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in running liquidity worst iv ever seen it
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correct howy,just been discussing him with a fellow successful in runner..i'd never heard of him and ive been on course for over 10yrs..of course the liquidity was massive back then,plenty can still make it pay if you're good..nearly pi$$ed myself at his nfl advice..back new england every week
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If he picked the strongest team it might not be too daft. Leaving De Bruyne on the bench cos he had a hard game against...Scotland
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Soft ground on the jumps season can still make big cash but otherwise, If you can get out the game and do something else then DO IT ! The party is over chaps. Only the most skillful players can survive, even then its a grind that takes lots of concentration to find any value.
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Adapt, become one of they skillful players imo
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skilful play against a sophisticated robot with a 1 second start
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"a sophisticated robot with a 1 second start"
Which robot is that? |
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be like robot
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Which robot is that?
bob. |
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That one out of superman 3
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Robby the Robot is a fictional character and science fiction icon who first appeared in the 1956 film Forbidden Planet
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aye it was before Leslie Nielsen started tripping over his own feet and acting all daft
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great film,watched 88 times.
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Regarding the comments on GPS and Total Performance Data, there was an interview that CEO Will Gordon did last week, in which he said that the company trades directly into Betfair in-running. Their quants run the GPS data through neural networks and perform Monte Carlo simulations thousands of times a second for each horse to come up with chances of winning. He also said that they have a few subscribers who buy the data in real time for their own modelling so as to beat on course players. I presume Robot is somewhere in here?
Relevant section is from about 19 to 23 minutes in. http://businessofbetting.libsyn.com/ep-108-will-duff-gordon |
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So a computer that can do 10,000 calculations in 0.2 seconds and feed it back in 0.4 seconds to user ....add that to Betfair Bots zero delay against everyone elses 1 second and the picture becomes clearer !
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suspecting it for a long time, something has to drive the markets with gps data
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last price matched 1.07 the clear winner there at dundalk is there no facetimers there or they done all there tank earlier
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seen that, 5.45 seemed to play well also
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@doubled
"add that to Betfair Bots zero delay" People keep referring to some BF bot that beats the in-play delay but I have yet to have anyone tell me what they mean by it. |
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self explanatory innit..
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I think he's kidding himself about improving liquidity
The market will just get more efficient with the metric that better determines the winner becoming the only one that matters and the market dies So if ARC tracks have been nuts deep in this for a while....where is the improved product that makes racing more enticing for the user from those tracks? |
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agree dusty
how can you compete against a bot doing those calculations in a 5f sprint, nigh impossible |
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You'll know when you got bad value...that will be when you get matched
Sounds a bit familiar doesnt it? |
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does for them 15 tracks!
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what are the 15 tracks tom...???
i bet epsom is one of them... |
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all ARC hibs:
Bath Brighton Chepstow Doncaster Ffos Las Fontwell Park Lingfield Park Newcastle Sedgefield Southwell Uttoxeter Windsor Wolverhampton Worcester Yarmouth |
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oh sorry tom...
so they are doing the GPS thingy at ARC tracks only...??? always found YARMOUTH impossible tbh... and WINDSOR is getting that way also imv... |
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appears so hibs, brighton my worst
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come to think of it most of that 15 are pretty bad for me right enough tom...
it'll be BOT v BOT before Betfair gets it's finger out and does something about it tho... shame that. |
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ATR provide stride length and sectional timing....after the race, which doesnt sound very helpful to me
Even if their transmissions showed data in 'real time' for customers it wouldnt be much good when the broadcast has the handbrake applied That just means somebody is using it themselves.....hmmmmmm |
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so they are doing the GPS thingy at ARC tracks only...???
Makes sense. ARC tracks are the easier ones for me versus the market using Betfair LV, and supposedly the pictures are slower than RUK tracks. So anyone able to program that live has a huge advantage. |
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and supposedly the pictures are slower than RUK tracks.
------------------------------------------------------- i think a few people would dispute that in all honesty... people who think RTV pics are 'super fast' need to wake up imv... |
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perhaps there is something in the above suggestion but
some of the worst automated tracks for running this flat season have been Beverley and Epsom amongst other RTV tracks so im not buying that it is 'the answer' |
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tips for in play betting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1IfPOOOe0s
how to beat the markets. good watch |
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good watch
----------- i'm really pleased i just wasted 11 minutes and 21 seconds of my life watching that... |
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A reduced delay is only bad for those who relied on it, surely it's good for everyone else?
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what are the 15 tracks tom...???
i bet epsom is one of them... ----------------------------------- tom... pretty sure i spotted 2 different groups of folk doing some sort of GPS thingy in the middle of the track at Epsom... one bloke on his own sat on a camping chair... and a couple of other laddies a few yards away... i've seen them before actually.... they are definitely not just there for some fresh air and to look at some nice horses on a sunday afternoon... so if they can do it at Epsom they can do it anywhere imv... always suspected strange things at Epsom and like i say i've seen these folk there before... you'll see them in the apprentice derby race... BLATANT. |
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in running liquidity was shocking yesterday...
and today it looks even worse after 3 races... things are grinding to a halt rapidly now imv... only a matter of time before the final curtain is drawn imv. |
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HH did you just write that post or was it one you brought up from ten years ago?
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