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By:
truehoncho
When: 30 Apr 20 15:33
'providing'
By:
DOUBLED
When: 30 Apr 20 15:35
180,000 people a year die from cancer every year in the UK ... not a word on the news(unless its a "celebrity"), or films of distraught NHS staff or 5pm news conferences showing deaths per day on a chart ? Have we stopped selling cigarettes ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Apr 20 15:36
no but weve stopped punting
By:
truehoncho
When: 30 Apr 20 15:40
No you haven't. The fund was up last year and it will be next year. Its just a fact of life that working people make rich people richer and horse racing would collapse without punters.. A little sad I know but it just is.
By:
truehoncho
When: 30 Apr 20 15:43
Well Doubled, not only that but it has been made clear that Coronovirus kills more smokers/obese/ and diabetics than any other cohort of people. Are they going to change their lifestyles going forward? I doubt it.
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 30 Apr 20 15:46
I’ve said it before on this thread.. and will say it again. The people elect the government... if the people decide they have had enough of lockdown, then irrelevant what they speak about at the daily briefings. If the public decide lockdown is not for them, then not a lot that anyone can do about it.
By:
truehoncho
When: 30 Apr 20 15:48
They could taser your arse!!
By:
hulk23
When: 30 Apr 20 15:48
if it's done properly, behind closed doors and within guidelines, i can't imagine it would be any more dangerous than letting all and sundry continue to walk into the country from some of the worst affected countries in the world. including china.
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Apr 20 15:51
with or without opening betting shops,if its without you want government to restart racing for punters with accounts
By:
hulk23
When: 30 Apr 20 15:52
pretty sure new zealand didn't eradicate covid by stopping horse racing.
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 30 Apr 20 15:54
True honcho.. do you remember the trouble they had when trying to control a few doped up teenagers during the 2010 riots? If they try and keep people locked in for much longer.. they will be setting themselves up for civil unrest and disobedience the like of which we have never seen before imo. Everyone from the minute they are born is dying, cancer, heart attacks, strokes, diseases, virus’s etc. They are an unfortunate part of living on a planet with the make up it has. It would be interesting to have a poll on who is for carrying on and taking the best precautions as possible, or staying locked down. I would predict more than 80% would not vote to stay indoors.
By:
impossible123
When: 30 Apr 20 16:02
Maybe do the namesake of the winner of 2018 betfair hurdle to all the undesirables British and non-British not adhering to lockdown or refusing to pick fruit whilst on furloughed.
By:
duffy
When: 30 Apr 20 16:06
now wheres that switch!!! 30 Apr 20 14:46 
I’ve said it before on this thread.. and will say it again. The people elect the government... if the people decide they have had enough of lockdown, then irrelevant what they speak about at the daily briefings. If the public decide lockdown is not for them, then not a lot that anyone can do about it.


Good luck rallying the revolution, for the past 18 years on here every time the site crashes I've heard talk of the revolution and how we'll show Betfair who's boss as we're all moving to PurpleLaugh site comes back and we're all back.Grin
By:
thurnscoe thunder
When: 30 Apr 20 16:13
German R rate back down to 0.76 from 1 earlier in the week.
Pretty good news considering the panic and scaremongering going off about maybe reintroducing the full lockdown
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 30 Apr 20 16:14
Or perhaps realise that the masses will always outnumber the few. And although it is obviously tragic for any life to be lost to this horrible virus, at what point do the lives of those who are dying through not having their cancer treatment, operations, life saving transplants etc start to matter. The loss of life through deprivation, starvation and mental health issues. As these will without question kill far more than CoVid19 ever does. If they have not already surpassed it....
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 30 Apr 20 16:17
Duffy... no need for any revolution. Just some common sense and actual scientific based truths to come out from those making the decisions would suffice.
By:
truehoncho
When: 30 Apr 20 16:29
I do remember switch and you may be right. What about the ones in 1991!!

