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global life expectancy is in the 70s so get your facts right
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The trouble at present is that none of us seem to know whether to make a stand or take the knee? Wonders is the expert - he can tell us.
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Ha ha ha.
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I'd not wish to engage further here but I'd at Speaker's Corner if I'm confronted with the same callous argument ie advocating it's ok to sacrifice a specific group of fellow country persons for another in order to grow the economy so soon regards Covid-19. The callous attitude advocated by some is too demeaning and heinous to be engaging with in any debate let alone a forum like this one. And, it's nothing to do with losing an argument or not - I'd done lots of that at school. I do not wish to sink to their despicable and shameful level either.
SARs and Eboula were also deadly but luckily for the West there were at least 2 major differences eg timing and location; the former was 20 years earlier (transportation/movement of people and wealth of source/origin were significantly lesser) and the latter was confined to a much smaller area in Africa with little ability to infect others overseas. I do not wish to win an odious argument pitting one group of human beings against another. |
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I think its safe to say you are no danger of winning any argument.
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Well said impossible123 - their position is grotesque.
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Thank-goodness none of you were my Economic lecturer at Uni. --- now you are just bull ****.
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If posters on here really did study economics at university they would realise that everyone's well being relies on a decent economy. Off you go to the third world if you think otherwise. Total nonsense to suggest anything else.
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do think it was a bit harsh on Goodwood,when
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... or Berlin, where they're protesting against masks and lockdown today:
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sheep will bleat - leave impossible to it, most dribblers lack the capacity to think for themselves,it's a complete waste of time trying to debate with someone who's incapable of critical thinking. There's a reason why the majority are known as 'the herd'.
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Absolutely correct fckewe which is why you are following the flock and have such an influential user name with a gross of 43 posts.Impossible not only has the moral high ground,he also controls the intellectual level of said flock who have to resort to various statistics and unproven data to support their cause.
Btw sheep flock which is exactly what you have done,well done. |
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The u k is fecked
When you read posters on here That goes a long way To explain it.... |
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Spot on irishone,the Govt screwed up from BEFORE the start,now they try and do things too late the general population now doing its best to make a bad situation worse.A selfish,ignorant nation second only to the US in terms of self destruction and even there some states have more common than the majority.
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You are right geltoby the Government made a terrible decision based on chronically bad advice from so called scientists. They got it wrong. !0's of thousands of hospital beds lay empty for nearly 2 months which delayed 100's of thousand of procedures. This had nothing to do with the lock down as it was capacity made available from mid March for the expected demand from the infected at the time. It was an error and proved by Sweden to be unnecessary. The USA death rate is a good bit less than any country in Europe. Nobody is selfish or arrogant but people can read the numbers and see the facts. Hardly any more dead (and when the adjustments are made maybe no more) than the 2018/19 flu season and thats official public health England figures not mine.
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No doubt these same people advocating sacrificing the community who built the nation for those who are younger, probably work-shy and shallow-minded, narcissistic and belong to the throw-away society would embrace the horror movie The Purge in the future to progress the economy of "their" country.
And, it will not surprise me if the same people are not UK domicile or residence certainly not have the UK at heart, but with ulterior motives to suit. By the way the people (citizens and elected officials) of a country determine the success or failure of that country and its economy, not the country itself. |
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Probably not a surprise to you impossible but months back I mentioned Genocide,vilified for that and the suggestion of suppressed death figures in UK.
Now we have all sorts of "experts" on a racing forum with all the answers? The simple facts are this,you destroyed them from the simply moral stand without resorting to easily twisted "Facts and figures" which they are saying grossly inflates the UK death rate and pneumonia is a huge recent killer and common flu. Here is some news from myself and my wife who is a retired Professor of Biology and genetics,retired btw 55 years old.Her sister died 8 days after being infected (apparently) her nice died after 11 days aged 28 years after being infected (apparently) and both as fit and as healthy as most serious sportspersons. She say's a non discriminatory virus and the BAME people are using it to gain points,goes further to say as far as UK and US concerned,responsible for the spread regardless of social status.Says even given time it will be proven that ethnics in upper echellons will suffer more deaths per capita than percieved lower caste and economy.Because of lifestyle. Had to to share that because it is disturbing the level of ignorance. ![]() ![]() |
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And btw my wife advises the UK records cause of death as pneumonia as routine whether patients in from car crashes,falls at home etc,injuries never mentioned on death certificate despite perhaps multiple fractures or even brain trauma.
The cause of death mostly recorded as pneumonia so come back and debate this screamingbeneath your duvet? |
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for once the RP has a decent comment tonight with a comparison of the wide open acres of Goodwood and cricket grounds being closed
while every beach on the south coast and in the south west are rammed to the hilt. and now some mad scientist suggests all pubs,bars and restaurants should close again so schools can return !!! we truely are being influenced by some brain-dead experts...who does he think will pay for all our public services |
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if our aim is to eradicate the disease, we will fail. Hardly any diseases are are eradicated from the world. We have been trying for centuries. We always fail. regardless of the emotional, but understandable. laments of those who have suffered, or will suffer, or know someone who will suffer, this is an unalterable fact. As long as 1 person on the entire planet has this,it will survive. Thus, we need to live, and die, with it, as we do with all other fatal diseases. Out reaction is absurd, disproportionate, illogical, damaging and fatal. (to those with other conditions). When the £ from the furlough ends, and redundancies begin, my view, I hope, will become the norm.
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Cant believe how many Darwanists are on here, or do they just have the loudest, self righteous, noise polluting voices
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Well said Glentoby
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A lot of waffle on this thread but the simple fact is if we can go and sit in the pub indoors for hours on end then we should be allowed to go racing. Sort it out Boris FFS
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if these religious groups who are not social distancing carry on i can see some turning on them and riots and the like
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Welcome back Chit-Chat....
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Comparing Covid-19 to the flu season, what is the proportional infection and death rate for NHS staff and care workers dealing with these two seperate viruses?
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This virus is so intelligent, it can spread like wildfire after a trip to the beach, but has no effect if you're in a violent mob running after cops. A treatment that has been around decades suddenly doesn't work. Masks never worked to start with but now do. Cuomo from cnn and King Boris suffered with it but made a remarkable fast recovery and were back to work in no time. If you watch mainstream news the virus even has racist tendencies.
Go shopping without a mask, and you may be approached by a masked raging maniac, who may wish death on you for making a choice regardless if you have small children with you. This virus can turn people into nasty animals. I save the best for last. This virus is so special there will be a vaccine in record time. What a virus. |
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Problem is, one size fits all, no one is sitting down and sorting things out. We can have people at the crucible on Friday but not on Saturday. We can have 1000 people watching the cricket earlier last week but not on Saturday. And Goodwood in the fresh air were given "permission" to race but not on Saturday. And all this because 115,967 people in Manchester tested negative. Oh sorry I mean 59 tested positive. WTF is going on? Beaches everywhere packed to capacity, flights in and out of the country every day, masks which have been proved to be pointless to be worn in shops and now some mad scientist (yes another one) has said that some pubs and restaurants will have to close to compensate for schools opening up in September. You couldn't make it up.
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It is this sort of inaccurate, deluded analysis that means that the R rate will continue to rise, the death rate to increase and the emergency measures become more severe.
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were you just knocking up breakfast for the kids or making a protein shake post run when you found time to let us all know your covid thoughts (again)?
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Not just one person letting us know their views.
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It is hard to see how overt sexism enhances the debate but some will always resort to it.
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They should put 54 year old ex minister Mark Francois in charge.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/21/analysis-why-englands-covid-19-death-toll-is-wrong-but-not-by-much
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