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Yes looks like people are going mental. Big socially distanced queues to get a microchip in your arm to access your digital cash come spring ?
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well done boris and the rest of the gov
UK neither healthy regarding economy or virus as we approach winter We know why the economy is in a poor way. Who's going to pay for the social services required to look after the vulnerable and old Hello? You come at it from a decent point of view but it massively impractical. There will be many more deaths caused by the over reaction to this virus. They just won't be on the 9 0'clock news every day so no one will give a hoot. |
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salient points again th
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lockdown deaths represent a significant chunk of the excess mortality we saw in the spring...not a peep about it on mainstream of course
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honcho
 hope alls good man and your getting a run or two eradication is only way forward , or we will be like this forever they had 5 months to crack it and here we are no testing , tracing system even close to working and virus on rise again , complete failure tbh |
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Differentdrum spot on in both his posts.
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I have a few Hello. I finally managed to go racing to Ayr on Tuesday. What a dreadful experience. Hope it changes soon.
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How long do we think we will be living like this ? over four months now.
For example do we think there will be a normal crowd at Glorious next year ? |
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It's for ever.
If positive tests ever fell to zero, it would prove that masks and bans work, so we must continue. If positive tests never fall to zero, it would prove that we must carry on wearing masks and banning things. There is no way out. |
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Well, bar emigration to the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway or Belarus, obviously.
Belarus - currently the freest nation in Europe! |
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1 of the most sensible posts written on here in a long time
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The way out of it is for the few healthy people who might not yet have been infected to get themselves infected as quickly as possible. It's the way living things combat every respiratory virus and defeat it. This is a very simple one to deal with, as only the very old and the very sick are vulnerable, so we know who to keep at home for a few weeks while the rest of us catch it.
This is the time to do it. The hospitals are completely empty, while GP surgeries are shuttered and gathering dust. Ban face-coverings and order a month-long Cheltenham Festival, and by week four the hospitals would be as empty again as they are now. |
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And before anyone says "what about Boris - he caught it and look what happened to him!" - Boris is an obese, boozing dwarf whose dippy woman put him on a vegetarian diet. What chance did he have?
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screaming -
After you posted above - "There is no way out" .... at the end of your succinct and straightforward appraisal of the situation .... you had me thinking. Likewise I thought that, to get to an end game, it has to run through the global population... until there is nobody, or merely a few in remote places, without natural immunity. Whether than will happen, or can be achieved, with the doomsday scenario, I do not know. I take heart, though, from the fact that the whole globe is not currently worrying itself sick about both SARS and EBOLA... which were a similar agenda a few years back, too. |
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Screaning, having suffered the effects of the virus , Hospitalised with Pneumonia clots on my lungs and two broken ribs from coughing I find your take on this deadly virus unimaginably humourless .Having spent time in a isolation ward with 3 others ,sadly one person from the four of us didn't make it ,I am astounded you think its worth making fun of such a grim reaper of lives...
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^ * 'without the doomsday scenario,'
---------- I agree about Boris - He does not carry conviction when he 'addresses the nation' Likewise Trump has been shown up for the Chancer that he is by all this .... But I do like it when he keeps referring to ............ "The CHINA Virus" Keep belting it out Donald. |
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Workrider. I am so glad you've come out of it the other side. I enjoy your posts and value your experience.
But that's the point. You have had it, and so have vast numbers of others, and that's in the past. The question is: where do we go from here? Can you see any way back to a life of freedom, prosperity and dignity without letting the virus run its course through the young and/or healthy? |
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I assume it's still ok for everyone to pile down the pub tomorrow to watch the cup final
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in fairness neither of those teams have many fans so they could probably get together under the guise of being a bubble
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Well said differentdrum.
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Screaming, I'm still not 100% and might never be, hospital rang me yesterday to say my lungs have not fully cleared and they want another xray in 8 weeks , only good thing is they said i can come off blood thinners on Sunday, nobody really knows for sure whats happening with this virus, doctors told me I would be fine after a month , now nearly 3 months later i still feel the effects that's how little they understand this thing. So please be careful in your advice to others...