TT any story that can be sensationalised they will do it. The public has a short memory. It will just take in the story of the day and forget all about it the next day let alone scrutinise it for facts. Germany are up and running.
By:
duffy
When: 30 Apr 20 16:47
Germany are up and running.  really?
By:
thurnscoe thunder
When: 30 Apr 20 16:48
Frightening thing is to allow Germany, US, China a 6 week+ start on our economy

You have to laugh at the way we are dealing with things
Today they’ve reported that the biggest killer linked to Covid-19 is Heart disease very closely followed by Obesity. Between 30-40% of cases in each category.
Instead of a major clampdown on obesity which obviously will be linked to heart disease cases I would imagine as well
We have tv reporting on fast food outlets like KFC and McDonalds reopening and pictures of massive queues blocking street junctions.
Even got so called reporters saying how good it was to give people fast food outlets to look forward to ? Nearly choked on my breakfast
Just what we need let alone more traffic on the road taking kids out for a trip to the drive through for a happy meal

You can’t make it up half the time
By:
duffy
When: 30 Apr 20 16:49
Germany are not up and running of course, but even if they were, you're trying to compare a Premier league outfit with a Conference team when it comes to the level they are at when dealing with this whole thing. We are way behind being able to follow them.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 30 Apr 20 16:55
With recessions Blighty has a history of being *First In, Last Out* its frightening what is in store for this country.
By:
hulk23
When: 30 Apr 20 16:58
Even got so called reporters saying how good it was to give people fast food outlets to look forward to ? Nearly choked on my breakfast

sausage & egg mcmuffin ?
By:
thurnscoe thunder
When: 30 Apr 20 17:02
Lol Double breakfast McMuffin
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 30 Apr 20 17:11
My point has been consistent all the way through. They were under prepared for this, got into a mad panic and made decisions without any rational behind them. They are now stuck, as we didn’t go into proper lockdown, and yet enough of one to cripple the economy and mean that whatever the outcome of the virus, the next few years are going to be far far worse.
By:
now wheres that switch!!!
When: 30 Apr 20 17:30
Here’s hoping they can a grip on things.. that this virus can be contained until a successful vaccine is found and life with some form of normality can be seen again soon.
By:
JJmbe
When: 30 Apr 20 17:34

Apr 30, 2020 -- 4:48PM, thurnscoe thunder wrote:


Frightening thing is to allow Germany, US, China a 6 week+ start on our economyYou have to laugh at the way we are dealing with thingsToday they’ve reported that the biggest killer linked to Covid-19 is Heart disease very closely followed by Obesity. Between 30-40% of cases in each category.Instead of a major clampdown on obesity which obviously will be linked to heart disease cases I would imagine as wellWe have tv reporting on fast food outlets like KFC and McDonalds reopening and pictures of massive queues blocking street junctions.Even got so called reporters saying how good it was to give people fast food outlets to look forward to ? Nearly choked on my breakfast Just what we need let alone more traffic on the road taking kids out for a trip to the drive through for a happy mealYou can’t make it up half the time


Both the articles i read today associated biggest killers being dementia and obesity, do you have a link for heart disease.

By:
JJmbe
When: 30 Apr 20 17:36
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-a-third-of-all-covid-19-hospital-patients-die-with-dementia-and-obesity-carrying-the-highest-risk-11980894
By:
thurnscoe thunder
When: 30 Apr 20 17:48
Sorry I was typing it without thinking too much mate, you’re right to point out it was dementia, I heard heart disease mentioned in the report but got my facts wrong when I typed it out on here
By:
JJmbe
When: 30 Apr 20 17:53
No prob, got a bit of heart disease in the family so always interested to read anything related.
By:
truehoncho
When: 30 Apr 20 18:01
Yes Duffy up and running really. They are getting back to work and the whole re lock down thing is just media scaremongering. In 4-6 weeks they won't be far off full pelt. Racing on fotball on and where will we be? Hopefully not far behind. NHS is flying, looking to catch up on missed operation soon.
By:
scoobytoo
When: 30 Apr 20 19:11
Owners and trainers should find out in the next week what races will be staged when the sport resumes following shutdown.

Karl Burke and others have claimed that not knowing the likely programme was hindering their preparation for a resumption.

But he and fellow licence-holders were sent an update from the Resumption of Racing group on Thursday night, revealing that courses have this week been invited to submit expressions of interest to stage fixtures.

