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By:
CagliariG
When: 28 May 25 20:02
3.5 lb & 4lb roughly swifty, rainbow and steelhead!!
By:
swiftynifty
When: 28 May 25 20:03
good catch.
By:
CagliariG
When: 28 May 25 20:09


Just in case Rico got the wrong species and Continent!! lol
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 28 May 25 21:04
Steelhead seems appropriate.
By:
1st time poster
When: 29 May 25 09:01
local businessmen .3 kids ,living in nice detached house, driving wife's car ,neighbours shocked, not as shocked AS BEN HABIB is going to be,maybe the family might invite HABIB round to tell him normal white people to crazy things ,same as brown,black Muslim people
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 09:55
The 53-year-old suspect is reported to have completed triathlons, climbed Kilimanjaro and lives in a detached suburban home.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 10:03
"It is understood a flat-bed truck, which had been blocking the road at the junction of Rumford Street, had been moved by private contractors to let emergency services through to a treat a member of the public having a suspected heart attack."

So it was private contractors in charge of who got through not the police ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 29 May 25 10:26
of course local business man could mean
local drug dealer
gym owner
protection etc,etc
exclusive estate where no one thinks a family man of 3 failing a drive/drug test is perfectly normal behaviour
triathlete could mean steroids/performance enhancing drugs etc
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 10:35
howard28 May 25 17:14Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 15,174 | Blogger: howard's blog
About time they named this bloke. Others peoples names and photos are apparently being posted while they are out at work etc.


What's your logic here? With the police already having had to release the nationality & ethnicity to head-off one baying mob of racists on the internet. They should now also immediately name people to prevent another internet-based mob of half-wits from spreading lies and misinformation?.

Maybe just scrap the justice system and replace it with a public vote on Facebook & Twitter. Hold the vote the day after the incident before any investigation is complete to ensure that all the voters don't know any "facts" apart from the ones they have gleaned from Social Media. Maybe restrict jury service to only people with more than 100k "followers".

It's always fascinating to know what Brenda (an unemployed beauty technician from Essex) thinks on Twitter - and I could never make up my own mind on what is going on in the world without hearing from John (a part-time Tarot Card Reader from Lincoln) has got to say on Facebook. And of course a special mention to Acefraud a medically retired lorry driver and part-time clown from Perth for keeping the Betfair Forum updated on the "facts" and his views.

Of course, the other option is to arrest and charge the people using Social Media to put false names in the frame and also pursue the Social Media companies that are allowing them to do it.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 10:36
woody allen film " what's your husband do anyway ? "       " Bookmaking Loan Sharking Extortion "      " Oh a professional man "
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 10:40
Acefraud a medically retired lorry driver and part-time clown from Perth for keeping the Betfair Forum updated on the "facts" and his views.  Laugh
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 10:55
It's not dissimilar to when that poor woman from Lancashire went missing. The police didn't share every (quite rightly) private detail with the internet based baying mob of amateur detectives, thus preventing the public from solving the case (as is their job and of course their "right")!

This created a "void" - which naturally forced Tracey (a part-time Medium and self-proclaimed "body language expert") to proclaim that it was the husband wot dun it! CryLaugh

Utterly pathetic.
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 11:00
Then in the inquiry afterwards into how the police managed the situation - it's deemed that rather than arrest and charge "Tracey" (etc) or pursue the Social Media companies that facilitated her and all the other half-wits - in future, the police need provide "Tracey" (etc) with more information, so that she can make a much more educated guess at what happened. Madness.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 11:05
"The police didn't share every (quite rightly) private detail"  The police didn't give out what they should have done.  She was a vulnerable person. This lack of basic info made it a 24/7 news story.
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 11:07
And the public (Tracey the self-proclaimed "body language expert", etc) - she needed to know this because?????
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 11:08
John (the part Time Tarot Card reader) from 300 miles away - he needed to know that because?????
By:
1st time poster
When: 29 May 25 11:09
but if a slippery lawyer gets him off for pp.od not following procedures ,its not tinternet who get the blame
daily mail front page  basically forcing the police to name him,if he has a foreign sounding name the TIN FOIL POINTY HAT BRIGADE WILL BE OFF AGAIN, their ready to clingon to anything,if he hasn't got pure Scouse blood in him ,it,ll all be starmmer,s fault
By:
formoftheace
When: 29 May 25 11:19
howard 29 May 25 10:40 
Acefraud a medically retired lorry driver and part-time clown from Perth for keeping the Betfair Forum updated on the "facts" and his views.  Laugh

