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I remember white fivers very well in the 1950s but not a 5 shilling note. I suggest it was a postal order you received as a present ged.
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oh dear i was born and bred in peckham south london not milk and honey fed . but educated on what has to be done to have a comfy life . no one gets anything by being an angel.
the motto in our humble abode in peckham was no one should work for a limited group he should either work for himself or mankind.in this world you get leaders and followers so please no remarks regarding my status as a child |
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I've looked up british bank notes since records began and no five bob note...as sparrow says you're probably thinking of a postal order
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Hmm. I've found a Tanzanian one. I think I may have been conned!
http://www.banknotes.com/tz1.htm |
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ged i am now signing off because the conflab has gone off on a tangent
however i have at last sent email to george weaver on full info on rugantino at windsor i have my fingers crossed. lesson learnt never discard info that you may want to refer to in later years by for now |
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Hi boys - been away from the Forum all day.
RUGANTINO Whistler - Barrette (Dante) Ran 11 times as a two-year-old in 1964 Won twice - First win, on 7th outing, at Lingfield July 10th Birch Mead Selling Plate - 6f - Firm ridden by Jimmy Lindley - won easily by 4 lengths - at 2/1 second fav Owned by Jack Hylton - trained by A Smyth (East Henfred) - SOLD at Auction 1,150 gns to Mrs N Well Ran a further twice before the said Windsor Nursery Win - 8th in a Nursery at Wolverhampton, then 2nd, beaten 6 lengths, in the Hurstbourne Nursery at Salisbury, ridden by Tommy Carter - when 5/1 second fav - backed from 10/1 Wednesday September 23 Windsor 3:00 Englefield Green Nursery Handicap - 6f - Good 1. RUGANTINO - 7-2 - Des Cullen (improved 2f out, led 150 yds out, comfortably) 2. Indian Echo - 7-13 - Eph Smith (led till headed by winner) 3. Palmroy - 8-3 - Duncan Keith 4. Melos - 7-0 - R Abernethy*7 18 ran Dist: 2 lengths, half, 4 lengths Owner: Maurice Cohen Trained: J Sutcliffe, jun (Ashtead, Surrey) SP: 6/1 FAV, from 10/1 - 15/2, 100/8, 100/7 Tote: £2/12s2d - 16s, 11s, 18s4d Time: 1m13 3/5s (slow by 1 1/5s) Breeder: Messers E and Tim Holland-Martin |
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onlooker i have to go now but like ged you are magic
it canbe seen from you notes sp 6s backed down from 100/7 6s i came in at 100/8 where on earth did this info come from i have being searching on and off for ages thanks a whole let sir |
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Rugantino, if it helps at all I can provide a list of runners and riders for that 3.00 race at Windsor on 23/9/64, and their previous 3 finishing positions.
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I typed it out manually - having copied from the OFFICIAL FORM BOOK for 1964
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Can also provide SPs for ALL runners if that hasn't been done already.
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alun2005
how and what is the best way for you to provide that info at your disposal.however meagre it appears it will be framed that is how important that day is to me it shaped and altered my life for the better thereafter |
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RUGANTINO - I have hundreds of old copies of The Sporting Life - but, not from 1964.
If you go to the British Library .... Address: 96 Euston Rd, Kings Cross, London NW1 2DB Hours: Open today · 9:30am–8pm Phone: 0330 333 1144 They will/should have a copy of both the September 23rd and September 24th 1964 - Sporting Lifes - that they will probably let you view, albeit probably under supervision - and they MAY just Photo copy the relevant parts from the paper for you - although, obviously, that is far from a given. Worth a phone call, maybe. |
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onlooker where am i able to obtain the form book for 1964
bearing in mind my age i ask that you excuse me for saying this my memory recalls rugantino form placings in the sporting life that day showed a string of seconds.but if you are sure that is not the case i will cede to your spot on details as written |
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Rugantino,
The last time I provided data this way for someone was to email them the page (or part page) in digital format, and they printed it via their home printer. Don't swap email addresses yet (we can do that through BF's Personal Messaging system if necessary), let me first make sure I can get the data into shape. More later. |
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alun ok
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OK, quicker than I'd anticipated.
