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wtf at fontwell dumb jockeys or what???
wtf at fontwell dumb jockeys or what???
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Good stuff Elise and jamee.
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see post above, My makes the rules up as they go along as to what i'm referring to .
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bha site has crashed lol
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Shame mkt not reopoend after finish. Could've made another day's profit given it took an hour...
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wgaf....thats the result,all by the rules....move on..
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3.50 2m. 3f. 49yds. (Class 5) 3-y-o plus9 Ran
´From The Horse´s Mouth Podcast´ Mares´ Handicap Hurdle of £5,844.00 3-y-o plus 1st - £2,794.00, 2nd - £820.00, 3rd - £410.00, 4th - £350.00, 5th - £350.00, 6th - £350.00 , 7th - £350.00, 8th - £350.00 9 Ran (disq) placed 2nd silks Just Henny (GB) 6, b m 10-8 (Abbott & Bunch) ts5 Rated 82 Midnight Legend (GB) - Exchanging Glances (GB)(Diktat (GB)) Breeder - Mrs J. Way (Morning price: 10/1 8/1 15/2 7/1 15/2 8/1 6/1 7/1 15/2 8/1 10/1) (Ring price: 8/1 15/2 8/1 17/2 9/1 10/1 11/1) SP 11/1 Neil Mulholland Harry Reed(3) midfield, took wrong route 3 out, headway from 2 out to lead before last, passed post in 1st, disqualified 30th Oct, 20 Uttoxeter 7th Hdl This Race (disq) placed 3rd 2.25L silks Havacuppa (GB) 6, b m 10-13 (Mr D V Gardner) Rated 84 Dream Eater (IRE) - Darjeeling (IRE)(Presenting (GB)) Breeder - D. V. Gardner Woodhayes Stud (Morning price: 9/4 2/1 9/4 2/1 9/4 5/2 11/4 3/1 10/3 7/2 4/1 5/2 3/1 7/2 3/1) (Ring price: 7/2 10/3 3/1 16/5 3/1 11/4 3/1 11/4 3/1) SP 3/1 Mrs S Gardner Lucy Gardner tracked leaders, disputing second when took wrong route 3 out, passed post in 2nd, disqualified 14th Mar, 20 Uttoxeter 1st Hcp Hdl Rated 76 This Race (disq) placed 4th shd silks Kalaya (IRE) 4, b f 11-1 (Mr David Gibbons) cp1 Rated 86 Thewayyouare (USA) - Kalabaya (IRE)(Sinndar (IRE)) Breeder - His Highness The Aga Khan's Studs S.C. (Morning price: 28/1 33/1 28/1 25/1 18/1 16/1 18/1 22/1 25/1) (Ring price: 22/1 25/1 28/1 25/1 28/1 25/1 28/1 25/1 28/1) SP 28/1 F J Brennan Brendan Powell disputed lead early, led when took wrong route 3 out, led 2 out, headed before last, passed post in 3rd, disqualified 19th Oct, 20 Plumpton p.u. Hcp Hdl Rated 92 This Race (disq) placed 5th 4.5L silks Kentford Mallard (GB) 7, b m 11-12 (Mr D I Bare) cp2 Rated 97 Sulamani (IRE) - Kentford Grebe (GB)(Teenoso (USA)) Breeder - D. I. Bare (Morning price: 5/2 11/4 3/1 10/3 4/1 9/2 5/1 11/2 7/2 10/3 7/2 9/4) (Ring price: 7/2 4/1 7/2 10/3 3/1 11/4 5/2 9/4) SP 9/4fav J W Mullins Jeremiah McGrath in rear, headway into midfield when took wrong route 3 out, passed post in 4th, disqualified 27th Oct, 20 Chepstow 2nd Hcp Hdl Rated 96 This Race (disq) placed 6th 16L silks Queen Among Kings (IRE) 6, b m 11-0 (Surefire Racing) Rated 85 Sans Frontieres (IRE) - Miss Legend (IRE)(Lend A Hand (GB)) Breeder - Thomas Keating (Morning price: 28/1 25/1 18/1 16/1 14/1 10/1 11/1 10/1 9/1 8/1 13/2 7/1 15/2 8/1 15/2 10/1) (Ring price: 8/1 15/2 7/1 15/2 