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By:
gerrygamer
When: 11 Sep 19 15:09
Appreciate you taking the time to reply - some interesting stuff.

@RacingLuck - yes, that would certainly get the blood pressure rising!
By:
longbridge
When: 12 Sep 19 12:05
GPS Racing data here:

http://www.totalperformancedata.com/
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 12 Sep 19 13:30

Sep 10, 2019 -- 4:13PM, greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy wrote:


(relates to event settlement date)     2019-06-09 23:00(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)    to 2019-09-10 16:13(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)      Cricket: -£20.28 | Football: £1.45 | Golf: £92.77 | Horse Racing: £37,253.17 | Mixed Martial Arts: £263.14  Total P&L:  £37,590.25 Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 3156 marketsMarket    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)Horse Racing / List 10th Sep : 2m4f Hcap Hrd    10-Sep-19 16:05    10-Sep-19 16:11    20.96Horse Racing / Catt 10th Sep : 6f Hcap    10-Sep-19 16:00    10-Sep-19 16:02    20.61Horse Racing / Leic 10th Sep : 1m4f Hcap    10-Sep-19 15:50    10-Sep-19 15:55    24.15Horse Racing / Worc 10th Sep : 2m7f Nov Hrd    10-Sep-19 15:40    10-Sep-19 15:48    2.68Horse Racing / List 10th Sep : 2m Hcap Hrd    10-Sep-19 15:35    10-Sep-19 15:39    27.40Horse Racing / Catt 10th Sep : 7f Hcap    10-Sep-19 15:30    10-Sep-19 15:35    4.66Horse Racing / Leic 10th Sep : 7f Sell Stks    10-Sep-19 15:20    10-Sep-19 15:22    10.00Horse Racing / Worc 10th Sep : 2m Hcap Hrd    10-Sep-19 15:10    10-Sep-19 15:21    176.63Horse Racing / List 10th Sep : 2m Hcap Hrd    10-Sep-19 15:05    10-Sep-19 15:10    8.54Horse Racing / Catt 10th Sep : 1m4f Hcap    10-Sep-19 15:00    10-Sep-19 15:04    22.18Horse Racing / Leic 10th Sep : 7f Nov Stks    10-Sep-19 14:50    10-Sep-19 14:53    40.58Horse Racing / List 10th Sep : 2m Mdn Hrd    10-Sep-19 14:35    10-Sep-19 14:39    8.58Horse Racing / Catt 10th Sep : 5f Hcap    10-Sep-19 14:30    10-Sep-19 14:36    20.14Horse Racing / Leic 10th Sep : 7f Nov Stks    10-Sep-19 14:20    10-Sep-19 14:23    7.47Horse Racing / Worc 10th Sep : 2m4f Nov Hcap Chs    10-Sep-19 14:10    10-Sep-19 14:18    15.46Horse Racing / List 10th Sep : 2m4f Mdn Hrd    10-Sep-19 14:05    10-Sep-19 14:11    3.55Horse Racing / Catt 10th Sep : 6f Nov Stks    10-Sep-19 13:55    10-Sep-19 14:00    42.92Horse Racing / Wolv 9th Sep : 6f Mdn Stks    09-Sep-19 18:00    09-Sep-19 18:04    15.20Horse Racing / Wolv 9th Sep : 6f Nursery    09-Sep-19 17:30    09-Sep-19 17:33    -0.09Horse Racing / List 9th Sep : 7f Mdn    09-Sep-19 17:25    09-Sep-19 17:28    11.61


stay away from the cricket, its killing your profits Laugh

By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 12 Sep 19 14:36
GPS surely not accurate enough; might be most of the time but it can easily go awry.

How does US racing produce it's simple graphic to represent the symbolic places of the horses? I've always presumed they're GPS but certainly occasionally one is just plain wrong.
By:
longbridge
When: 12 Sep 19 15:48
Darlo

GPS is accurate enough I think.  The absolute accuracy might be +/- 5 to 10m, but that's not hugely important - you don't much care exactly where Dobbin is on the face of the Earth, you care whether Dobbin is in front of behind Red Rum and by how far.  And most if not all of the contributors to the GPS error budget will be identical for a set of identical receivers in close physical proximity (and so using the same set of satellites), so relative displacements should be about right.

Ditto velocity figures should be right and relative velocities doubly so.

