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Take it easy scream, your getting confused and loving playing off a feed a million seconds behind.
Are you on the right forum? The George Floyd thread is in Chit Chat. |
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we're best just sticking to what we all agree on then, theyve still got about .7 to .8 of a second to improve on to get it to trial levels
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sky+HD box
200 mb broadband LV about 0.3 ahead of sky here |
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how far is RTV clock behind atomic clock iyo?
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2020-06-03 23:00
(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm) to 2020-06-04 18:27 (yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm) Horse Racing: £9.15 Total P&L: £9.15 ![]() Less time p1ssing around with clocking pics I don't use might help. |
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duncan idaho • June 4, 2020 6:29 PM BST
how far is RTV clock behind atomic clock iyo? Mines exactly 2s |
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the 0.7 seconds helps
![]() Horse Racing: £488.45 Total P&L: £488.45 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 26 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:30 04-Jun-20 18:33 15.01 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:15 04-Jun-20 18:21 19.84 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:55 04-Jun-20 17:58 50.60 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 2m Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:40 04-Jun-20 17:45 26.93 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:20 04-Jun-20 17:24 28.34 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 5f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:05 04-Jun-20 17:09 27.78 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 16:45 04-Jun-20 16:49 21.66 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 16:30 04-Jun-20 16:38 13.58 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 16:10 04-Jun-20 16:13 12.67 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Grp 3 04-Jun-20 15:55 04-Jun-20 15:59 16.56 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:35 04-Jun-20 15:44 21.19 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 15:20 04-Jun-20 15:24 55.30 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:00 04-Jun-20 15:03 19.68 Horse Racing / Clairefontaine 4th Jun : 1600m 4yo+ Hcap 04-Jun-20 14:35 04-Jun-20 14:52 29.84 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 14:45 04-Jun-20 14:48 9.20 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 14:25 04-Jun-20 14:29 36.45 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 14:10 04-Jun-20 14:14 -10.49 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:50 04-Jun-20 13:52 27.03 Horse Racing / Clairefontaine 4th Jun : 2400m 3yo Stks 04-Jun-20 13:25 04-Jun-20 13:39 6.03 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:35 04-Jun-20 13:38 1.84 |
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cheers dusty...and how are you measuring that (just so i compare like with like)?
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Not for me. racingtv has mostly been 1.4 behind live at most tracks last couple of years, sometimes 1.2.
BVL has sped up 0.5 on todays showing = leaves 0.1, probably 0.3 improvement to come for it to be at trial time (0.6 behind live). |
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Seems I can give RL 0.7s and not have to do so much work
![]() Horse Racing: £481.23 Total P&L: £481.23 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 20 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:30 04-Jun-20 18:33 8.99 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:15 04-Jun-20 18:21 25.08 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:55 04-Jun-20 17:58 29.95 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 2m Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:40 04-Jun-20 17:45 1.56 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:20 04-Jun-20 17:24 51.39 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 5f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:05 04-Jun-20 17:09 4.14 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 16:45 04-Jun-20 16:49 21.69 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 16:30 04-Jun-20 16:38 18.28 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 16:10 04-Jun-20 16:13 5.49 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Grp 3 04-Jun-20 15:55 04-Jun-20 15:59 45.15 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:35 04-Jun-20 15:44 21.97 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 15:20 04-Jun-20 15:24 33.56 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:00 04-Jun-20 15:03 30.74 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 14:45 04-Jun-20 14:48 9.21 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 14:25 04-Jun-20 14:29 25.49 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 14:10 04-Jun-20 14:14 33.12 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:50 04-Jun-20 13:52 11.84 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:35 04-Jun-20 13:38 31.13 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 13:15 04-Jun-20 13:17 10.06 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Hcap 04-Jun-20 13:00 04-Jun-20 13:05 62.39 |
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duncan idaho • June 4, 2020 6:39 PM BST
cheers dusty...and how are you measuring that (just so i compare like with like)? I have an atomic clock here I place it right next to the RTV clock and it's exactly 2s ahead |
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haha wd dusty
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I'll need to get the big dish set back up for the french stuff and a sky q box to get the extra .7 speeds
![]() Horse Racing: £387.27 Total P&L: £387.27 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 18 of 18 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:30 04-Jun-20 18:33 9.80 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:15 04-Jun-20 18:21 7.04 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:55 04-Jun-20 17:58 8.95 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 2m Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:40 04-Jun-20 17:45 14.99 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:20 04-Jun-20 17:24 32.86 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 5f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:05 04-Jun-20 17:09 5.34 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 16:45 04-Jun-20 16:49 5.64 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 16:30 04-Jun-20 16:38 -5.88 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 16:10 04-Jun-20 16:13 6.39 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Grp 3 04-Jun-20 15:55 04-Jun-20 15:59 147.18 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:35 04-Jun-20 15:44 21.56 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:00 04-Jun-20 15:03 28.40 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 14:45 04-Jun-20 14:48 27.71 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 14:25 04-Jun-20 14:29 11.96 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 14:10 04-Jun-20 14:14 31.31 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:50 04-Jun-20 13:52 7.91 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:35 04-Jun-20 13:38 1.15 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 13:15 04-Jun-20 13:17 24.96 |
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Looks like people winning every race there despite at least 2 drones on track and a bus load of twitchers side on at the track.