8/1 17/2 8/1 17/2 8/1 17/2 10/1) SP 10/1 Miss Z Davison Miss P Fuller held up, in rear when took wrong route 3 out, passed post in 5th, disqualified 2nd Nov, 20 Plumpton 6th Hcp Hdl Rated 90 This Race (disq) placed 7th 7L silks Lucky Circle (GB) 4, b f 10-4 (Miss Laura Hurley) Rated 80 Yorgunnabelucky (USA) - Circle Of Angels (GB)(Royal Applause (GB)) Breeder - R. S. Brookhouse (Morning price: 40/1 50/1 66/1 40/1 22/1 25/1 22/1 20/1 25/1 28/1 80/1) (Ring price: 28/1 33/1 40/1 50/1 66/1 80/1 100/1) SP 100/1 Miss L Hurley Miss T Worsley(5) midfield, took wrong route 3 out, headway before 2 out, weakened before last, passed post in 6th, disqualified 6th Feb, 20 Doncaster 13th Hcp Hdl Rated 85 This Race 1st 0.5L silks Dharma Rain (IRE) 5, b m 11-1 (Mr Barry White) ts7cp5 Rated 91 High Chaparral (IRE) - Crazy Volume (IRE)(Machiavellian (USA)) Breeder - Lynch Bages Ltd & Camas Park Stud (Morning price: 13/2 6/1 11/2 6/1 11/2 5/1 11/2 6/1 13/2 7/1 13/2 6/1 4/1 7/2 4/1 7/2 10/3) (Ring price: 10/3 16/5 3/1 16/5 3/1 16/5 10/3 16/5 10/3 16/5 3/1 10/3) SP 10/3 Miss C Hobson Jack Tudor(5) Tote Win £4.34 in rear, jumped 3 out in last but was only runner to take correct route, passed post in 7th, awarded race (no winning time due to disqualifications) 14th Mar, 20 Fontwell 3rd Hcp Hdl Rated 91 This Race (disq) placed 9th 29L silks Remember Me Well (IRE) 7, b m 9-7 (Pink Birds) Rated 59 Doyen (IRE) - Creidim (IRE)(Erins Isle) Breeder - Mrs R. Moran (Morning price: 80/1 100/1 80/1 100/1 66/1 50/1 33/1 22/1 25/1 20/1 18/1 16/1 18/1 33/1) (Ring price: 18/1 20/1 22/1 20/1 22/1 20/1 22/1 25/1 33/1) SP 33/1 R Rowe N F Houlihan(7) disputed lead early, lost position before 6th, midfield when took wrong route 3 out, passed post in 8th, disqualified 22nd Oct, 20 Lingfield 11th Hcp Chs Rated 62 This Race p.u. silks Bluebell Sally (IRE) 9, b m 9-11 (Riverdance Consortium 3) ts5 Rated 69 Shantou (USA) - Princess Nina (IRE)(King's Theatre (IRE)) Breeder - Aidan Aherne (Morning price: 28/1 25/1 20/1 18/1 16/1 12/1 14/1 12/1 10/1 9/1 7/1 6/1 11/2 6/1 11/2 6/1 8/1) (Ring price: 6/1 13/2 7/1 15/2 8/1 15/2) SP 15/2 C J Gray Mr Sean Houlihan(3) tracked leaders, pulled up after 4th 15th Oct, 20 Wincanton 6th Hcp Chs Rated 69 This Race Off 3.50 CSF- £44.62 Tricast- £915.19. Non runner Furia D'Oudairies (FR) Stewards Enquiry - Amended Result **** New Customer Exclusive Bet 10 Get 30 in Free bets Min stake €10. 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be taking dharma on if it goes up in the h'cap as a result of that win ...
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It was not the rules that were at issue but there had to be a point where the Clerk gave instructions for the flight to be dolled off and his staff were slow in carrying out the instruction. A few seconds earlier and the arrows would have been in place and any jockey jumping it would have been dq and banned.
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won by 1/2 length pmsl
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Looking at Sparrow's post above, why have all the horses been pushed down a place? Surely it's just DHARMA RAIN - that's it. How can you be placed in a race which you did not officially complete?
