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Constitution Hill, Aintree hurdle today. Win or lose ?
Constitution Hill, Aintree hurdle today. Win or lose ?
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If a thousand idiots say the same thing,does it make them correct?
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uptheirons
Well said! |
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By the way,some of the comments made to Nico after the fall by some mindless racegoers were deplorable
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If the hurdles at punchestown will suit Constitution Hill better maybe its owner would consider switching the horse to be trained in Ireland instead. I'll not miss him not running in the Uk until Cheltenham of Aintree. The trials are more competitive in Ireland too.
With hindsight I wonder if Hendo regrets running Constitution Hill at Aintree instead of giving him more time to recover from the fall at Cheltenham and head straight to Punchestown? I've this niggly feeling this is one wrong decision after another. |
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Hendo clearly has much to learn from implausible
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It only takes two on here to convince 1st TP and Impossible i.e each other. FWIW NH did not blame the hurdles, he merely stated that CH had not been beaten by another horse but by the hurdles, intimating that his low jumping style caught him out which seems to be the case tbh?
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One thing that is undeniable concerning the whole Constitution Hill...and I think we can best describe it as "saga" through the last few years is that there is always something.....
The one thing missing is a string of race course performances that for one reason or another do not leave more questions than answers..... and on we go... |
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Hardly a secret that the horse has had health issues duffy.
Punchestown will tell us if he retains his ability. As always,the price will dictate whether I back it but at evens or bigger I will happily pay to find out |
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He's probably only evens to even run there.
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Istabraq fell twice in his career, both times at Leopardstown and he was one of the slickest hurdlers I have seen, can happen to the best of them.
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Punchestown Champion Hurdle - (Antepost Paddy Power)
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 2 Places 5/4 State Man 13/8 Chill 3/1 Lossie 5/1 Brighter 12/1 Golden 50/1 Winter Can be forgiven for over 5% a runner i suppose at this stage  |
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No contest if CH turns up and stays up imo.
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I pray to see a lunatic putting those prices up on the day
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If all them turned up Hayden id love to lay Sate Man @ 5/4.
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If all those turn up SM will be at least 5/1 let alone 5/4.
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I'd make CH 5/4 to turn up; 1/1 to not complete; 7/4 to win. I'll make SM 2/1 if everyone turns up.
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How much are you willing to lay the first and 3rd quoted Impossible?
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When pricing this race up, for a variety of reasons you've got to, for the most part completely ignore this year's CH and price it on what we'd seen going into that race.
It was run modestly, completely at odds with what we expected but suiting SM who was able to pootle through the race with no pressure being applied to him, CH who would have appreciated it too checked out early but nothing suggests he wouldn't have won the race under these conditions and BDA absolutely never turned up but couldn't win unless able to compete in a race run at an end to end gallop hoping to burn the quickies late on off and Lossie wasn't even there. A lot will depend once again on the participation of BDA and in doing so how she operates through the race and the level of pace she is able to put into it. |
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I said before the Champion Hurdle that I thought the BDA performance against State Man was a " Harbinger " type result and nothing during the race can persuade me otherwise i.e it was a one off, reasons unknown but obviously freakish?
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hendo said in an interview on tv that the hurdles at punch would suit CH better, and then said NICO agreed with that ,no ones putting words in his mouth
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You said he blamed the hurdles 1st TP, saying the Punchestown ones would suit better does not suggest he blamed hurdles for the falls, does it?
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said the hurdles at punch would suit him better,if that isn't blaming the hurdles at aintree or in UK,WHAT DOES IT MEAN ?
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Punchestown:
State Man 5/4 Constitution Hill 13/8 (from 2/1) Lossiemouth 3/1 Brighterdaysahead 5/1 Golden Ace 12/1 Winter Fog 66/1 |
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No point in semantics 1st TP, you just carry on with your incorrect interpretation of an Intelligent trainers comment.
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Sometimes what works for a horse does not work for another. Sometimes one needs to think outside the box to not make the same mistake repeatedly.
CH has been mollycoddled. Now, post two successive falls Hendo wants to go to Punchestown after rushing CH for Aintree. Bizarre! |
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Rushing CH for Aintree? The horse barely had a race when it came down at Cheltenham.
Punchestown is the perfect opportunity for the horse to redeem itself subject to the ground not being like a paved road |
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Constitutio Hill has gone from Hero to Zero in my book.....Never to be trusted....Not the Superhero i thought he was going to be.
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It may be best to see CH run and complete the race before abandoning ship Acey
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The rats have already left the Ship up the irons.
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I am already looking for the next Wonderhorse.
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Brilliant by Nicky,
People having never sat on a horse,telling me how to do it. Nicky,just get nico to sit on the horse,that might work. |
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A padded cell awaits you at Rampton
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remove the padding
and chuck in 1stimepoofter and unbearable |
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The issues I've with Hendo are:-
(1) he overthinks (2) he waffles (usually for the benefit of bookies) (3) he mollycoddles (horse and jockey) Just keep it simple. It's only horseracing. If anything is not to be, it's not to be. C'est la vie. |
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Hendo clearly has much to learn from implausible and slidingdowntheslope
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Nico getting a lot of stick from X Jockey Fran Berry....Says he lacks any tactical nous.....Says he who got the boot from Ralph Beckett after barely a Season.
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None of us know what the horses are thinking but it would not be at all surprising if they get bored sometimes and lose concentration. In my view CH fell on both occasions when his view of the hurdles was not as good as it should have been. If he was mine I would ask the rider to ensure that he gets a clear view of every obstacle with the right signals to get him to concentrate. If they all turn up at Punchestown on good/soft then it is still a very open contest but I was not at all impressed by BDA at Cheltenham. For me a peak form CH should win from either State Man or Golden Ace. I share the view of Jeremy Scott that State Man went very early at Cheltenham and was no certainty even if he had finished but there is no hill at Punchestown.
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Morning sage, I wouldn't disagree with any of your comments, except for CHills nearly fall at the last at Cheltenham , where he was in front and had a clear view of the hurdle.
It could so easily be three FFF , not 2 of them ! To me he would burn this opposition off from the front, over 2m. I think nico was conserving energy at Aintree as 2m4f is probably stretching him, but over 2 miles no such worry. He can eat BDA , stateman and the mare and not break sweat. The horse has gears and was only cantering both times he hit the deck. Most frustrating but he lives to fight another day. Hopefully he has learnt from his mistakes .. If he jumps he wins, surely ? . |
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Perhaps he was not being given the right signal even though he was in front. Complacency by horse or rider or both? He might be different class to the rest but he still has to race properly and not doss about.
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