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Yes we can all go down the pub to watch the footy and infect all and sundry but we can't go to race meetings in acres upon acres of fresh and nothingness!
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Fair enough, workrider. I had mumps when I was very small, and now I have so little hearing left now owing to the progressive nerve damage that I can't hear voices at all. Viral damage can be horribly chronic.
But there you go. I'm 58, had a great life and no complaints. But most people are a lot younger than me, they aren't having a great life, and the current course means they're simply not going to have one either. They're going to have a fearful, poor and unforgivably drab one instead. We can't continue on this course. There's no exit from it at all. It's simply not fair on younger people. |
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Screaming , here in Ireland in recent days its been young people who are now getting it more than older ones strange as it might seem , I popped into a Paddys earlier and a guy around 32 ish was sneezing and what came out of his nose was not a pleasant sight i can tell you, I left the shop asap.
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I'm young-ish and healthy to put cards on the table. Trying to get back to normal knowing that you'll catch it, or even hoping to catch it, isn't very appealing as people my age have older parents etc. The alternatives aren't appealing either and we need to be grown up about them. We can't go on like this though. I'm sure of that.
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Yeah, but my point is that, as he was younger, he was in a betting shop doing it, not in an intensive-care unit. We have to let his sort loose for a few weeks, while those of us old enough to not fancy our chances avoid betting shops for the duration.
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And my point been its younger people who are getting it more often now , the lady who took his bet will probably catch anything he has and he might have left the pen down and someone else will pick it up etc, hopefully the guy had nothing wrong with him, he had just popped out of the pub next door for a bet, I agree we can't keep our lives on hold , but having first hand experience of it changes your mind towards it...
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Just to put this thing in perspective , I never took a pill only when really necessary ,but by the time I got to the reception from my car, a distance of 50 foot at the hospital I could hardly breath..
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screaming from beneath's - point is, though...
The 32-yr-old in Paddy's Betting Shop may not/probably will not be as badly affected by catching the Virus as you (or people of your age,) workrider were affected,. or will be. Same as all - "the young ones" - who are showing symptoms now ... The vast, vast majority of them will just 'brush if off'. Yes, they can affect others - possibly - more vulnerable ... But they will also be building up the Immunity Pool... to then lead towards eradication. |
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Yes, they can affect others - possibly - more vulnerable ... But they will also be building up the Immunity Pool... to then lead towards eradication. thats pretty much my take on it as well.
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the immunity pool theory hasnt been proven yet , that will take time and some studies show a drop in antibodies after a few wks /months
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studies show a drop in antibodies after a few wks /months There is no difference as far as I am aware of antibodies achieved through natural spread than those achieved through a vaccine. If what your saying is true then it;s all pointless anyway. Maybe thats what happens with the flu and why it comes around every year.
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Can't think why anyone here can listen to the government when we have all these medical and scientific experts on this horse racing forum.
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Because the government's policies have caused a social and economic catastrophe, they have doubled down on it today, and they have no possible exit from it.
So we look for something more effective. |
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Can't think why anyone here can listen to the government when we have all these medical and scientific experts on this horse racing forum. I don't know why people would read the forum/threads if they are not interested in peoples views.
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Antibodies are really not what you're looking for. They're the very last line of defence, and can cause more problems than the original disease if too many have to swing into action.
It's the immunoglobulin in the nose and the throat, and the white blood cells, which you need to have primed and ready to fight an infection, so antibodies won't be needed. Prior experience of a virus makes them work more quickly and effectively. A summer out in the sunshine strengthens the immune system too. This really is the time of year when you want people to catch this virus, so they suffer the fewest consequences. Not in March, after six months of low sun. |
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its one of the trains of thought that it acts like the seasonal flu and also evolves genetically
added to fact its hasnt even peaked yet on world scale , a record 292,000 new cases last 24 hours and so far not far from 700,000 have sadly passed we could be like this years unless we get someone responsible running this country |
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Actually we need someone irresponsible running the country.
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