners and the flat boring you that you’d retreat to eggs all in one basket for the Boxing Day race!
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You never did say who your banker was?
Nice to see a bit of humor by the way!  |
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If I was Coolmore I would run Lambourn unless I was really confident that one of my other candidates would beat him.
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I would too if the horse is well, hes strong and 11lb is a lot to concede to him. If I’ve got the weight right? There’s one tiny doubt.
He’s being talked of as a Leger winner and the current fav is a Leger winner! - what is there to fear? Impossible loves Jan Brugel (that’s fair to say Imp isn’t it? |
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I’d written this to Impossible from the Arc AP thread.
Delashay • July 10, 2025 11:00 AM BST It could well be Impossible but you can see why they would trim him, the race looks like cutting up. As for Lambourn being btn 2¼L Delacroix over 1m 2f doesn’t look so bad now after the Eclipse. Rulling Court our Guineas winner was beaten 2L Camillie Pisarro 2 1/4L In the Eclipse. Dual Group 1 winners. It shows his run over a trip too short (seen as a Leger horse and current Fav) in a different light. As Tom Seagul said (for himself as in “We” - as my mind was open) ,“ We wrote off the Classic generation too early - now they're starting to show what they can do…” The warning came not so much with Whirl winning but with Windlord thumping CheckandChallenge the day before the Eclipse. I have thoughts on him (Lambourn) Loyal Hocho raised a good point here also. |
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No one’s been able to say why an old boat (which seems the perception of Lambourn) was able to get so close to an Eclipse winner over an inadequate trip?
I’m not a huge fan of the horse it must be said and am playing devil’s advocate slightly, his, name, his breeding isn’t sexy, nor his run style, as said here too - but I’m wary of tagging him as an out and out plodder. For me Jan Bruelgal was ridden to beat Calandgan, the latter broke his group 1 duck last time in a weak race. The filly Aventure was his main rival. Here he’ll take on colts and have to give them weight yet he isn’t a shatbrickhouse himself. Cumani has never been impressed with his stature and she’s been surprised by his engine. |
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On Calandagan re King George
Increased race-fitness, a better understanding between the horse and his new rider, an understanding of how Ballydoyle's tactics exploited his tendency to start slowly at Epsom and a quicker surface were all pointed to as reasons to be optimistic. Given just half a length separated the pair at Epsom, any one of them could be enough. |
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Somewhat over the top impossible. Time will tell I suppose but for me they should forget everything bar the St Leger for Lambourn.
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LH, is that because you don't rate this years 3yo stayers. Lambourn is clearly the best of those.
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I do not have a banker for the King George at Kempton. However, I do like Fact To File. I think he's made for the race. He was outstayed by Galopin Des Champs, and unlikely to usurp Inothewayurthinkin either in the Gold Cup.
As for the King George & QE2 at Ascot I like Jan Brueghel as I firmly believe he's AOB's best 12f horse. But, he's quirky and needs strong handling. I also think he's the best of theirs for The Arc at Longchamp. Bankers? Both are not. |
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Impossible, you were putting him up as their gold cup
Horse after ascot?? Hmmmm?? |
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Sry sage, don’t quite get your point.
Mine is that I don’t see him winning below 12f or a King George and feel stamina is his main asset. Could be wrong of course. |