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04 Nov 18
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Never heard of him, his nap is a 7-2 shot(e/w).....is this his first ride on the gravy train?
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no and he's one of the best they have on limited evidence.
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Exactly what I thought - 7/2 in one place only 1/5 odds.
Sounds like a talking formbook, loads of ratings and trainer stats which presumably are available to anyone. What I want from a pundit, particularly at this time of the year, is some idea of fitness. He hasn't mentioned that at all so he presumably hasn't got the confidence/knowledge to actually assess the horses condition. That is the only real point in having a pundit. |
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Pro punters should hold strong opinions, non on RUK with the possible exception of J. Neeson, have a view until the race is over.
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Nothing wrong with napping a 7/2 shot each way (even if many people can't get on). Don't know the guy but lets give him a chance. Neeson and Fremantle set the standard for me but there are a few others who are decent and worth listening to.
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he selected the winner...hard crowd on hear.
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So the people who rate him just because he picks a winner can't you make your own selections?
Nothing wrong with tipping a 7/2 shot but it hardly makes you stand out from the crowd. Just about anyone could put that up. It is hardly what you would call adventurous. |
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"sam england has every right to be pleased with himself there"
whoopsie kate & sandy part (ii)  |
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His nap has not won. It hasn't run yet.
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sam post op
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given the fair we are normally given this guy knows his onions.....Andy talks a lot of sense and as such unlikely to get too many gigs....
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Another smooth-talking spiv who has never met Sam England! I was starting to believe his confident patter.
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how can you take anybody seriously who doesn't know whether a trainer is a man or a woman?
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sam drake
been married to jonny (england) quite a long time now unforgiveable lack of knowledge |
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Any so called pro punter that quotes stats continuously is not a pro punter. HTHs.
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has he mentioned Enda Bolger yet?
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He managed to get the 'plug' for his website, membership costs are £335 until end of March
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victoria smith would have him totally bamboozled
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what would a pro punter say to losing punters on a tv channel loper ?
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I must admit, he has done the Pauline Nicholls stable tour, so not all bad.
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His nap just came 4th.
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He's now saying that the Skelton yard need to deceive the h'capper and get their beast dropped by 10lb for a spring campaign.
Should he be saying this openly on tv? |
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Pro punters don't actually spend the afternoon reading out stats on a tv channel, though, howard.
Well, at least not until the tank runs out. |
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He's another of those pro punters that uses Proform, no doubt he doesn't have to pay for it because it is splashed all over his web page, the one that so called pro punters have for income.
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Only 20 places to join his service so you better be quick!
Andy has agreed to give Bet Alchemist Members £50 off the full retail price The offer above is limited to 20 places on a first come first serve basis and we expect places to sell out fast, very fast! How much is it? This is a quality service from a professional punter and jump racing professional and I have negotiated a £50 discounted offer for you. It will suit best members that like to target the Cheltenham Festival for quite large Win bets but also might want to place several multiple bets at each way prices. Personally, I am a fan of each way super Heinz bets and will be combining my own work with Andy’s to place several multiple bets at the Cheltenham festival where the bookies offer the best value prices of the year. Wish I had not missed Cole Harden at 40/1 or even 33/1 earlier this year! The price reflects the quality of this service but does come less the £50 Bet Alchemist members discount for the 3 and a half months trail to the Cheltenham Festival is £275 Click Here to Secure Your Own Place on “The Cheltenham Trail” As mentioned above this offer is limited to 20 places only and will sell out fast so do purchase quick as this offer will not be available for much longer. Enjoy, |
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Who's Andy?
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Anyone paying any money for "tips" needs urgent medical attention
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yeah especially if they've had the end of it snipped off!
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Dept ford is correct.
If you can't make regular long term profits with your own selections - give this game up. Because you sure as hell won't by following so called professional tipsters. |
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The form book goes out the window for most races of class 3 and less, its the money that talks
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After the first race he didn't get that much right and even in that race he narrowed it down to two, one of which you needed a search party to find.
He seems to revolve around stats, more stats, a bit of inside information and shorties. Is that par for the course for a pro punter? To be fair he did provide a bit of amusement. Clearly his prepared party piece was to suggest half the field wouldn't exactly be trying in the day's best race when in fact the whole field were clearly quite happy to pick up first prize. Compounded things by still suggesting afterwards that the winning connections could easily be kicking themselves for the winning the race. Why not just admit you read the race completely wrong? On a different tack why were they in a booth? I know Howard has problems but the rest of them are surely fit enough to stand in the paddock? |
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Is this same guy who used to do the ATR Cheltenham preview??
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Does he and his clientele get on with the books?
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Doubt it denz.
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Unfortunately, Andy has antagonized most of the main trainers in Britain today. He has identified their need to pull horses to achieve a decent handicap mark, and in doing so has incurred their wrath for supporting RUK in future. He will disappear, to be replaced by the pathetic ginger bastard and equally useless idiots that "tip" on RUK. I admire your approach Andy, but everyone will now think that racing is bent, which is clearly not the case. Love Andrew Thornton.
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From his site. A glowing testimony from one of his disciples.
'No weekends homework is complete without first taking a good look at the work Andy Gibson sends me' Mick Fitzgerald |
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Has he got a results page where his tips are proofed?
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I wonder if Fitzgerald received a fee for that quote
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Probably puts Andrew's tips on his own thieving service.
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