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By:
isleham
When: 05 Apr 20 19:41
i must point out i am totally abiding by the government guidelines just in case people think otherwise
but everything in perspective it may kill 20000 which is totally sad and also for their nearest and dearest
but is no reason the rest of us should be talking about the end of civilisation as we know it and saying we
should be in lockdown for years..some reality please
By:
Ramruma
When: 06 Apr 20 11:24
Austria is ending its lockdown next week so perhaps the end is in sight.
By:
dambuster
When: 06 Apr 20 11:27
The people of this country have a tipping point, longer lockdowns will mean more chance of civil unrest, the govt has a very fine line to tread.
Ignore The labour luvvies telling us the govt have done things wrong, imagine if Silly b0ll0x and Abbot were in charge, i shudder to think..
By:
Ramruma
When: 06 Apr 20 11:30
You are worried that Silly b0ll0x and Abbot might infect themselves and half the Cabinet?
By:
equine flew
When: 06 Apr 20 11:48
Peter Hitchens is due to appear on TalkRadio at noon today.  He will be presenting the case, he has been advocating for some time, i.e that there is no scientific evidence that the lockdown is reducing deaths.  IT should be lifted at once, and the cost on the economy could result in far more deaths and hardship in the long term that the pandemic.

This is not Hitchens going out on a limb, there is a frowning scientific momentum behind this claim
By:
equine flew
When: 06 Apr 20 11:49
Peter Hitchens is due to appear on TalkRadio at noon today.  He will be presenting the case, he has been advocating for some time, i.e that there is no scientific evidence that the lockdown is reducing deaths.  IT should be lifted at once, and the cost on the economy could result in far more deaths and hardship in the long term that the pandemic.

This is not Hitchens going out on a limb, there is a frowning scientific momentum behind this claim
By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 11:53
hitchens should maybe imagine the amount of death here and worldwide without lockdown

maybe he should go work in a hospital for a while after lockdown lifted aswell
By:
Latalomne
When: 06 Apr 20 12:20

Apr 6, 2020 -- 11:24AM, Ramruma wrote:


Austria is ending its lockdown next week so perhaps the end is in sight.


The Austrian response will be done in stages, with events still banned until at least the end of June.

By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 13:47
when the Edinburgh festival was cancelled i got a shock , august ?


they would obviously be in talks with government before that decision was made so far in advance so must know more than we do , only reason we are not being told is the mental effect on many of this lasting months instead of weeks
By:
stewarts rise
When: 06 Apr 20 13:48
Royal Ascot not to resume on 16th June now shorter than Any racing on or before 1st May! Seems rather odd to me.
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 06 Apr 20 13:51
Guessing thats because everything would need to be pushed back, maybe Royal Ascot will be run 6 weeks later.
By:
Ramruma
When: 06 Apr 20 13:55
Royal Ascot probably needs to be coordinated with the Queen's schedule.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Apr 20 13:57
equine flew 06 Apr 20 10:49 
Peter Hitchens is due to appear on TalkRadio at noon today.  He will be presenting the case, he has been advocating for some time, i.e that there is no scientific evidence that the lockdown is reducing deaths.  IT should be lifted at once, and the cost on the economy could result in far more deaths and hardship in the long term that the pandemic.

so,why has the infection/death rate levelled out since lockdown? imagine the state of the nhs if there hadnt been a lockdown? people would be dying everywhere...they cant cope now.
Hitchens is now in the clown league.
By:
equine flew
When: 06 Apr 20 14:02
Its not my argument Willie, but HE would likely say.   The impact of any uk lockdown would not yet me reflected in the daily statistics.   So has it levelled already?

He would also say, that the death rate per week this year from respiratory infections has been constant.  Covid-19 obviously up, but influenze and pneumonia dramatically down.  Lots of the people dying right now WITH C19 but have died anyway without C19.

Whether he is right or wrong, debate and challenge is important to arrive at the best decisions even if the challenges proved incorrect.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Apr 20 14:07
He would also say, that the death rate per week this year from respiratory infections has been constant.

maybe so,but they wernt rising at alarming daily rate either.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 06 Apr 20 14:07
if lock down is an over reaction why did china close half their economy?

https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 14:10
what kind of ascot with nothing having a prep run , because that would be a likely scenario tbh as time passes

ascot thrives on the prospect of competition built up over the season to date , be no classic , trial , group winners that build up to making royal ascot what it is
By:
isleham
When: 06 Apr 20 14:19
surely better to have it with no build than not at all
but definitely will not have it behind closed doors..too much money lost
so pretty certain not to have it in june
By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 14:29
ascot a mid season championship , be almost no champions in waiting tbh

we need the first 4 classics first imo

will get to stage be no prog as we know it , will start july and fin end nov with a pop up schedule leading to champ day end of year at best with limited but higher quality meetings , half a season is better than none and imagine its part of any plan or should be

tho im guessing tbh more in hope than anything
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 06 Apr 20 14:33
Lifting the lockdown isn't an either/or proposition (i.e., keeping all the current lockdown provisions vs lifting them all). It's a question of reviewing how the current rules are working and tweaking things in the light of experience.