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I'm going to give Jodrell Bank a ring
Horse Racing: £73.20 Total P&L: £73.20 Horse Racing Showing 1 - 13 of 13 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 1m2f Hcap 04-Jun-20 18:15 04-Jun-20 18:21 -15.00 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 2m Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:40 04-Jun-20 17:45 19.83 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 17:20 04-Jun-20 17:24 -10.00 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 16:45 04-Jun-20 16:49 -10.00 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 16:30 04-Jun-20 16:38 121.45 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 16:10 04-Jun-20 16:13 -10.00 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Grp 3 04-Jun-20 15:55 04-Jun-20 15:59 1.02 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 15:35 04-Jun-20 15:44 -5.00 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 6f Hcap 04-Jun-20 15:20 04-Jun-20 15:24 -10.00 Horse Racing / Newc 4th Jun : 7f Hcap 04-Jun-20 14:45 04-Jun-20 14:48 -10.00 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 14:25 04-Jun-20 14:29 -5.00 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Nov Stks 04-Jun-20 13:50 04-Jun-20 13:52 -15.00 Horse Racing / Newm 4th Jun : 5f Mdn Stks 04-Jun-20 13:15 04-Jun-20 13:17 20.90 Profit and Loss is shown net of commission. All times are UKT ? unless otherwise stated. |
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everyone is winning but yet everyone is complaining
0.6 behind aint going to make us millions ![]() |
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It's a lot easier just now as the tracks aren't infested with track players and face timers.
Wont be so good if speeds don't improve before they come back so the .6 is much needed for a much fairer level playing field |
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doesnt really explain why newcastle plays so well though yet its miles behind way further than rtv
but yes trial speed is needed to get rid of the facetimers |
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gold for willie again...
RacingLuck Joined: 18 Apr 17 Replies: 153004 Jun 20 18:09 doesnt really explain why newcastle plays so well though yet its miles behind way further than rtv please explain how you know what the blv delay is? |
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So RL what is the RTV clock speed measured against atomic clock?
I have to say I’m very sceptical, sorry if I’m turning all unhappy happyhibby But my RTV clock to atomic clock was 1.7s It’s now 2s Last time ruk clock changed it went from 0.7s behind atomic to 1.7s...when HD came out They slowed it down in real terms (where SD was slower than HD) If you remember at the time rat pack was asking question re.speed on our behalf Now bootman is. Which makes me wonder if they have again cynically slowed RTV down to improve the look of their latest new release (new LV) And that’s why RTV tracks tricky, cos they are actually getting slower rather than quicker? |
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Which makes me wonder if they have again cynically slowed RTV down to improve the look of their latest new release (new LV)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- why would they slow down RTV ch426 to 'improve' things by anything from 0.1 to 0.4 secs (or whatever some people think it has improved by) dusty... surely they would slow it down to make it comparable to the trial scenario of a few months ago...???? i think you've stepped beyond even my boundaries of cynicism dusty... and that's going some. |
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just looks to me like things have gone horribly wrong since they added the needless graphics on to the speeded up pics from the trial a few months back and they have no idea how to rectify it...
easy solution is to bin the graphics that nobody wants or needs... why they simply don't go back to the position they had during the trial period is unfathomable here... |
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Non of us yet know (but we will once FTers get back on track) as to the position in speeds at present.
I’m simply playing devil’s advocate, based on what bits of evidence we do have. I’m not entirely sure I agree that they’d have to go to such an ‘nth’ degree to balance things, nothing was written in stone about speed beneficiaries. They could possibly have said, ‘well our major target audience are dumb c nuts who want to be told which horse to lose money on, so add all this extra stuff for them, slow the tv pics a bit and have some middling area where everyone seems ‘happy’’. |
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In a nutshell I’m open to suggestion as to why, yet again, the RTV clock has lost time relative to real time just as a new product is released?
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i still don't understand why we can't have 'raw' pictures on BLV for RTV tracks like we do on SKY tracks...
i asked thebootman the Q yesterday but as of now there has been no response... |
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talking of raw pictures, why can't they do what was done decades ago on old atr ie have a red button option for the basic feed, maybe charge a fee if they want
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RTV Xtra on the RTV website...
great service... pity the pics are so slow it is a complete and utter waste of time for in running purposes... seems weird they are so slow... oh well. just one of those things i guess... |
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RTV ch874...
what is the point of it...? could it not be used for 'raw' pictures without graphics or presenters or pundits...? strange... keep smiling tho. |
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ccould it not be used for 'raw' pictures without graphics or presenters or pundits...?
...that would be beautiful |
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Holy 5hit
I’ve just gone to check again at the clocks and they 1.5s apart now F ucknose what’s going on |
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ease 05 Jun 20 08:47
talking of raw pictures, why can't they do what was done decades ago on old atr ie have a red button option for the basic feed, maybe charge a fee if they want bookmakers dont want in running..didnt you know? |
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On the clock scenario
Wasn’t there a suggestion that during racing the clock comes from a different origin than when they are ‘in the studio’ ? |
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I’ll test again during racing as that’s how I’ve always compared them, not in the downtime like whatever this morning show s hitty is
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clocks were 1.5secs apart here yday
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Which clocks you test duncan?
RTV v atomic? (Speaking clock if you don’t have an atomic clock) |
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Willie Shafter.05 Jun 20 09:17
bookmakers dont want in running..didnt you know? I did but shoved it to the back of my mind,bookmakers(off course), as they are now are irrelevant to me.Wishful thinking that it were so in the real world. |
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speaking clock vs sky rtv is 1.1 seconds apart here?
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I’ve just used the speaking clock, but I only have mobile to access it (which I think delays it because it’s about a second behind the atomic clock)
But on the RTV clock right now (before racing coverage starts) the gap is under a second between the mobile speaking clock and RTV clock Which isn’t scientific, but might suggest that your sky box is infact delayed |
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Just in case an oversight has occurred you are on ch426 ain’t ya?
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ch 426
just done many tests now and keep getting 0.97s apart has anyone got sky hd box and speaking clock on pc to test aswel? |