I had a look at the sample data set TPD published when they were first offering this (a flat race from Wolverhampton, as I recall) and it looked usable.
By:
jamesdean
When: 12 Sep 19 15:54
Can it tell how well Dobbin's jockey is going/trying?
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 12 Sep 19 15:55
ou don't much care exactly where Dobbin is on the face of the Earth, you care whether Dobbin is in front of behind Red Rum and by how far.  And most if not all of the contributors to the GPS error budget will be identical for a set of identical receivers in close physical proximity (and so using the same set of satellites), so relative displacements should be about right.


That's kind of my question about the US racing graphics. Occasionally, one is way off the back of the graphic nowhere near the rest of the accurate representation, or can oscillate about. My only theory is that they use GPS and the odd one is very inaccurate, rather than they all be wrong.

I have my own GPS watch and know how most of the time it is very accurate.

In theory, the idea will be excellent, but it's the odd one that goes wrong which can through a curve ball.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 12 Sep 19 16:01
*throw. Blush
By:
RacingLuck
When: 14 Sep 19 15:20
bot on 500% today Happy
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 14 Sep 19 15:26
1st 12 races £104..desperate.
By:
jamesdean
When: 14 Sep 19 15:28
too many meetings crammed in all going off same time, clashes etc
people don't have time to think never mind bet in every race
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Sep 19 15:28
So many meetings and now we have Musselburgh joining in at 3.30. Cry
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 14 Sep 19 15:45
Lay (Bet Against)    Backer's
odds    Backer's
stake   
Payout
Liability
Leo De Fury950.00£0.28 £266.00
Mount Everest390.28£3.19 £1,245.00
Kellys Dino849.44£4.63 £3,932.90
Blenheim Palace1,000.00£2.49 £2,490.00
Stivers996.09£0.46 £458.20
£11.05

Cry
By:
ProSniper
When: 14 Sep 19 15:59
How much were you wanting?
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 14 Sep 19 16:57
25-50
By:
ProSniper
When: 14 Sep 19 17:00
Laugh
By:
RacingLuck
When: 14 Sep 19 18:04
hardest day ive ever had 50 markets 160 quid Blush
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 14 Sep 19 18:06
without a doubt the hardest day ive ever played..the bot wont leave matched much late on..
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 14 Sep 19 18:09
Horse Racing: £724.88  Total P&L:  £724.88

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 51 of 51 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m4f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:55    14-Sep-19 18:04    24.15
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 5f Stks    14-Sep-19 17:45    14-Sep-19 17:54    10.41
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m INHF    14-Sep-19 17:40    14-Sep-19 17:44    25.17
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:30    14-Sep-19 17:34    10.19
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m Grp1    14-Sep-19 17:25    14-Sep-19 17:27    14.35
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:15    14-Sep-19 17:21    13.84
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 3m Hcap Chs    14-Sep-19 17:10    14-Sep-19 17:16    7.73
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 1m5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:05    14-Sep-19 17:09    1.03
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 1m2f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:00    14-Sep-19 17:04    39.87
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m3f Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 16:55    14-Sep-19 16:58    6.60
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m Grp2    14-Sep-19 16:50    14-Sep-19 16:54    0.88
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:45    14-Sep-19 16:48    1.70
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 2m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:40    14-Sep-19 16:45    6.27
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m1f Hcap Chs    14-Sep-19 16:35    14-Sep-19 16:40    11.75
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:30    14-Sep-19 16:34    17.59
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:25    14-Sep-19 16:32    6.43
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:20    14-Sep-19 16:21    20.70
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m2f Grp1    14-Sep-19 16:15    14-Sep-19 16:19    3.11
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m Nursery    14-Sep-19 16:10    14-Sep-19 16:14    5.12
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 5f Nursery    14-Sep-19 16:05    14-Sep-19 16:09    6.98
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m4f Nov Chs    14-Sep-19 16:00    14-Sep-19 16:05    30.38
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 1m Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 15:55    14-Sep-19 16:04    1.10
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:50    14-Sep-19 15:55    25.86
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:45    14-Sep-19 15:50    4.11
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m4f Grp3    14-Sep-19 15:40    14-Sep-19 15:45    10.67
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m6f Grp1    14-Sep-19 15:35    14-Sep-19 15:39    31.86
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:30    14-Sep-19 15:33    18.86
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m4f Hcap Hrd    14-Sep-19 15:25    14-Sep-19 15:31    39.15
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:20    14-Sep-19 15:26    14.28
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 5f Nursery    14-Sep-19 15:15    14-Sep-19 15:19    15.29
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 15:10    14-Sep-19 15:13    30.91
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m Grp2    14-Sep-19 15:05    14-Sep-19 15:09    15.14
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 7f Grp2    14-Sep-19 15:00    14-Sep-19 15:03    24.84
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m4f Hcap Hrd    14-Sep-19 14:55    14-Sep-19 15:00    7.26
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:45    14-Sep-19 14:50    25.31
Horse Racing / Specials : Keep The Race Leopardstown    25-Feb-19 18:50    14-Sep-19 14:47    49.48
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 1m6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:40    14-Sep-19 14:45    11.93
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m Nursery    14-Sep-19 14:35    14-Sep-19 14:36    28.63
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:30    14-Sep-19 14:35    1.75
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 7f Grp2    14-Sep-19 14:25    14-Sep-19 14:27    6.20
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m Nov Hrd    14-Sep-19 14:20    14-Sep-19 14:25    10.42
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 1m6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:15    14-Sep-19 14:24    17.67
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:10    14-Sep-19 14:12    0.54
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:00    14-Sep-19 14:05    5.52
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 7f Listed Stks    14-Sep-19 13:55    14-Sep-19 14:01    -5.48
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 13:50    14-Sep-19 13:55    23.18
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m Mdn Hrd    14-Sep-19 13:45    14-Sep-19 13:50    7.08
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 1m3f Stks    14-Sep-19 13:40    14-Sep-19 13:44    5.81
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 5f Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 13:35    14-Sep-19 13:37    9.52
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 6f Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 13:30    14-Sep-19 13:36    6.79
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 1m3f Hcap    14-Sep-19 13:10    14-Sep-19 13:17    16.95
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 14 Sep 19 18:26
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 18:15    14-Sep-19 18:22    124.69