The update stated: "To help trainers plan, during the next week we will be developing a provisional programme for the first seven days of racing following resumption – whatever the resumption date.

"We will then subsequently publish the rest of the provisional programme up until the end of June. This will be as close as possible to the original programme for the period, which means we will be looking to stage roughly the same number of races by type, class and distance.

"Ahead of this, we will issue a fixture cancellation notice for all fixtures that were originally scheduled to take place during May and June. This simply reflects the fact that we will be publishing a new provisional programme and does not seek to pre-empt or pre-judge any government decisions around lockdown or resumption."

No racing has been staged in Britain since March 17 and a return is dependent on getting approval from the government and meeting public health guidelines.

The resumption group, made up of representatives from the BHA, the Horsemen’s Group, the Racecourse Association and the Levy Board (HBLB), warned the new programme will offer lower
prize-money.

"In normal circumstances, racecourses provide approximately half of prize money, but with betting shops, which drive media rights income, closed and no crowds, their contributions will be significantly impacted," it said.

"Every effort will be made to keep prize money as high as possible, but reductions below recent levels are inevitable."

Details of lost Pattern and Listed events that will be rescheduled, in the second half of May in a best-case scenario, will be shared "at the earliest possible opportunity".

To help provide opportunities when jump racing resumes at the beginning of July, winners since the beginning of February will retain their novice status until November 30.

Nick Rust: met the sports minister this week
Nick Rust: met the sports minister this week
Edward Whitaker
The update also revealed that BHA’s chair Annamarie Phelps and chief executive Nick Rust met Sports Minister Nigel Huddleston earlier this week to discuss plans for resumption and the wider economic impact of Covid-19 on racing.

"The Minister is aware of and supports the work being undertaken for resumption at the earliest safe opportunity," the resumption group said.

"The discussion outlined that any restart would be subject to advice of public health authorities and could not apply undue pressure on medical services and available testing. It also considered how continued exercise of racehorses during the lockdown could reduce the time for competition to resume."
By:
ekbalko
When: 30 Apr 20 23:37
Might not be televised if all bookies are shut.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 01 May 20 17:59
Somebody said it was a volatile market, Yes out to 2.68 yesterday, back into 1.4 now, a traders delight i'd have thought and still a month to go!
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 01 May 20 18:57
It certainly is a volatile market!

Yes : A high of 2.68 and a low of 1.25!

No : A high of 4.60 and a low of 1.60!
By:
adge
When: 01 May 20 20:30
Beverley have today announced the cancellation of their two meetings in june
By:
metro john
When: 01 May 20 21:31
possible
By:
bustino
When: 02 May 20 07:50
Another sat no racing/rugby/footbal will be v surprised if isnt re-opened before June..........Think Ireland will re-open first and a week later UK.......What amount will be anyones guess i would think while bookies remain closed it will be low but at least something ....

TV rights basically finance racing at the smaller tracks will this be viable w/out tv rights providing significant funds.

Lot of small owners suffering ur paying 3 ton a week for a 60 rated nag and the priority will be to stage the group races which impact the race horse breed.

Also if there is limited races you will get group horses running in handicaps giving small owner little chance reduced prize money on offer but anything will be welcomed......
By:
geordie1956
When: 02 May 20 08:27
They seem to be concentrating on the higher grade racing when it returns but not good for the average owner and syndicates who are still paying training fees which for the most part wil be lower grade handicappers ...
I prefer watching the better horses but realistically we need to try & cater for all racehorses within the limitations of what will be restricted meetings / a maximum of 12 runners etc ...
Could be a big drop in numbers of horses in training sometime soon with the knock on effect to smaller trainers
Prize money likely to be even lower
Big decisions
By:
MythWA
When: 02 May 20 08:59
Which racecourses will host the big races?. I would think Newmarket RM. The course is ideally located away from large populations many trainers on doorstep vast open spaces in and around the action. July could be used for extra stables gallops etc helping with any social distancing issues.
By:
truehoncho
When: 02 May 20 09:10
You are right Geordie but the sooner we get started the sooner the lower grade horses will get their races. Owners will be less likely to take them out if they see we are up and running. We need 2 and 3yo races asap and I think by end of June we should see a decent programme.
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