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Thanks Roggrain
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you wait all year for a decent day of sunday racing and ruk manage to destroy it,
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thanks foxy.
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Fair play to Punchestown as it must be hard to ensure that you feck it up all afternoon.
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Must be disappointed that the Peterborough finshed a minute before the Durkan , we could have the two big races on split screen crossing the line together .......shambolic .
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Fences omitted at cork now due to strong cross winds
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longest discussion,in depth look at the flapping bumper at huntington
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I wish the Peterborough chase did go back to midweek along with many other graded races
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Including those Haydock ones - foxy.
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Getting us ready for coverage for December 26
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Great winter afternoons onlooker and huge crowds all there for the racing with a drink after racing
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if when you can get a full screen shouty man blabs on about exactly foooking nothing to delay going to commentary,
split screen there had horses at punch looking like they were running down to fences at cork ![]() |
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Yesterday I was in the private room provided by racing tv at Aintree unbelievably they only shown Sandown and Aintree I had to use a tablet to watch Navan.
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What! No Wetherby.
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Mind you, I can remember when a big screen on course was a big novelty and in a betting shop you got the blower commentary that was probably 30 seconds delay. Getting any info from one course when you were attending another was unheard of and no internet. Checked my bets in the next day newspaper.
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That’s correct sageform I hadn’t really noticed that but definitely not shown in there.
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At least with the blower every horse you backed ran well.
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In the days before On-Course Betting Shops ... You had to go into the Tote Investors Office.
![]() But had to be a Member - and have an Account (Number) with them. |
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They were always very warm ,once your account ended in z you were tote prices only.
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How have they not managed to get back to their correct race time all afternoon ?
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There very relaxed
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the greatest concern was why ruk should have presenters at three tracks when there was never going to be time for any build up..racing profits going into the gravy train pockets
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it does seem pointless to send so many presenters to each racecourse when their thoughts aren't even offered bar the odd comment because of restricted time
wonder how much they get paid for each gig ... as former jockeys retire we seem to end up with more & more of these pundits ... anyone aware of any published profits for Racing TV? |
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saw that Gordon broooone at haddock,aintree yesterday behind the scenes ,presentation,s trophie,s etc ,who,s paying him besides ruk
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Tote credit offices are sadly missed. I spent most of the time between races in one when I was racing 2 or 3 days a week but since they closed them I have hardly ever been back. Best source of info on a racecourse.
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i agree totally with most on here . today was a tv farce . please , please get racing tv and courses together to sort this out . the coverage was amateurish, sold the product badly on a day after carry on sandown too . makes var look good . sorry , didn't switch to sky . chariot racing from dieppe by any chance ?
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Chances of it even being a Talking Point on Snooty On Sunday? Million?
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Media rights chair O'Neill 'very disappointed' as Durkan coverage suffers on RTV
Min won Sunday's John Durkan but the race had to be shown on a split screen alongside the Peterborough Chase on RTV Min won Sunday's John Durkan but the race had to be shown on a split screen alongside the Peterborough Chase on RTV Patrick McCann 1 of 1 By Richard Forristal UPDATED 8:18PM, DEC 8 2019 Conor O’Neill, general manager of Punchestown racecourse and also chairman of Horse Racing Ireland’s media rights committee, on Sunday admitted to being “very disappointed” that the John Durkan Memorial Chase was broadcast on a split screen with no commentary in the early stages. Following Irish racing’s switch to Racing TV after Racecourse Media Group acquired the rights from SIS in a deal that began on January 1, split-screen coverage is an issue that has become exacerbated due to the volume of tracks now on RTV’s roster. Given that Irish racecourses are budgeting for a ten per cent drop in media rights revenue for 2020 due to weak sterling and the closure of around 2,300 betting shops in Britain after a reduction in maximum FOBT stakes, the manner in which even elite Irish races are treated as second-class contests alongside lesser-quality British races on RTV has done nothing to defuse frustration at the situation. Conor Heaphy @heaph93 So to watch back the john durkan today on rtv online there’s a split screen with huntingdon and then cork. Why aren’t they using their dedicated feed? Shocking @RacingTV 2 16:46 - 8 Dec 2019 Twitter Ads information and privacy See Conor Heaphy's other Tweets The split-screen problem was evident on Saturday, when races at Navan shared the screen at different times with events at Aintree and