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UK racing to resume on/before 1st June.
UK racing to resume on/before 1st June.
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The risk outdoors is EXTREMELY low.
This link talks about transmission and how much exposure you need depending on the situation you find yourselves in. https://bit.ly/3fTNQVI IF you add a regular testing programme into the mix AND the measures the BHA is talking about to mitigate the remaining risk, I really don't see any reason why racing could not resume as things stand. |
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Thank you Latalomne. One of the most insightful things ive read about the virus recently. Cheers
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Lets hope SAGE have read this? https://bit.ly/3fTNQVI
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Latalomne, this was well known before the lock down, in fact BoJo himself said the best place to be is out in the fresh air. When the lock down come along all of this sensible and well known information was suppressed in order to avoid resistance to the rules. It's just another example of the bad science we have been fed through this whole episode. Good link everyone should read it.
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does anyone know ?
if stall handlers , jockeys etc who will be living onsite in self contained racing sites will need to quarantine for 2 weeks beforehand I havnt seen it mentioned anywhere so maybe not if they do and racing resumes on the first june they would need to start that in 3/4 days and would assume the go ahead would need to be given very soon |
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Well if the BHA see's that video clip of people getting off that but this morning surely they will push hard for 1st June start! If they cut the top off it and stuck a few tables in they could all have a day out at Epsom.
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Bha sticking to 1st of june for racing to return, looks very likely it will be back monday the 1st of june right enough
Following the UK government publishing a provisional timetable for the return of professional sport on Monday, the racing industry’s leaders continue to plan for a resumption of racing from 1 June. To this end, the BHA’s Flat Pattern Committee has today published an update to the programme of Pattern and Listed races for the first seven days of June to reflect this new provisional timetable. The plan remains to stage the 2000 and 1000 Guineas on 6 and 7 June respectively, with Royal Ascot on its scheduled dates from 16-20 June. There will be some changes to the order of races at Royal Ascot, which will be confirmed as soon as possible. In addition, the Derby and Oaks will be scheduled for Saturday 4 July, with the Eclipse moved back a day to the Sunday (5 July). Under these circumstances, the Eclipse would be restricted to four-years-old and upwards. The exact timetable for the resumption of racing will remain subject to agreement from government and an assessment by public health officials of the risks posed by the virus at that time. Any changes to the timetable are likely to have an impact on the programme for Pattern and Listed races. A provisional race programme for the first seven days of non-Pattern races was released on 7 May, and we expect to publish further detail on this period, as well as a provisional race programme for the second seven day period, later this week. The aim remains to provide, as soon as possible, at least one Pattern or Listed opportunity covering the key distances for the different sections of the population for three-year-olds and up, with a suitable number of novice/conditions races for two-year-olds scheduled to ensure horses can have a chance to run prior to Royal Ascot. Pattern and Listed races will now also be open to international runners. We must emphasise that this provisional plan may still need to be adjusted according to when and under what circumstances racing is safely able to recommence. Races to be run between 3 June and 4 June Classic Trial (10f 3yo Group 3) Snowdrop (8f 3+ f Listed) Pavilion (6f 3yo Group 3) Races to be run on Friday 5 June Abernant (6f 3+ Group 3) Brigadier Gerard (10f 4+ Group 3) Paradise (8f 3+ Listed) Lingfield Oaks Trial (11½f 3yo f Listed) Lingfield Derby Trial (11½f 3yo cg Listed) Coronation Cup (12f 4+ Group 1) Races to be run on Saturday 6 June 2000 Guineas (8f 3yo cf Group 1) *Dahlia (10f 4+ f Group 2) Palace House (5f 3+ Group 3) Sagaro (16f 4+ Group 3) Newmarket (10f 3yo cg Listed) (*Note: Distance change of the Dahlia to 10f) Races to be run on Sunday 7 June 1000 Guineas (8f 3yo f Group 1) Pretty Polly (10f 3yo f Listed) Buckhounds (12f 4+ Listed) Cecil Frail (6f 3+ f Listed) Spring Trophy (7f 3+ Group 3) Pinnacle (12f 4+ f Group 3) About the Flat Pattern Committee The Flat Pattern Committee (FPC) advises and makes recommendations to the BHA Board on matters relating to maintaining and improving the programme of Flat Pattern and Listed races. During the Covid-19 pandemic, the FPC will help ensure that a suitable programme is delivered for the horses that are most likely to provide a future fundamental role on behalf of the breed. Membership of the FPC: Lydia Hislop (C) Emma Berry Harry Charlton Andy Clifton Philip Freedman William Haggas Rishi Persad Ruth Quinn Simon Crisford Julian Richmond-Watson Nick Smith Nicholas Wrigley Welcome to our new website! Like any new website you might come across things that need fixing, please let us know and we will get these resolved as quickly as possible. In the meantime, we would love to hear your feedback. Email us at info@britishhorseracing.com to tell us what you think. We hope you enjoy the new site. Don't show this message again. OKAY, CONTINUE |
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Lot of optimism regarding RA going ahead on the 16th.....Yes now 1.7/1.74
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Amazing how a couple of bha updates improve the optimism for the 1st June go ahead when it’s entirely out of their hands!
