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Irish derby 16.10 curragh
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The hotpot had to dig deep to win from his stablemate only ran 10 days ago in a handicap. Well done backers of 6/4 and 5/4. A bunch of non-effectuals?
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Great call foyles
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Lambourn will go down as one of the great on the muscle 2 wide whole way , most horses fall in hole and then his battling capacity , on even softer ground he is machine, Lambourn far better horse than last derby winner totally overated , Lambourn is far superior
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Thank you.
That h'cap form is decent at RA |
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Great stuff Foyles. I got 4.7 for a place on Serious Contender.
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Well done 'FOYLESWAR'. Very nearly caused an upset. His jockey tried, just held.
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Just had a bit ew on Merchant for the St Leger at 20/1 while it still lasts.
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sorry
PRIDE OF ARRIS, if was rossa i wouldnt be worried about horses from other yds finishing in front of him, but how many in becketts yard would beat him |
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Well done Foyles. Good ew call.
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Royal ascot handicap form has stood the test of time
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surely merchant must be a serious KG contender
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even if a beaten handicapper 10 days ago could have went by,would the jock have let him go by ?
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Aiden just said then after naming the entire staff at ballydoyle they thought they were been clever at royal ascot but someone was more clever.
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Tough effort from the favourite. Possibly best of an ordinary crop.
With that in mind will they have a pop with Merchant? Was 40/1. Can't see there is much to lose. |
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...Because I don't have the prowess of FOYLESWAR & co, I have to stick to piling onto favoutites in Group/Grade 1 races.
I had a chunky four figure sum on Lambourn at 1.89 this morning...........now I'm sitting here with my bloomers slightly soiled ! Ryan Moore is so strong when he wants to be....lifted that one home. |
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Lazy Griff horse for the Leger Jimnast+
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wello done richgit and other winners ,crossbar again but some nice ew and places bets landed and a short keep lay ,hit the crossbar in midweek 2nd and 3rd to a Becket fav in same race 33/1 both of em some nice place bets but ya want the winner s,happens ,not after timing its on my blog .serious contender proved to be just that looked like it might get up but fav and Ryan too strong ,yeah it was a handicap but it was a serious handicap and on a line through serious contender merchant comes out very close to lambourne .not that it always works out like that .
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1st time poster 29 Jun 25 16:22
sorry PRIDE OF ARRIS, if was rossa i wouldnt be worried about horses from other yds finishing in front of him, but how many in becketts yard would beat him They got the tactics absolutely spot on, got the 'rag' / stablemate to hold the rail and soften Lambourn up by keeping him honest up front. So a mighty peformance from Lambourn, considering he had to sprint for the first two furlongs to get into that 2-wide position. |
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Either Bet 365 have fallen asleep or they have a hotline to the Haggas stable. Still 40/1 when everyone else is half that price.
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My thoughts too George. Time looks very fast to back it up.
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johnsons slow boats are always st leger horse till the day and they arnt, he,s always going to fall prey to AOB battilions running the race to suit their horses get outpaced at some point and finish strongly but never getting there, been suckered into backing far to many in the past
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Haggas may well avoid the older horses in the KG with Merchant and target the Melrose at York then the St Leger.
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Thanks FOYLES....nothing clever about my betting though.......I more or less stick to Grade/Group 1 races, ( don't trust any other races too much ), and then back a shortie to win, or a bigger price to place.
The next one I'm eyeing up is Field of Gold on its next outing ...I'll be equipped with clean bloomers for the occassion. |
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Bit harsh calling it a slow boat.
2nd in Derby and 3rd in Irish Derby. (Bet everyone on here wish they had bought into the syndicate) Think it could get placed in Leger again, but if Lambourn goes for it then i think its place only. Looks a stayer and also a battler and finds that bit more when needed. |
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In retrospect ( and how good are we all with hindsight ) I think that’s as good a ride as Moore has given any Gp1 winner.
As you say GEORGE he made the decision early to use up a fair proportion of the horse’s energy ( always a risk ) to get him up to the front where he more or less dictated the race to his liking then, pulled out more from the winner, under extreme pressure at the end. Brilliant bit of riding really. |
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Lazy Griff gives credence to the form beaten in both Derbys by 3L
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That is one tough horse and you seriously have to wonder why they ran it? Did he shock them a little today?
On that run he’d of been in the top 3 for the GPDP on July 13th. |
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Yep. Tennessee franks it too.
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Looked at the entries for that…
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And unless we believe that the LION is the number 1 still then the gate is open to Trinity Collage.
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True say Loyal.
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Anyone still in doubt that Lambourn wasn’t EVER their numero uno?
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top notch foyles great stuff
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The Derby, more like 1 mile 4 premier flat bumper
Winner and 3rd were first off it, winner is a boat, never Win an Arc, not quick enough, 3rd wants 2 miles already. Winner packed off to stud, jump sire, 20k for 5 yesrs 125 plus mares a year. Thank you |
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moore said might not have looked like it but race was never in doubt
a 50,s rag ran all over it for 9 furlongs never off the snaff and only beaten 3lengths at the line in 5th |
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100% 1TP, second beat off 92 at ascot, thé two pacemakers
Beat 4 and 7, some what bunched up, which Is strange, given the pace?? All they all just slow, and just plodded on? |
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1st time poster 30 Jun 25 08:09
moore said might not have looked like it but race was never in doubt a 50,s rag ran all over it for 9 furlongs never off the snaff and only beaten 3lengths at the line in 5th I referred to him as a 'rag' too, but I wouldn't want to disrespect Sir Dinadan, because I thought that was a good run round Goodwood the time before when finishing second, where he went a decent clip, and although he was ultimately no match for the winner, that was his stablemate Amiloc, who remains unbeaten after winning the 12f G2 at Ascot, but he had the others well beaten off. |
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I don't get where the great ride comes in. If I remember Lordan rode the horse more vigourously early on at Epsom. It looks a very straightforward horse who stays very well so always likely he will be better suited being ridden to exploit the stamina angle. He probably didn't get the best of rides at Chester.
Bit of hope for Merchant backers - in to 16/1 with Bet 365 - maybe they were asleep? I can see Highclere being keen with Haggas the possible stumbling block, but why even bother with the entry if you aren't going to use it? When they entered it was pure speculation, but there is now a suggestion that he could be very close to the best of the 3yo's. He could bomb out, but they will at least know where they are at the moment. With that extra experience he could still progress through this season, and then have another crack next year. Why settle for lesser races when you could actually be ahead of that level? |
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He didn’t ride the horse with any vigour at Epsom
Until Turing In, thé horse ran along in his hands As nothing was there to pressure It, horse had it’s Ears pricked until Lordan, started pushing 3 1/2 out |