Wetherby, and viewers’ simmering anger was palpable on social media on Sunday, when Punchestown’s Grade 1 and the Peterborough Chase had to share the screen, with no commentary audible for the Irish race save for the final 40 seconds. The scheduled off times for the first three Punchestown races were delayed by two minutes at the request of SIS. When Davy Russell was taken ill shortly before the third race after weighing out, his replacement Jack Kennedy had to weigh out afresh, meaning the subsequent feature event eventually went off 11 minutes late at 2.01pm, 18 seconds after the Peterborough started. Consequently, the climax of the Durkan had to share the screen with pictures from the 2.05pm at Cork. “It's very unfortunate and very disappointing, and the Durkan family are fantastic supporters of racing and of Punchestown, but at the same time these things happen,” O’Neill said in reference to the race sponsor when informed of the reduced commentary and split screen. “We can appreciate how it has occurred but from Punchestown's perspective it is very disappointing.” O’Neill is also chairman of the Association of Irish Racecourses, which ultimately ceded control of the rights to SIS when the new deal was agreed in 2016. Of the absence of commentary for much of the Durkan, he added: “It's an ongoing issue that we're in discussions over and we'll have to look into it. It's not ideal.” derek sims @delboysims · 6h Replying to @RacingTV Very poor today give Irish racing back to ATR Grade one race with no sound jonathan pack @jonopack £24 a month and forced to watch the John durkhan on mute with half a screen till on the way down to the last. even clashed with cork. Surely time to introduce Rtv ire or rtv 2.Yeah the winter season ticket is good and the club days etc but this is getting beyond a joke.Rant over 5 16:02 - 8 Dec 2019 · Sandiacre, England Twitter Ads information and privacy See jonathan pack's other Tweets The drop in media rights revenues for 2020 has been forecast for some time. With 18 fixtures a year, and each race worth approximately €7,000, for a track like Punchestown the total income from media rights would be in the region of €1 million, so a ten per cent reduction could cost around €100,000. An increase in the revenue received for streaming rights is expected, but not so much that it will negate the reduction from betting shops. Explaining the background to the issue, O’Neill said: “Within the current media rights contract there are a couple of variables, one being the sterling exchange rate and the other being the betting shop numbers. With Brexit, the sterling rate has fluctuated quite significantly over recent months and the betting shops, after the FOBT limits were cut, have reduced in number, so those two variables impact on the LBO [betting shop] element of the revenue tracks receive from media rights. "Racecourses' reliance on media rights is hugely significant, so losing ten per cent would obviously mean you have to adjust budgets and spend. It puts the emphasis on racecourses to increase additional revenue streams and look to attract more people through the gate to take the reliance off that." Responding to the issues on Sunday, a Racing TV spokesman said: “It was obviously very unfortunate that Davy Russell was taken ill prior to the John Durkan and we wish him all the very best. The episode triggered a ten-minute delay to the feature race which meant it started after the feature race in Britain, the Fitzdares Peterborough Chase, was already under way. "Unfortunately, we are always at the mercy of unforeseen delays in horseracing, but we will review Sunday’s output and the processes in place and will continue close dialogue with the BHA, HRI and the racecourses about the planning and management of race times to improve the scheduling of UK and Irish racing. "Good progress has been made this year on that front but there’s always more that can be done.” |
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The yellow flag debacle followed by the split screen debacle.
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Conor O’Neill, general manager of Punchestown racecourse and also chairman of Horse Racing Ireland’s media rights committee, on Sunday admitted to being “very disappointed” that the John Durkan Memorial Chase was broadcast on a split screen with no commentary in the early stages.
Let's not mention it went off 11 minutes 30 seconds after its scheduled off time. |
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According to Conor O'Neill it was SIS who requested the 11 minute delay.
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They requested a 2 minute delay...the rest was down to Davy Russell being unwell.
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Did they seriously believe that a UK based company would give priority to an Irish race that was 11 minutes late! It was Irelands decision to switch from ATR.
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This was a complete debacle that was always going to happen. Just a question of how many times?
The imbalance between the two channels is ridiculous. It is an bigger scandal that Virgin Media subscribers don't get the same benefits as everyone else. What is the excuse for that? |
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where are all the morons who were saying split screens won't be an issue?
just buy a bigger TV they said |
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and what irish racing thought they were doing switching to RUK I have no idea, 1 of the worst decisions irish racing has ever made
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Racing TV's response on Twitter to use their Digital Extra Channel on-line is laughable, especially if one is a Virgin Media viewer with no access to it.
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Correct - NO Extra Channel available on/via Virgin Cable TV.
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Yesterday was an absolute mess. Delays happen but it appeared no attempt was made to catch up. Regardless of what channel the Irish racing was on, Cork were not waiting on Punchestown.
Conor O’Neill needs to be questioned on his various roles, not be allowed to chuck out a few meaningless sentences from "Punchestown's perspective" about the big race only. |
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