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In Running at a new level this week.
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Time to hang up your mouse then, Rico?
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In-play prices are then generated from the GPS data by RMG’s pricing partner Pythia Sports and served to bookmakers via the Press Association.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- how the hell will jamee explain this news ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- james ? not going to comment on this ? seen you on at least 2 occasions telling Mr.Hunt he was wrong... well would you believe it he was right all along. |
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Back (Bet For) Odds Stake Profit Flash Gorcombe 1.24 £2,500.00 £603.55 Total stake: £2,500.00 jussed wait a a descent foto...  |
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If i was Jamee i'd say nothing on the topic and keep what he knows to himself.
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Rico relentless on the photo's
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Your balls are twice as big as mine, Rico.
Flash Gorcombe *1.28 1,100.00 Back 11-Apr-24 15:23 311.13 |
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I remember reading the article at the time. The in-house bots have been using GPS to make the market for many years, the problem with in-running now is that all the casual money has dried-up because they have been restricted by affordability checks or they have given up trying to compete against the GPS bots and the drones, leading to pathetic levels of liquidity.
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i generally find it's more interesting to listen to what folk DON'T say as opposed to what they DO say...
james has just confirmed that. |
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oh it's a great find Jack...
i'm very grateful you remembered it tbh. |
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do you have a link to the article at all Jack ?
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Jack Bauer "24" • April 11, 2024 2:54 PM BST
There is some misinformation on this thread. This article about RMG is from a year ago. https://www.racecoursemediagroup.com/news/blog/racecourse-media-groups-innovative-new-in-play-betting-service-welcomed-by-bookmakers/ |
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surprised you haven't commented james...
considering you poo poo'd Mr.Hunt a couple of times... looks a bit silly tbh... is Hayden your advice guru now ? |
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Jamee certainly doesn't need any advice from me Hibby , was just commenting that if i knew everything he knew about this topic i'd not be posting on a public forum i'd be keeping it all to myself.
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jamee1 • April 11, 2024 11:07 AM BST
Will add that GPS is not yet readily available on RMG tracks... Sorry Hibs, it's been a little bit busy this afternoon, you may have noticed? I stand by what I said, that GPS is not readily available on RMG tracks. To believe that RMG GPS bookmaker data is affecting Exchange prices you have to believe that either Betfair use it to play in their own markets, or that 3rd parties are getting hold of this data with a latency of less than 500m/s to beat the drone. To me this seems unlikely until it is being sold via API like TPD do with ARC track data today. But, of course, none of us really know, we just have a view. Either way, Swifty summarised it best for me, with a very pragmatic "It is what it is". At the end of the day it matters not what causes the prevailing conditions, but whether one can trade successfully within them. |
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and if Betfair were using this on the exchange what would your view be james ?
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I repeat, its time to ban or restrict in running on horse racing?
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so whatever goes on on the exchange james view is...
it is what is is ? |
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Celtic lose the league due to a dodgy last minute penalty...?
it is what it is ? |
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simply beggars utter belief that anywun with an IQ of more than 20 who plays IR and sees the market in the last 2f of ev race isnt sure if its being controlled.
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controlled, manipulated by some... very probably, but do they know the result 2 furlongs out? Absolutely not.
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it is what it is mr.Hunt...
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Diego maradona hand of god...
no point moaning lads... it is what it is. |
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Alan Bates and all the Subpostmasters who got screwed over...
just get on with it guys... it is what it is...  |
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Wink away Hibby. If you spent less of your time whinging and worrying how everyone else was doing you might pinch a few quid.
If you think it's all so corrupt then you wouldn't touch it. You'd be getting out that white flag you've been threatening to wave for what seems like an eternity. |
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Jinxy1 • April 11, 2024 4:57 PM BST
I repeat, its time to ban or restrict in running on horse racing? what exactly does that mean? because you can't win , no one else should be able to? So long as Betfair advertise that other people/businesses may have advantages not available to Joe Punter, then bet at your own risk. |
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I/Running just like A/Post or 5 mins' before the off,you haven't got
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I'd be totally against pulling in-running even though i never get involved myself , it has to up to the individuals to realize the disadvantage or that they're crap at it and withdraw themselves.
I'd never penalize anyone for finding a way to win regardless of what others thought |
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Jinxy1 • April 11, 2024 4:57 PM BST
I repeat, its time to ban or restrict in running on horse racing? what exactly does that mean? because you can't win , no one else should be able to? So long as Betfair advertise that other people/businesses may have advantages not available to Joe Punter, then bet at your own risk. Does Betfair actually advertise (meaningfully) that 'other people/businesses may have advantages not available to Joe Punter', |
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Pre-race traders rely on in-running for their model to work. And they may not even watch the race in-play. Why take that away because some people have been left behind by technology?
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Jinxy, I'd agree, no not clearly enough, but anyone with an ounce of sense, would think how come I play the same way I used to when I won and now I'm losing, without smelling a rat?
Admittedly I knew for a fair while playing at the ARC tracks but thought I could buck the trend, but I saw the light. |
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Does Betfair actually advertise (meaningfully) that 'other people/businesses may have advantages not available to Joe Punter',
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it's a fair Q imv Jinxy. |
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all the 1.0X players can scrap it out among themselves, i'm talking about form students who trade, their trading done well before any 'unfair' advantages may kick in, or race readers (who know to get their business done early too)
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On top of this, Pythia also has access to non-public data which are constantly being worked through in an attempt to develop high quality signals for exchange trading.
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so does this data include live feedback from the horse as to how they're feeling in the race? Use your own eyes and don't leave it too late.
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no need to ban IR..caveat emptor.
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if anyone knows what 'non-public data' is then please enlighten me ?
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Hibby , it's an NDA between 2 parties with the intention of shafting people if possible!
But as I've said it's only data , it may influence live markets but trust it at your peril |