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dooomed we are all doomed
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weve got a complete nutter of a pm, and i voted for him
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What a useless, dithering, prime minister we've got. Thank god he wasn't around in 1940, we'd have all been Germans!
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Good.
Things have sounded pretty ominous for the last week or so. Personally, I don't think we locked down quick enough and then we opened up (much) too soon. We should have made sure we were as near enough completely on top of things as possible before heading in that direction. Someone like Boris who is so obviously all for personal freedoms was the last person we needed leading the campaign. There was never enough belief that the British public would do the 'right thing' for long enough. It shouldn't be a desperate hardship to give things like a holiday once a while. |
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dont mention the war
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FFS I was going to Edgbaston on Sunday to watch some cricket in the sunshine
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how many are dying ?
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Millions of deaths in Sweden ?
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Yes Kriskin, people can't be left to their own devices, there are too many idiots in the world
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Howard, there hasn't been a million deaths across the globe, what are you waffling about?
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We have to bear in mind where we are now compared to where people said we would be in May. Many people thought racing wouldn't start again until August and pubs would be shut until after xmas. This is just a couple of weeks political manoeuvring, we will be far further forward in a months time. These trials will be delayed for 2 or 3 weeks at the most.
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5000 deaths in Sweden at last count i believe
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Onlooker. Spot on.
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onlooker. You are totally correct. It really is madness in the UK.
Nobody willing to point the finger more at exactly where the new infections are coming from and why in case they are ripped to pieces in the media. The tail is so wagging the dog in this country. A bit of me actually hopes that the increased rates of infection largely in tightly populated BAME areas finally opens up a debate about how ethnic minorities need to be more respectful of the culture of the country they are in. And that applies across the board and even to those born here, in some cases at least. On the other hand, though, it is a little difficult to imagine how we are going to re-introduce any crowds to sports events until we have a vaccine now. If every time we ease off restrictions there is an uptick in cases that means the brakes need to go on, we will never get to the point where crowds can return. Well, not until a vaccine is widely available. I keep saying it but to include racecourse in the COVID legislation for sports stadia was a dreadful mistake. They should have been classified as racecourses so that the minimum number of people who often attend midweek could at be accomodated back, and even used as testing events for bigger numbers. We should be going from the bottom up, not the top down and treating different events separately. 350 midweek at a small country track is very different from 75k at Old Trafford for a Premier Lge game. |
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Many less deaths in Sweden than UK with no lockdown. I know the difference in population. But there are more unfit/obese in UK.
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According to Hislop it's 'devastating news'. Sorry but thousands of people dying is actually devastating news.
Most people watching at home wouldn't care tuppence if there is a crowd or not. The sport doesn't need a crowd to produce a product. It is not like human team sports like football. |
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We should be going from the bottom up, not the top down and treating different events separately. 350 midweek at a small country track is very different from 75k at Old Trafford for a Premier Lge game. --- I think that is an excellent point. Start small and 5000 should have been 500.
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50000 Dead 5 million facing financial disaster , keep locking down
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Any racists should get In the bin:
In Trafford, a mostly-affluent part of Greater Manchester, health officials said younger middle-class residents were behind the recent rise in cases – not the south Asian community. Eleanor Roaf, Trafford council’s director of public health, said about 57% of the new cases were people aged 25 or below and included those in its wealthiest suburbs, Altrincham and Hale, where footballers and actors live. “It’s spread across Trafford. It’s not concentrated at all in our more deprived areas,” she told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. “My real concern is perhaps the messaging. Definitely the harms from Covid are concentrated in the more deprived areas but in fact anyone can get it and we really need to make sure that people living in wealthier areas aren’t complacent because that’s the biggest risk. “Altrincham, Hale, have been some of our hotspots in Trafford, so the messaging I’m wanting to get out is [that] absolutely anyone can get it.” |
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Many less deaths in Sweden than UK with no lockdown. I know the difference in population. But there are more unfit/obese in UK. The death rate is actually less in Sweden. There is no arguing with that its just a fact. I for one have never beleived the lock down was effective. We should have put our resources into protecting the vulnerable. The upteen billions we gave away in furlough would have been better spent on the vulnerable and we would still have a 1/2 decent economy.
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it looks like some religions are flouting corona we are not allowed to say which ones but its affecting us all i can see a backlash coming unless they get in line
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Still far too early to bring back crowds. The right decision
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Still far too early to bring back crowds. The right decision I don't agree. The infection rate is a red herring. Providing the vulnerable are protected the virus is not an issue for the vast majority. In fact the quicker we get it the quicker we have anti bodies to it.
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This isn’t going away innit...
I mean until everyone receives a cure then it’s just going to keep rearing it’s ugly head. |
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there is no pandemic, no excess mortality in the UK for weeks
check public health england for the facts if you aren't aware of them and yet government is still fkin interfering with our everyday lives when are people gunna wise up to this & make a stand |
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1st June all sports back on behind closed doors. That's ALL sports, one size fits all but one size doesn't fit all. A race meeting with 10,000 in attendance is vastly different to Anfield and Old Trafford with 60,000 frenzied fans baying for blood. Did we have a spike the other day from 1000 people attending the county cricket match? The ministers in charge haven't a clue about reality...the spikes we have that have resulted in yet another clanger by the government are in Leicester.......Bradford......Oldham......Blackburn.....Kirklees.....you don't have to be Einstein to work out the common denominator, instead of another unnecessary lockdown why not just quarantine the infected culprits and let the rest of us get back to normal.....a lot of sane and sensible postings on here today...
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No Pandemic ? Then why are so many people dying of it, what else are they dying from ?
And the people that have thevirus ? I have heard a few people say this, The same people that said 9/11 never happened Maybe England didn't win the World Cup in 1966 too ? ![]() |
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Keep sporting events locked down ta
Good work de Pfeffel ya bumbling tit |
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StewB • July 31, 2020 1:44 PM BST
No Pandemic ? Then why are so many people dying of it, what else are they dying from they're not though there hasn't been excess mortality in the summer no excess mortality = no pandemic understand? |
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The infection rate spike that has caused these measures is an increase in cases from 1:4000 in some parts of the North to 1:3500.
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StewB 31 Jul 20 13:44
Maybe England didn't win the World Cup in 1966 too ? They didn't, West Ham did ![]() |
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pumphol.
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I don't understand why people just don't look at the annual flu surveillance data from PHE. If you compare the flu season with this coronovirus outbreak the data is almost identical. The only difference is that this outbreak has lasted slightly longer (compare the graph) as we flattened the curve through lockdown. Sweden's data gives an identical profile as the flu season because they didn't lock down. I think we have totally over reacted and the deaths that will result from this will never be highlighted. As far as any excess deaths through March, April and May I think that 10's of millions of people being isolated from their families and many services (including health) may well have something to do with that.
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People "In tears" that work behind the scenes are the postponement of tomorrows crowds !!
INCREDIBLE !! ppl are dying yet some ppl are upset in tears cos crowds are banned !!! ![]() ![]() |
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So what happens if the Virus is eradicated, when next winter the flu comes back to kill 20 to 30,000 people?
Will a lockdown be imposed? If not ,why not? This Government hasn't a clue about anything outside of it's own little Ivory tower world. They are totally incompetent and were warned every winter year after year about the potential consequences of a pandemic by experts in the NHS and did nothing whatsoever to prepare. They are a disgrace! |
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well done boris and the rest of the gov
UK neither healthy regarding economy or virus as we approach winter |