Einstein give you a wee @rgasm there Howard ? Lol ffs

Einstein will lead the way…..ffs…..a pompous pr!k who’s probably had many a slap….
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 11:22
TM if it's known a vulnerable person is involved the story has a few lines on page 7. No experts /card readers in the papers. The police strung everyone along so  filling every tv news programme with the latest about a normal happy dog walking woman. She was far from that.
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 11:43
If you think it was the papers and not Social Media that fuelled all that frenzy & chaos you are delusional.

For sure (being a pretty blonde girl), she caught the imagination of the public more than an alternative demographic might have done - but the papers weren't speculating that the husband or the sister had done it.

They were trying to sell papers for sure - but only by reporting the known facts. Qualified journalists have every right (it's their job) to be reporting - wtf has it got to do with the 100's and 1000's of unqualified
half-wits (desperate for "likes") that were travelling hundreds of miles to trample all over the potential crime scene and just make stuff up?

Eventually (if unchecked) this is gonna have an detrimental impact on future cases. You can see the scenario where instead of 100 officers being assigned to search and investigate, only 50 will be deployed and another 50 will have to manage comms and try to contol/combat social media.

Who did the police "string along" ffs - everybody that needed to know that she was "vulnerable" would have known. Brenda from Lincolnshire didn't need to know - it had FA to do with her, it was none of her business and she wasn't part of the investigation!
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 11:48
As for you F4rty, The 3rd post on this thread is from you ( a truly open-minded and deep thinker), just one word:

Origin?

Very revealing. Just one word but it sums you up nicely and the way your mind works imo. This investigation probably isn't terribly resource hungry - but still a load of valuable police resources are gonna be wasted, trying to placate narrow minded half-wits like you via a Social Media strategy and and a massive comms team.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 12:04
" everybody that needed to know that she was "vulnerable" would have known"    I didn't know. The public didn't know. You are likely  a "lover" of the British police and a "hater" of other sections of society. The police just had to use that one word and the story would not have taken off anywhere.  Why ?  Because 99% of people are not interested  in stories about  vulnerable people. If  reporters ask the police in what way was she vulnerable they could have said " no further info "    If you think social media would then have then taken off the way it did I strongly disagree.
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 12:05
You could have asked, Does anybody know how many dead? Anybody know how many injured?
You could have stated... how awful, what a tragedy, what a nightmare for the relatives, etc, etc.

But no, you don't give a sh1t about any of that, the first thought, the first thing that leapt into your tiny mind was:

Origin?

Like I said - very revealing.
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 12:15
Howard - you've put some words in my mouth there, I'm no "lover of the police". They're just people, so like all people some of them are probably brilliant, others are probably a bit hopeless, some good, some bad etc, etc.

But when a crime is committed or suspected, Im probably still going to call them to investigate, rather than Brenda from Lincolnshire. And if it's a crime that's nothing to do with me, I'm probably not interested in premature updates anyway- but if I do want updates, I'll probably rely on them for my updates rather than Trevor on Facebook.

I don't hate Brenda or Trevor - I just don't think they've got a role to play in providing me with updates or investigating crimes or naming suspects.
By:
Hayden
When: 29 May 25 12:25
Still can't fathom as to why the full identity of the person needs releasing at this stage , why would joe public need to know that ?

Just one valid reason of holding it back would be to protect his potential unassuming family from revenge seekers.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 12:28
You seem to like listening to people like Gaze on here and giving lengthy replies. Correct ? What exactly does that say about you ?   btw I didn't say you WERE  a lover of the police therefore I didn't put words into your mouth.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 12:34
Hayden yes we don't need to know. I know we don't have to read stuff but at the moment all we are getting is that this guy is a lovely hard working family man.  I would like to know if anyone thinks he's an arrogant drug taking bully .  Devil
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 12:35
howard29 May 25 12:04Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 15,180 | Blogger: howard's blog
You are likely  a "lover" of the British police


howard29 May 25 12:28Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 15,180 | Blogger: howard's blog
btw I didn't say you WERE  a lover of the police therefore I didn't put words into your mouth.