On my computer I have 2 PDF files saved. One relates to the Sports/racing page for 23 Sep '64 (showing Windsor and other cards) and the other relates to the Racing Results page for 23 Sep 64 (including Windsor). I did a test whereby I emailed one PDF from one of my email addresses to another, and it works fine. I even virus-checked it and it was good. The resultant text is quite small to say the least, but modern computers do at least allow you to enlarge stuff before printing it. I can send you my email address through the BF Personal Messaging system if you like and you can reply to it saying where you want the email files sent. That's about the best I can offer I think, short of typing it all out. |
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RUGANTINO - I am ALWAYS, "sure,"
![]() Sometimes they are available on ebay - or Amazon - or specialist booksellers site. Rather fortuitously there IS on for sale on ebay, right now - for just a Fiver. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Form-Book-Sporting-Chronical-Flat-Racing-Annual-Part-1964-Issue-1965-Horse-/272604711308?ha****m3f7881c98c:g:QI8AAOSwDKtY1qp~ |
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Rugantino - just messaged you though the BF Personal Messaging system.
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A great story Rugantino, in fact the whole thread is a good read thanks to our resident 'gurus. It makes a change from some of the ego massaging dross we see on a daily basis. Thanks guys
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Very good Ged, Alun2005 and Onlooker Real life at last.....
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alun2005
please excuse my ignorance but what is bf per mess system |
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If you look towards the top of this page you will see the words 'NEW MESSAGES' , hopefully showing (1) New Message for you to read. It's a means for BF customers to contact each other privately.
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He might need to be on the "New Community" part of the forum. I'm on "Classic" and it does not show the messages.
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Rugantino
It is - Betfair PM = Personal Message - that ONLY YOU can read, and not the whole Forum. Firstly - You need to be viewing the Forum in 'New Community' view - and not 'Community Classic. Towards the top-right - but BELOW you 'Total Available' Balance - you will see a line containing ... 'New Messages' and 'Contacts'. In the (brackets) following 'New Messages' you should now be seeing a number 1 = (1) Click on 'New Messages' and then click on the Message from alun, to open it. |
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Rugantino - I can see you've got my Personal Message and you tried replying to it, but maybe you didn't include any text?
Have another go. |
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Have another go.
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OK, we're in business. Emails shortly.
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Both emails sent. Let us know how you get on.
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Excellent work and good read.
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A great story Rugantino, in fact the whole thread is a good read thanks to our resident 'gurus. It makes a change from some of the ego massaging dross we see on a daily basis. Thanks guys Grin
well said ANDREW, pleasant surprise from a lot of the input on here. ![]() |
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It's all gone a bit quiet Chez Rugantino…… have you received or even found the emails?
The drama's getting a bit much. |
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... if hes anything like me with computers please be PATIENT.
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I've had the word from the Great Man……… GOOD NEWS !!
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This 1964 gamble on Rugantino is surely destined to go down in history and collective alongside DESTRIERO/THE ILLIAD, REVEILLEZ/KADOUN and PASTERNAK.
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have received both emails card 23rd results 24th instant 1964.magnified both and downloaded daughter will print on the weekend easy to read after magnification.will frame and hang .i cannot thank you and all on this forum enough . a little more faith is restored in the public at large.be lucky all and enjoy your racing
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Well done guys;great you've been able to sort him out. I too am astounded at how some obscure questions get answered.
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Excellent thread, well done to all.
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This must be the oldest aftertimers thread ever!
Claiming a winner 53 years later ![]() Must have taken a fair set of cahooners to put that bet on though. |
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a most enjoyable read, well done to rugantino and all those who helped him out.
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"Rugantino" was an Italian musical comedy that played in New York on Broadway in 1964. Jack Hylton was one of the producers, so he presumably named his horse to get a bit of extra publicity for the production.
Didn't have a chance to do it any good though, as the show was a flop, and was pulled after 28 performances early in 1964. Here's an image of page 2 of the playbill for its opening night, Feb 6, 1964, with Jack's name on it... https://picclick.ca/Rugantino-FLOP-Playbill-1964-OPENING-NIGHT-Nino-371900222236.html#&gid=1&pid=2 |