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07 Sep 18
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That was seriously embarrassing from Moore. Only appalling riding could have got that beaten.
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Couldn't get his hands sorted out inside the final furlong.
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Didn't use his whip till 150 yards out then swaps hands twice in the last 100 yards.
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Took him an age to draw his whip in the first place...stronger jockey won the race.
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He is NOT the "best jockey" in the world and the sooner myopic commentators stop saying that and save themselves the embarrassment the better. Where is the empirical evidence that supports the claim?
He is simply a very good jockey. That is undeniable. |
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might have been (certainly top 3) a few years ago
but @ 34 (35 later in sept) he is firmly on the wrong side of the ageing curve for jockeys |
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he's ridden in lower grade races with a couldn't give a flying fck attitude for years
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Personally I’m not sure he’s even a good jockey anymore let alone any better than that....
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He's not the best in this country let alone the world.
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I wouldn’t even say he was in the top 5 in this country.
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Lee is just as bad.
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not even the best in his family
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wondersobright,
I agree with your view wholeheartedly. I have come to the conclusion for a while now, that given the price his mounts invariably go off at, it has become quite risky backing Moore's mount on midweek cards (if he is ever there) He seem to ride a significant number of races with abject disinterest. One gets the feeling he simply can't be asked to be there. |
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Outridden again by the stronger Joey Haynes
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And there we have it. If I hear one more time what a sensational jockey this guy is I will hit somebody.
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He's no K Fallon in a driving finish
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if you have a look at ryan's worldwide group1 s, say compared to SDS....
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These days I’d rather have SDS on board any day of the week.
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SDS is on a different planet to Moore.
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Poor mans JD Smith.
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ryan's below par this season i agree. could be anything. personal problems etc. But a quick lok at wiki will tell you ryan has won more g1s in france than sds has ridden anywhere, uk included combined.
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I still think he is one of the greatest.
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That's because nobody gives SDS any G1 rides. He would have won on all of Moore's and some of the ones he lost.
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it's a bit like football bilbo, if you're the best you get to play for barca and real madrid. You cant play for leicester and say yeah but if i was in barca's team i'd be top scorer :/
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I think Ben Curtis is one of the best.
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yes he seems pretty relaible
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curtis is v good
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its not all bad news if moore is considered the best or one of the best ,your probably at little if any disadvantage betting agaimnst him and in most cases getting a premium for doing so
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with jockeys, to judge their ability accurately you simply have to discount properly for the horses they are riding
otherwise its pointless imo jockey riding top horses does not mean top jockey imo, its more that the jockey has convinced enough important people that he/she is a top jockey |
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I'm not doubting that he used to be very good but the key words are 'used to be'.
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well oisin has got the tin man ride because he's riding superbly. They didnt go for sds ;)
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it's a bit like football bilbo, if you're the best you get to play for barca and real madrid. You cant play for leicester and say yeah but if i was in barca's team i'd be top scorer :/
Not sure you're comparing like with like there, Fear. take Seamus Heffernan for example, away from O'Brien, he's a low % journeyman jockey (imo), can often be spotted out the back of the telly, shuffling along, riding for the likes of Denis Hogan, but funnily enough, give him chances on them O'Brien bluebloods and suddenly he's a top jock, getting all the plaudits going. |
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you're writing him offon one season. for all we know he might be arguing with his missus everynight. still the best on his day imo. although i agree the everyday stuff is not for him.
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I backed Austrian school the other day and wasn't that happy to see moore replace mcdonmald, if you,d have backed a horse in the past and any of mercer,piggot,eddery,carson,frankie,fallon etc had come in for the ride you,d have been doing cartwheels down the street
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fair point george. Some owners and trainers prefer a lesser jock who's on the 'team'. same with gosden and havlin.
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I'll admit I backed him in the first two races at Ascot and I don't think I'm exaggerating to say he should (and another better jockey would) have won on both. No doubt Sextant will win and Lydia Hislop et al will be eulogising again.
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its more than 1 ssn imo
and besides when jockeys are the wrong side of 30 the axe comes pretty quick with me when I think they're past it |
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Spot on 1st Time - I see Moore and I despair.
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