gods good Cool
By:
ProSniper
When: 14 Sep 19 19:21
How did you manage that Shafty?
By:
jamesdean
When: 14 Sep 19 19:54
photo finish

£850 a day and complaining it's tuff, gotta laugh
By:
ProSniper
When: 14 Sep 19 20:06
It's tough when they have to make it up after suffering 1or2 losses. Better than most mundane jobs..but still a job.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 14 Sep 19 22:09
£850 risking 20k 50 times a day...

broke my record for matches under £10.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 15 Sep 19 13:17
that p&l doesn't look like you had it that hard Grin

are you actually risking 20k a click now?
By:
ProSniper
When: 15 Sep 19 13:24
Spread? Ave risk per click be around 3-5k surely?
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 15 Sep 19 13:31

Sep 14, 2019 -- 10:09PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:


£850 risking 20k 50 times a day...broke my record for matches under £10.


Imagine complaining you have to stick 20k up when you see things before everyone else LaughLaughLaugh

By:
ProSniper
When: 15 Sep 19 13:41
Indeed. "Why is there not more money willing to take my poor value" Mischief



But because they did actually have that for years and years..they struggle to accept the well being mucho drier than it used to be Sad
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 15 Sep 19 14:00
rl..i click my £8 @1000 sometimes 3-4 times on a horse...

post your p&l from yest..not that i doubt you but £160 from 50 markets seems incredible.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 15 Sep 19 14:02
Horse Racing: £163.86  Total P&L:  £163.86

