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Bianca Williams gets a driving ban and 18 penalty points...
Bianca Williams gets a driving ban and 18 penalty points...
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Pardon the pun, white knighting.
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It's a utter crock of sh1t.
losing her licence would "make my dream of going to the Olympics next year impossible" Not in dave's world tho ! |
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dustybin • December 5, 2023 3:44 PM GMT
Backing up her claim by providing the evidence you prik when it was requested. What claim? What evidence? The appeal for clemency was the attempt to get the magistrate to look favourably on that fault by supplying information that had nothing to do with the charge. we've already been through this virtually every single person facing a driving ban says why they should get one. Hundreds do it every week. It means nothing. She might have got 12 months, if she hadn't said the ban caused issues. |
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Cider • December 5, 2023 3:47 PM GMT
It's a utter crock of sh1t. losing her licence would "make my dream of going to the Olympics next year impossible" So after half an hour, this I suppose is your attempt to justify Cider • December 5, 2023 2:11 PM GMT Looks like at least one person involved is a proven liar. don't know why I'm surprised. |
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She/somebody was Driving a - Tesla Model 3
A quick google .... How much is a new Tesla Model 3 in UK? Answers ... From £39,000 She must be struggling to make ends meet. |
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I have not spend half an hour waiting for updates on this thread. Believe it or not. Good luck with the white knighting, you need it !
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The evidence of who was driving if it wasn’t her what I assume is her car you pedant.
The fact you make out that ‘every single person…’ (even one’s banged to rights I assume) is evidence of it being a ruse. |
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Any wrong un playing the race card is contemptable.
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Why does he think that people who refuse to take a breath test get the same punishment as those who are proven to be over the limit. As the refusal to comply is in effect, admittance to guilt.
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The purpose of the penalty is not to provide an obvious way to game the system. I think though if you documented that someone who refused a breath test was a drunk driver, you would find yourself in data protection difficulties.
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Most prob will be Sir Keir’s new minister of sport before long,tough life.
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Yes, so this is analogous. She tried to game the system, that failed, made up some bull sh1t lies to try and get off a ban, that failed too.
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She could actually carry on driving as no copper is going to risk giving her car a pull, and get sacked.
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Typical british relay runner - struggles to stay in her lane
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Cider • December 5, 2023 4:14 PM GMT
She could actually carry on driving as no copper is going to risk giving her car a pull, and get sacked. Why would they get sacked? They wouldn't need to lie about smelling cannabis, so no problem. |
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Cider • December 5, 2023 4:12 PM GMT
Yes, so this is analogous. She tried to game the system, that failed, made up some bull sh1t lies to try and get off a ban, that failed too. She had 11 points already, if she'd turned water into wine she'd still have been banned. And once again 100s plea not to get banned every week, some win some lose. |
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What was the hearing for then? Someone said she admitted guilt, and according to you, a ban was a foregone conclusion.
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My nephew was photographed by a camera for speeding - penalty 3-points; he was also stopped by coppers overtaking on the inside in town later - another possible 3-points. And, fearing he might be disqualified (he was a new driver then/max 5-points allowed within 2 yrs) he refused to identify himself as the driver of the car photographed for speeding. The person down to drive the car were myself, my sister and him.
I told my sister if my nephew did not own up I'd volunteer the info to the Police myself. My sister did (eventually), and a letter was sent to my nephew at his uni address; to say he was furious would be an understatement of the year. His defence was it was not his duty to identify or admit he was the driver. He insisted it was the Police. He also claimed the photograph could not be definitive he was the driver either. Nonetheless, I "told" my sister (my nephew understood where I stood here) if my nephew was unwilling or sufficiently matured to own up to his behaviour then he should not be driving; can't do the sentence, don't do the crime. No aspersion should be cast on the other (innocent) named drivers. Even now my nephew has not forgiven me on this. Tough! |
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So Dave, you making out that having already 11pts perhaps her non obliging with the law identifying herself as the driver when an offence had been made was an attempt to not get banned?
Either she was the driver and lied or failed to provide the details who was driving when required to, on 3 occasions. I’m happy that there’s deceit in there whichever way you cut it. |
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Why would they get sacked?
Fellow white knighters. There's woke credibility on the dinner party circuit in them there hills. |
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tough love impossible...
he will thank you for it one day i reckon. |
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Cider • December 5, 2023 4:27 PM GMT
What was the hearing for then? Someone said she admitted guilt, and according to you, a ban was a foregone conclusion She's entitled to say her bit. I'm sure she wasn't the only one on that day. She wasn't confident enough to employ a solicitor though. |
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Tying yourself in knots here. Either the hearing was carried out in the hope of getting off, or it wasn't.
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Cider • December 5, 2023 4:31 PM GMT
Why would they get sacked? So you haven't got an answer? You don't think the two lying PCs should have been sacked. That is obvious as you purred over them getting a few £k from go-funders. |
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I've not actually thoroughly researched the first 'event'. In my experience of these types of employment hearings, it doesn't need the burden of proof of a criminal court, ie adjudicators can pick a side they want to believe.
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Cider • December 5, 2023 4:36 PM GMT
Tying yourself in knots here. Either the hearing was carried out in the hope of getting off, or it wasn't. What? You're the one in knots after implying that she was a liar and being unable to back it up. She, like hundreds of othe,r says please don't ban me for xyz reason. Sometimes it works. It isn't lying. |
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Having pleaded guilty to three charges of failing to tell police the identity of a driver, Williams told the court she was not driving the Tesla at the time of the alleged offences.
What do you reckon. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f_u64_E5sw
---------------------------------------------- pity we don't have smellyvision... would have been a big help with this one tbh. |
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UserCider • December 5, 2023 2:11 PM GMT
Looks like at least one person involved is a proven liar. |
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I represented myself in a magistrates court as well (decades ago) for alleged driving offences. I was lied my arse off (successfully
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oh poor diddums, too scared to come out and say it.
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You said it yourself. It's akin to refusing a breath test when drunk. Attempted gaming of the system. I doubt there are many humans alive who have not lied to try and get out of a tight spot. I did something quite bad (nobody was hurt), young and stupid. I didn't want to be taken off the road aged circa 19 and I lied in court to save myself. I could have gone with the option of accepting guilt but I backed myself to navigate myself out of trouble. Lucky, lucky day.
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I had been to court previously that year for very minor offences, and I had evidence that the police were incorrect. I paid £200 for a brief that was worse than useless, he should have got me off. So I concluded that I could do a better job myself for the more serious one. Crazy times thinking back.
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'HappyHippy', he got 3 points for speeding. But, the copper whop stopped him in town did not prosecute - only a warning. Nevertheless, he went and totalled 2.5 cars each time blaming the cars (a Ford and a Polo); the last he was hit at the roundabout for not sufficiently given way to traffic on his right.
One can choose one's friends, but not a relative. How very true! |
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sounds a bit of a twit tbh impossible.
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He's in New Zealand the last time I heard. Spoilt!
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Good on you, Impossible.
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Any reason why she wasn't done for perverting the course of justice?
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Can anyone remember the former MP for Leicester who got a custodial sentence for lying, not identifying the driver caught speeding on camera and perverting the course on justice? I think she got 6 months, was deselected and lost her seat standing as an independent. She was still pleading innocence despite her work diary (constituency) implicated her. And, she's lawyer!
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