No doubt Facts thinks that Labour would have went into a lockdown weeks before etc and saved thousands of lives, I even heard one of the Labour MPs on QT about 5 months ago who started going on about the lockdown coming too late, and was surprised when Bruce interrupted him and asked "when did Labour call for one", and after squirming a bit he replied "a few hours before the lockdown was announced"!!! But still as Facts says this useless Government should have locked down earlier, as if Labour would have done anything different...

George, sorry about the delay I just could not stop laughing. I cannot believe anyone on here responds to your rubbish. And I have just done that so this will be my last contact
Your post of 8.14 am.

With regard to Jenny Harris if you have the disease breathing it in will make no difference you still have the disease.

With regard to Vam Tam, we know a mask makes no difference if you are well, ffs, but not everyone knows they are well and do or do not have the disease.

You are such a clown and peddle such rubbish.

trevor007, what happens when those countries come out of lockdown, or are they staying locked down forever?

and why not compare Sweden with the UK, does keeping it local suit your argument better?

brigust1, do you think the guaranteed extra deaths from other illnesses due to lack of diagnosis/treatment is a price worth paying, or could we not move the handful of covid patients- to these nightingale ghost ships perhaps- from these hospitals and get them back to what they were built for?

I thought the Nightingale hospitals can only treat people with just covid and in reality most with covid have lots of other issues so need a fully equipped hospital.

Answer Ireland's call. We need doctors.7,000 returned home.
You'll love this ! How many got employed .???
Wait for it!

I volunteered to take people to and from hospital at the start of this, along with thousands of others. Turns out they didn't need any of us, as most appointments were cancelled until further notice.

the average life expectancy of someone age 80 is 89.5, despite 90% of 80-y-os having one or more comorbids...it's presumptive and almost certainly erroneous imo to believe all the aged that died were at death's door anyway.

You think any country can afford to virtually close it's economy every year or two?

thanks for your response George B

I compare with bordering Sweden because these countries our demographically and geographically similar, compared to the UK.

Agreed when we compare the UK with any country and in particular and our nearest neighbours France, Spain etc. we haven't don't well, the European lockdowns were more draconian that the lockdown in this country.

Your premise that lockdowns dont work is not bourne out, Finland and Norway after lockdown introduced mandatory 14 day isolation for anybody entering there country as did the Chinese and many other countries in the far east. It is this policy that allows the good work of a lockdown to be carried on and the lifting of restrictions.

We have seen in this country after the lockdown with no International TOURISM, rates remained low, people were moving about freely from the 1000's who went to Bournemouth and Brighton beach on the bank holiday early summer, (when we were told there will be a huge spike in cases) right through the summer with the huge number of tourist travelling around the UK.

No significant spike in cases happened. I suspect the lockdown had the desired effect.

As were all finding out its not the lockdown that's the problem its what you do after lockdown that matters and until we say that all people entering this country have to isolate for 14 days no ifs or buts and this is also the case for people going on holiday and coming back, this problem will not go away.

You can go back and forth with lockdown till 2100.
It won't make any difference.
Like any virus the weakest suffer!
The rest will brush it off.
I refer to the 306 deaths under 60

I hope that people who want us all to hide and ruin the country on the back of numbers like that feel ashamed one day, new shoes.

Here's another funny 1! Well not funny at all
At least 50% of schools in Ireland don't have warm running water.
Now wash your hands.lol

You lockdown the numbers go down.
You open up numbers go up.
How many years of lockdown are you prepared for! Forever?

Inflazome, which are developing new treatments for covid.
Set up 2016
Company now sold 380million
The Irish vallance.

Lockdowns are great at cutting the spread of a virus. Its ending them thats the problem.

truehoncho, I should have added "in theory", but the fact is hospital deaths peaked April 8th before the lockdown, which commenced March 23rd, could have had such an impact, which would suggest the numbers were going to decline anyway.

' Don't forget at the time the reason for the lockdown was to ensure we didn't crash the NHS so that everyone could get treatment.'




Everyone who has covid only, everyone else can bugger off or wait. The irony would be amusing were it not so tragic.

to be fair, we have a few too many students here in Bristol and if a few got shot by the Army, nobody would complain.