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 50 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m4f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:55    14-Sep-19 18:04    9.80
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 18:00    14-Sep-19 18:03    0.00
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 5f Stks    14-Sep-19 17:45    14-Sep-19 17:54    1.65
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m INHF    14-Sep-19 17:40    14-Sep-19 17:44    4.52
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:30    14-Sep-19 17:34    9.81
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m Grp1    14-Sep-19 17:25    14-Sep-19 17:27    0.00
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:15    14-Sep-19 17:21    10.44
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 3m Hcap Chs    14-Sep-19 17:10    14-Sep-19 17:16    9.58
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 1m5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:05    14-Sep-19 17:09    4.95
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 1m2f Hcap    14-Sep-19 17:00    14-Sep-19 17:04    4.75
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m3f Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 16:55    14-Sep-19 16:58    0.00
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m Grp2    14-Sep-19 16:50    14-Sep-19 16:54    15.10
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:45    14-Sep-19 16:48    0.07
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:35    14-Sep-19 16:46    6.09
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m1f Hcap Chs    14-Sep-19 16:35    14-Sep-19 16:40    0.05
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:30    14-Sep-19 16:34    1.92
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:25    14-Sep-19 16:32    6.12
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m Hcap    14-Sep-19 16:20    14-Sep-19 16:21    0.00
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m2f Grp1    14-Sep-19 16:15    14-Sep-19 16:19    3.98
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m Nursery    14-Sep-19 16:10    14-Sep-19 16:14    11.95
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 5f Nursery    14-Sep-19 16:05    14-Sep-19 16:09    2.84
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:50    14-Sep-19 15:55    0.00
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:45    14-Sep-19 15:50    7.75
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:25    14-Sep-19 15:45    0.00
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m4f Grp3    14-Sep-19 15:40    14-Sep-19 15:45    4.01
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 1m6f Grp1    14-Sep-19 15:35    14-Sep-19 15:39    0.00
Horse Racing / Muss 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:30    14-Sep-19 15:33    0.00
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m4f Hcap Hrd    14-Sep-19 15:25    14-Sep-19 15:31    12.65
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 15:20    14-Sep-19 15:26    3.49
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 5f Nursery    14-Sep-19 15:15    14-Sep-19 15:19    0.01
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 15:10    14-Sep-19 15:13    0.00
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m Grp2    14-Sep-19 15:05    14-Sep-19 15:09    3.19
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 7f Grp2    14-Sep-19 15:00    14-Sep-19 15:03    8.82
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m4f Hcap Hrd    14-Sep-19 14:55    14-Sep-19 15:00    2.27
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 7f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:45    14-Sep-19 14:50    -25.00
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 1m6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:40    14-Sep-19 14:45    0.00
Horse Racing / Bath 14th Sep : 1m Nursery    14-Sep-19 14:35    14-Sep-19 14:36    1.70
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 1m5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:30    14-Sep-19 14:35    2.72
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 7f Grp2    14-Sep-19 14:25    14-Sep-19 14:27    8.82
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m Nov Hrd    14-Sep-19 14:20    14-Sep-19 14:25    3.70
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 1m6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:15    14-Sep-19 14:24    0.12
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 6f Hcap    14-Sep-19 14:10    14-Sep-19 14:12    0.71
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 1m4f Listed    14-Sep-19 14:05    14-Sep-19 14:08    8.82
Horse Racing / Leop 14th Sep : 7f Listed Stks    14-Sep-19 13:55    14-Sep-19 14:01    8.82
Horse Racing / Donc 14th Sep : 5f Hcap    14-Sep-19 13:50    14-Sep-19 13:55    0.33
Horse Racing / List 14th Sep : 2m Mdn Hrd    14-Sep-19 13:45    14-Sep-19 13:50    0.01
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 1m3f Stks    14-Sep-19 13:40    14-Sep-19 13:44    0.00
Horse Racing / ChelmC 14th Sep : 5f Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 13:35    14-Sep-19 13:37    0.00
Horse Racing / Chest 14th Sep : 6f Nov Stks    14-Sep-19 13:30    14-Sep-19 13:36    0.00
Horse Racing / Ling 14th Sep : 1m3f Hcap    14-Sep-19 13:10    14-Sep-19 13:17    7.30
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 15 Sep 19 14:11
i didnt think that was possible...mind boggling.
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Sep 19 14:12
especially having facetime
By:
RacingLuck
When: 15 Sep 19 14:17
it was the strangest day ever
By:
RacingLuck
When: 15 Sep 19 14:19
no ft just the Irish which i dont have first hand too expensive now
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Sep 19 14:26
no, I knew you only took the irish....but those 2 meets alone should have returned more than the whole day
By:
RacingLuck
When: 15 Sep 19 14:27
it used to not anymore Cry
By:
HappyHibby
When: 15 Sep 19 14:32
no ft just the Irish which i dont have first hand too expensive now

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how much is 'too expensive now'...???
By:
ProSniper
When: 15 Sep 19 14:33
What's 2nd hand like? Laugh
By:
RacingLuck
When: 15 Sep 19 14:35
@proSniper shocking Laugh was 60 a meeting now a tenner
By:
dustybin
When: 15 Sep 19 14:35
phookin ponzi scheme
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