For instance, supermarkets have worked out a system of queuing and restricting numbers which everyone seems content with, so why not extend that to a few other shops or businesses? Or, if non-critical care in areas outside the big cities is still within capacity, allow local, behind-closed-doors sporting fixtures under strictly limited conditions. The BHA's Newmarket model, for instance. If the situation deteriorates further before the event takes place, then it can always be cancelled.

What must not happen when the current three-week period comes up for review on Friday is just a rubber-stamping of a further three weeks with no hint of light at the end of the tunnel. Even saying it'll be for just another seven days before a further review would be something at least. But if they try to carry on into the darkness like this, people will take matters into their own hands, with worse consequences.

After all, they only have to point to the example of the SNP's Chief Medical Officer for guidance.
By:
isleham
When: 06 Apr 20 14:34
careful hello anyone planning a resumption sometime in the future is usually instantly vilified on here re james tate and his
newmarket friends
By:
isleham
When: 06 Apr 20 14:37
also do we think there will be an even more lockdown just for the easter weekend..fine weather
and as a result the young and irresponsible going wild in parks and on beaches
opinions anyone??
By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 14:37
i would agree with them ,

anything must be dependant on human safety and there being no risk to public , or virus re entering population once controlled
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Apr 20 14:48
how in fcuks name can the lockdown be relented whilst tens of thousands are still infected and hundreds dying still ev day..how wont the figures just escalate once more?
By:
11kv
When: 06 Apr 20 14:56
Jan      Feb     Mar     Apr     May     June    July   Aug      Sep     Oct     Nov     Dec 2019

ENGLAND AND WALES    53,772    45,696    43,815    44,003    44,290    38,511    42,183    38,719    39,915    46,133    45,111    47,384

Recorded deaths...2019
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Apr 20 15:55
I see there were many posts, but I've not read the thread lately. May I ask if the majority think horse racing will resume come 1st May in some capacity eg behind closed doors? Personally I doubt it, but hope I'm wrong.
By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 15:58
looks more likely elvis will marry Churchill without social distance wedding on 1st may
By:
equine flew
When: 06 Apr 20 16:08
Deaths in uk down to 403 today, so numbers coming down before social distancing effect comes into play?
By:
the dealer
When: 06 Apr 20 16:12
difficult to gauge on one days figures, Scotland only had 2 but have changed the way they report deaths, far better to look at the week as a whole. there is so much not known about the virus, no vaccine yet, cant go on forever but cant see anything happening sports wise for some weeks yet
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Apr 20 16:28
To complicate matter further 7 lions contracted Covid-19 form their keeper in the Bronz Zoo New York ie Covid-19 could be transferred from a human to animals. If this is replicated in horses the chance of horse racing happening soon would be absolutely zilch.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Apr 20 16:41
equine flew Joined: 28 Aug 02
Deaths in uk down to 403 today, so numbers coming down before social distancing effect comes into play?

before social distancing? the numbers are dropping becos of social distancing surely? so,what if boris relaxes the distancing..wont those tens of thousands still infected start the escalation again?
By:
foxy
When: 06 Apr 20 16:43
Don’t want to nit pick but it was one tiger.
By:
hello :-)
When: 06 Apr 20 16:48
Mondays numbers can be low due to late reporting at weekend , if still low 2m very good news indeed
By:
isleham
When: 06 Apr 20 17:06
During the last three weeks Sunday doesn't look a good day for accuracy of reporting
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 06 Apr 20 17:10
Yes 5.10

No 1.23 

Shocked
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 06 Apr 20 17:15
mind boggling.
By:
impossible123
When: 06 Apr 20 17:39
Unless the BBC has got it wrong it says 6 other cats got it too ie Nadia (the tiger), her sister Azul, 2 Amur tigers and 3 African lions, but all are expected to make a full recovery.

Let's hope Bojo the tiger makes a speedy recovery too at St Thomas's.
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 06 Apr 20 17:56
Yes 5.00

No 1.24

Incredible Willie, don't you think?
By:
foxy
When: 06 Apr 20 18:10
Just checked at the zoo one tiger has it others are showing symptoms.
By:
duffy
When: 06 Apr 20 19:55
People still getting confused about the likely relaxing of the restrictions in the light of better numbers, Hancock can see the better numbers too but why then do we have him threatening to even ban exercise??

It's because when the moment comes where we believe we have the virus on the run, it's that precise time we need to be even more disciplined when it comes to the lock down, not a time thinking about relaxing the measures. This is the precise thing the GOVT were talking about when they were concerned about bringing the lock down in too soon and people getting tired of it.

There will be a time they have in their mind that we will have to stay locked up for whilst the virus dies on the streets, whatever they think that time is they'll then add a few more weeks to be on the safe side.

I'm also unsure as to how partial loosening of the restrictions will work, someone talked about the situation in Austria and how "small business's" will open up, well what's a small business, what type of business? where are the staff traveling in from, London business has staff traveling many miles to work and back, packing trains and buses, filling the roads with traffic !!!

Any partial lifting (and the GOVT will worry about this) will send the wrong message to the people desperate to break cover and it will undo all the good work that has already been done.

As for sport getting back to normal, well surely that's down the bottom of the necessity list, only today The Open Golf has been cancelled, an event that was scheduled for mid July, so the information they received before making that decision could not have been very encouraging

We all want to get back to normal, all of us do, but I think lots of people are being guided in their opinion by what they want to happen rather than what is most likely.
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