Laugh you've pretty much summed up how Social Media works there.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 12:39
the Gaze question ?
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 12:43
You get to say whatever you like with no accountability whatsoever - then you get to weasel your way out of it or pretend you didn't say it, when faced with the reality or challenged.

Great stuff and a highly productive use of everybody's time. It's a good job nobody important like politicians, PM's, Presidents, etc is engaging in this nonsense otherwise everybody would be too busy talking sh1te on the internet, instead of doing their actual jobs.
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 12:51
howard29 May 25 12:39Joined: 09 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 15,182 | Blogger: howard's blog
the Gaze question ?


Just another half-wit but (knowingly or not) he raised a few interesting topics imo - probably a wind-up merchant but his topics were always betting/gambling related. I don't remember him ever using this platform to speculate or make false allegations about a crime. I'm happy to talk with anybody about betting/gambling on a gambling forum. I've even been known to reply to some of the monosyllabic sh1te that Aceform manages to occasionally post about racing/betting.
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 12:54
You get to say whatever you like and are always 100% right. Helps if you're talking to Gaze though. Good move. Grin
By:
The Management
When: 29 May 25 12:58
Good effort at changing the topic though.

I'm off to mow a lawn now - so good luck with your crusade to get the police to bow to the baying mob on the internet. I'm sure you can persuade the nasty establishment that everybody with a keyboard has a god-given right to to know the in's & out's of every investigation, in a time-scale that is most convenient to them and in a way that will best assist them with their own enquiries.
By:
formoftheace
When: 29 May 25 13:04
The Management 29 May 25 11:48 
As for you F4rty, The 3rd post on this thread is from you ( a truly open-minded and deep thinker), just one word:

Origin?

Very revealing. Just one word but it sums you up nicely and the way your mind works imo. This investigation probably isn't terribly resource hungry - but still a load of valuable police resources are gonna be wasted, trying to placate narrow minded half-wits like you via a Social Media strategy and and a massive comms team.

Obviously the first thing that most people would think Einstein,,,,looking back at Europe over the years…

Vehicles and innocent pedestrians…..
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 13:06
Wasn't what I pulled the police on. You are expanding it massively from what I said. One word from them "vulnerable " was all that was needed. I'm confident 95% of the public ( & mainstream media ) would agree with me certainly a large majority.
By:
formoftheace
When: 29 May 25 13:10
The Management 29 May 25 12:05 
You could have asked, Does anybody know how many dead? Anybody know how many injured?
You could have stated... how awful, what a tragedy, what a nightmare for the relatives, etc, etc.

But no, you don't give a sh1t about any of that, the first thought, the first thing that leapt into your tiny mind was:

Origin?

Like I said - very revealing.

Ffs….the manner of a wild hog…..you remind me of a bullying vomit inducing old headmaster who thought he owned the school and everything else,including the kids…..
By:
formoftheace
When: 29 May 25 13:13
Be careful not to fall in front of the mower ffs…..how would the forum survive….
By:
howard
When: 29 May 25 13:13
"probably had many a slap…."     could well be the most accurate comment on the thread formy
By:
formoftheace
When: 29 May 25 13:17
I could imagine it sitting round the conference table stuffed with coffee and anything that looks edible…

People giving the vacant stare…..
By:
mitolo
When: 29 May 25 13:30
The Management Joined: 27 Dec 00
Replies: 1155527 May 25 15:54 
A spokesman for the Deform Party has disappointedly confirmed that the man arrested is British and White - but wanted to stress that there are still unconfirmed rumours that the arrested man had been known to listen to Reggae music'



why post that? aside from being irrelevant(like a lot of your rambles)its offensive to those physically handicapped or who have a growth abnormality

in your world anyone who doesnt share your ill-thought out adherence to contemporary received opinion has to be a racist idiot. you see hatred where it isnt and ignore it when it is real and present

and nobody should mow a lawn. leave the thing alone unless you plan on playing bowls
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