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no penalties imposed on any rider.
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The tote have settled it correctly. Dharma the only finisher and tote place paid more than the win. £4.60 to place vs £4.34 to win.
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top shout to the commentator who called it straight away and echoed it several times for all the in running punters
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Exactly Jamee. I understand from this thread that BF have only settled one horse in the place market which is the correct decision.
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As of yet, Iv had no money returned to my account in the place market, having backed a DQ Horse.
Anybody else? |
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The only people who should be paid in the place market are those who backed DHARMA RAIN or laid any of the disqualified horses.
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wd lads..all the armchair experts copped the lot on the fav at 20/1..
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Should the jockeys who failed to jump the hurdle be disqualified. I think they have to be, regardless of the outcome of the race.
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fav was Kentford Mallard (9/4). hth.
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no sh!t sherlock.
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Think Jockeys took the safe option , 2 nutters with Signs on course and Injured horse ,Then man with Gran Prix flag arrive after they gone by , Shambolic from Fontwell regardless of Rules ,
no wonder no action taken against Jockeys .. Any one on winner pre-race will need to be doing the lottery this week . |
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After hearing evidence from each rider involved, the BHA announced that the disqualified jockeys would face no further punishment for taking the wrong course.
This was due to the genuine cause for concern created by the unfortunate positioning of the racecourse staff who were carrying the arrows across the track just as the field was approaching the third-last hurdle. The BHA's official stewards' report stated: "Taking into account, on this occasion; the poor visibility, and the illusion that the chevrons had been placed in the hurdle – which was caused by the chevrons being carried across the course behind the hurdle, which gave riders’ cause for concern for the safety of all involved – no penalties were imposed on any rider." |
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Anyone lost money has been robbed imo , Regardless of Rule
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Look Like RP not happy with outcome
"From The Horse's Mouth Podcast" Mares' Handicap Hurdle 2m3f, Class 5, £4,024.80 Going: Heavy 7. Just Henny 11/1 6. Havacuppa 3/1 4. Kalaya 28/1  result they have up now |
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they gave a tailed off horse the race that was halted becos of a misconstrued safety misunderstanding..
absolutely ridic..could have voided race and no complaints. |
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sky racing can close ride of the month for november ... the difference between winning and not getting plaiced, had about one second to decide
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The fact the jockeys who took the wrong course didn't get a ban tells you everything you need to know: the ground staff messed up.
Voiding the race would've made more sense. |
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Some days you get unexpectedly lucky; other days you feel like you've been completely shafted
 I have to admit I was extremely lucky today, as a buyer of Fontwell "99 Distances" on the spreads. The maximum make-up of 99 for the final race made a grand total of 192. The trade was already well ahead prior to the last race, so I just let it run. Believe me, I've been on the wrong side of several 'results' over the years (to much bigger stakes) and I feel the pain of anyone who has lost due to this race today. I finished the day marginally up, but only due to this result  |
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Is it a coincidence that this race and the fiasco at Sandown were the last race of the day in bad light.
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no need to void the race as 1 horse took the correct course .
if it was the other way around where 1 horse took the wrong course and they voided the race would that have been any different |
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distance betting..guessing at its finest.
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Not always, when you have enough data.
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anythings guessing for rico unless he's already seen it happening, don't be offended its how he rolls ...
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Pocket talking losers v those who were quick and shrewd enough to take the free money. I know which side I want to be on.
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Morning Lara / Fifi.
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Keyword in Laras post "WANT" nice to see an honest poster
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free money? noone had a clue what was happening..walofs
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gambeano 16 Nov 20 00:07
Not always, when you have enough data. does the data tell you when 1 finishes? does the data know whwn a jockey rides out or eases up? another walofs |
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To be honest, I'd say "when a jockey rides out or eases up" is alofs as a statistical measure
How on earth would you quantify it in a data file? 0=Winner ridden out, 1 = winner eased up? And what about if the second place jockey eases up whilst the leader rides out? I'm not looking at individual race markets; I'm looking at a meeting as a whole, so a collection of 6-8 races (and now 9 or sometimes 10 races per card since Covid-19 came along). I have plenty of data and criteria to work with and if you think it's alofs, that's fine by me, each to their own  |