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By:
duffy
When: 10 Sep 20 17:21
Wesdag's experience seems to support my theory it seems
By:
HappyHibby
When: 10 Sep 20 17:24
well at least one of your theories is poppyc0ck duffy...

coz you are confusing RTV and ATR BLV issues...
By:
jamesdean
When: 10 Sep 20 17:26
Don't think they'd bother with updates, duffy, if just trying to fob us off

Think the providers are taking the p1ss out of Betfair with excuses about covid and furlough and Betfair seem to be buying it
By:
jamesdean
When: 10 Sep 20 17:28
That doesn't excuse Betfair, they should be harder on the providers, they are paying them enough money through lost comm for a **** product
By:
HappyHibby
When: 10 Sep 20 17:30
if fast RTV BLV pics wasn't the objective then why are they working like trojans to try and fix it and give us what they did in February...?

why don't they just say...

there are your pics with all the lovely graphics (that nobody wants btw)...

the speed doesn't matter...

end of story...
By:
HappyHibby
When: 10 Sep 20 17:31
working day and night to try and fix something that was just a bi-product seems awfully strange to me...

they must be lovely human beings to do that for us...
By:
Wesdag
When: 10 Sep 20 17:33
not the main objective

has you not noticed all the sh!te on the screen?
By:
Wesdag
When: 10 Sep 20 17:34
*have
By:
jamesdean
When: 10 Sep 20 17:35
Were rtv lv pics flash before the trial?
By:
duffy
When: 10 Sep 20 17:40
HH,

You can't have it both ways, one minute it is a conspiracy with the select few having privileged access to the fast pics whilst crowds are off the track and it could easily have been sorted by now and the next minute you believe when they tell you they are working day and night to fix it.

Which is it?
By:
jamesdean
When: 10 Sep 20 17:40

Sep 10, 2020 -- 5:15PM, Wesdag wrote:


james,Do you honestly think pic speeds would have been addressed if not for Flash being decommissioned?


Were rtv lv pics flash before the trial?

By:
jamesdean
When: 10 Sep 20 17:41
Dont think hibby believes it duffy, but betfair do and that is the problem, doesnt matter what we believe
By:
HappyHibby
When: 10 Sep 20 17:49
i have no idea what is going on duffy...

i don't know who or what to believe...

just find it weird (and i'm talking about RTV BLV now coz i know you get easily confused between the two) that they can produce something in February (and which is due to go live on April 1st) but they cannot re-produce it on June 2nd...

and over 3 MONTHS later they still cannot re-produce...

meanwhile it is blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that certain folk have access to faster RTV pics (by whatever means) than RTV BLV produces for stay at home folk like me...

and i also have to add in drones and facetime scenarios to be fair...

it's all very very weird imv...

unfathomable tbh.
By:
thebootman
When: 10 Sep 20 17:50
Both arguments are correct. When I went down to meet RMG in May 18 they knew about Flash coming to an end. They were always just going to produce one stream that was for bookmaker streaming, but given I had proven how much money they were missing out on through piracy etc they accepted the need to produce a quick stream. They were looking at a stream which was around one second behind live. I told them it was too slow and it needed to be around 1/2 a second.

A year later they came back to me and said they now have the tech in place, via a US company, that will be able to produce that speed. It was expensive and someone would need to pay for it, hence I wasn't able to say anything over last winter with various contract talks. It appears Betfair were willing to pay. The aim was to get it ready by April this year. They said they would run some trial meetings. They did, as we all know they were a success 0.5 a second behind. What has gone on since then no one will explain, I cannot get a straight answer, i'm sick of asking now. I'm hoping I get the call in the next few weeks to say they are ready, Betfair who appear to be heavily invested in this keep telling me it'll happen, when God knows.
By:
duffy
When: 10 Sep 20 17:59
Anyway the issue with the RTV pics, which saw us fighting over .2 or whatever it was with some happy to use the sky pics anyhow for the larger screen has now been superceeded by the ATR issue ad the new format.

bootman,

Can you tell BF that ever since they implemented the same format for both sets of pics the ATR pics have suffered greatly...they need to revert those pics back to the original set up.

This is a recent issue and is a more pressing problem than the existing one concerning the RTV pics that we've been discussing for months.

This issue doesn't appear to be the problem that is being addressed.
By:
cheburekito
When: 10 Sep 20 18:04
lol, not just live video is ****, but also the guy working on turning market to inplay
By:
HappyHibby
When: 10 Sep 20 18:04
thanx for keeping on going bootman...

as i have said before i'd have thrown the towel in long ago...

without you we have nowt so your efforts really are appreciated...
By:
jamesdean
When: 10 Sep 20 18:08
here here
By:
duffy
When: 10 Sep 20 18:11
Yep many thanks, something at least we can all agree on !!
By:
thebootman
When: 10 Sep 20 18:45
Thanks chaps. Duffy yes i'll pass that on.
By:
howard
When: 10 Sep 20 20:40
Don't know how far behind live but Betfair pics slightly ahead of satellite last at Chelmsford
By:
dustybin
When: 11 Sep 20 13:45
Donny working fine here today on fastest setting
By:
Wesdag
When: 11 Sep 20 14:13
no probs here on min either
By:
jamesdean
When: 11 Sep 20 14:22
apart from the volume i take it
By:
jamesdean
When: 11 Sep 20 14:24
no volume chester and sticky
By:
Wesdag
When: 11 Sep 20 14:24
yep
By:
shady69
When: 11 Sep 20 14:25
Donny ok but Chester garbage Cry
By:
jamesdean
When: 11 Sep 20 14:44
unplayable here on minimum doncaster

did you lads speak too soon?
By:
Wesdag
When: 11 Sep 20 14:46
seems so

Sad
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Sep 20 14:48
Was persuaded to try minimum at Donny for the first time today based on what you boys had said.  Maybe it can only support 3 people watching it at the same time and I tipped it over the edge?!?  Laugh
By:
shady69
When: 11 Sep 20 14:50
Donny was ok then on normal ...
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Sep 20 14:50
if there are no track vermin at doncaster (and there clearly shouldn't be) then i'm Louis Van Gaal...

someone somewhere at the track is playing in running...

been thinking that all week tbh...

scandalous.
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Sep 20 14:51
Agreed, Hib.  Country mile behind.  A few times yesterday I actually wondered if I was watching the same race as what the IR market was showing.
By:
Writz
When: 11 Sep 20 14:54
Last race at Donny back to Benny Hill clips unplayable yet again come on Betfair wake up and sort this **** out
By:
jamesdean
When: 11 Sep 20 14:55
Maybe betfair need to open up on increase servers to be able to handle more users
By:
jamesdean
When: 11 Sep 20 14:56
or*
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Sep 20 14:58
Chester ok here on min that race
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Sep 20 14:59
A few times yesterday I actually wondered if I was watching the same race as what the IR market was showing.

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been like that all week at doncaster imv Latalomne...

folk well ahead...

shocking liquidity...

ends up being unplayable...

and that's not even thinking aboutthe shocking pics that has been served up...
By:
Wesdag
When: 11 Sep 20 14:59
seems very hit & miss

was ok on low for me - would probably have be fine on minimum too
By:
Writz
When: 11 Sep 20 15:01
Been back on course since racing began the vermin pay to much money for a box not to be there money talks in any form of gambling but now with live pictures totally fkd we haven’t a chance Happy
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