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tbf it's the Government who gave the BHA the 1st of june date, not the other way about this time
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Think the death rates would have to rocket for boris to roll back now
They are likely to increase but they will present however they like Boris talks out of both sides of his mouth One min he doesn’t want to chance a second spike...then it seems he does |
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I think the economy and Brexit are worrying him to death.
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with a contraction of 5.8% in the economy in one month and far far more to come
everyone should be very worried too..little money to pay for public services(includes the nhs) so huge tax rises to come and some want the lockdown to continue for months |
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The official Bank of England prediction is that the economy will shrink by 25% by the end of the year. When you consider that the public sector employs about 65% in this country that's a huge impact. Where are the taxes going to come from? I am not sure how you get out of that for a long time.
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Regarding the economy I think there is no chance of a sovereign debt crisis because the bank of england will buy government debt to prevent it happening. Investors know that once the recovery is complete the UK will control the deficit, because we have a good track record of doing so. There is no need to make commitments now. People who talk about having to pay for supporting the economy during the pandemic are wrong. Government debt to GDP levels can stay high, and if they need to fall that can happen through growth.
The Gov shouldnt be talking about big tax rises now imo, because people spend less if they think tax rises are coming. Although if you look at the countries all doing well in this pandemic they all have (higher tax than the UK) More money per head of the population towards health and care systems of its people.! |
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When Australia have bush fires they create fire breaks
Boris is now committed to adding kindling |
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1.6 or so is over the odds in my opinion.
If you look at the stats as you would the "form". The death rate and critical care bed useage are going down steadily. Many other countries are relaxing rules, without any overwhelming spike of infections and deaths. There would have to be significant uptick pre 1st June in critical care beds/deaths. As the virus takes a few days to get hold of you, and deaths seem to be 2/3 weeks or more after admission to hospital from what I've read. It just seems likely 1st June will be fine. Whether the further relaxation on 1st June sends it up or not is irrelevant to this market. |
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1st June has to be a certainty now, we've had updates every other day for the past 2 months from the BHA telling us how racing would be ready at a moments notice once given the start date, well they've had that now, so if they failed the requirements now it would be highly embarrassing.
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The one thing that will help,even if they mess it up is the clear message now from the Govt that we are adopting a herd immunity approach anyway.
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1st June has to be a certainty now. Be very careful if getting involved in these markets. Over the years ive seen them make fools of people.
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1.58 available that restarts on or before June 1
Am very tempted |
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taken it !
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Good luck Posy, I hope you collect. We need racing back asap.
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gl posy..one of us will win.
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Its the 1.58 that would worry me when betting this market. If there was a huge substance behind the re-start of Racing I would expect 1.07 upwards. The problem is if Racing starts 2nd 3rd etc youve done your dosh!!
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did you put it up sofia ?
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dreary,dreary me betting on whether a death rate, or rate of people catching virus goes up or down,the bottom has been reached
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My post was really to highlight the fact how the BHA have been highly vocal with all their plans throughout this, well they've talked the talk now they can walk the walk is what I was trying to point out.
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no posy..I foolishly got involved a week or so back at 3.05 no.
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wouldnt put a penny on either way but great that plans are in place should they get the go-ahead
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This market is not a reflection of what date Racing will start. Its a highly mature trading market that is all.
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The official Bank of England prediction is that the economy will shrink by 25% by the end of the year. When you consider that the public sector employs about 65% in this country that's a huge impact. Where are the taxes going to come from? I am not sure how you get out of that for a long time.
truehoncho are you sure ;I thought the public sector was a lot less. |
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I’ve layed it and am happy doing so
If racing comes back I get paid If racing doesn’t, I get paid |
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follow the french / german / australian / hong kong protocol and nobody's in any greater danger than they would be going to get their groceries. don't know if the stalls handlers are onside, like everyone on furlough if you're getting paid for doing jack there's going to an understandable reticence to get off your backside until the free money dries up.
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Hi Posy, yes you are right. I apologise. It seems that only less than 20% are directly employed by the Government but about 40% rely on public sector business. When I was at school it was much greater.
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I think the odds on racing June 1st are faulted, but this market is more volatile than the USA Dow index.
We're looking at a 1 day window, a government that haven't got a clue, the situation in other countries (to a lessor extent) and a R factor that could rise over the next week and there's no telling what this number is in the final week in May. A go ahead is probably the rightful favorite, but i see the odds more akin to 10/11 and 11/10. |
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The crucial part, on a wider point re: the Govt's real thinking, is what they do if/when the R does go above 1.
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They don't tell you.
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agree honcho..it's herd immunity by stealth(masquerading as bad luck and slight incompetence)
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