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KEMPTON PARK TO SHUT FROM 2021
KEMPTON PARK TO SHUT FROM 2021
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No Pitman's Derby on turf , no King George at Kempton .................
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Surrey still has plenty of racecourses and racedays without Kempton so I can understand it from that point of view, and racecourses do take up an obscene amount of space, but it's a huge shame to lose the King George. It's not the King George if it's run around Sandown, ground too soft and track too testing. If they could move the race to Ascot I think it would go close to replicating Kempton and I would view this move a lot more positively. There's also the possibility of a monster crowd.
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Probably plenty of monsters - totally pi$$ed ones
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when they scrapped the turf racing at this place it was the start of the decline
the history of the races on the jubilee course, straight course etc all gone and now this  there are some complete and utter kn0b ends in decision making roles  |
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For all those liberal socialist who thought it would be marvelous to have open border and become a multiculturalism society. If you encourage 5 million people to come to this country eventually they all have to be housed somewhere the pressure to build more houses in the south east is immense and land is now worth an absolute fortune.The same pressure applies to the NHS the Education system and the transport network. It's not rocket science it's simple maths.The Briton that us old arses knew has now gone.
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Thought this thread was a wind-up !
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The people in charge seem to have no idea of what makes racing appealing. The variety of tracks and tradition are two of the most important factors. Kempton jumps is also excellent for the horses. Better ground than most courses in mid winter. Another nail in racing's coffin, appropriately on the same day that the racing post gave over the front page and a double page spread to Fred Done, one of the absolute weasels running racing into the ground.
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Horses going up in trip on flat 3m was the sort of thing that attracted me to punting in the first place. It adds intrigue and angles. This is as sad as the 4 day festival imho.
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Use to like Kempton before AW put down. Now couldn't give a toss about the place. Developing Sandown further is a great idea. Truly a magnificent course.
Shame they will put down an AW at Newmarket, so that's the downside of it all. |
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Probably run the Guineas on the AW track at Newmarket next. It will happen eventually - they'll come up with some logic/excuse.
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Probably run the Guineas on the AW track at Newmarket next. It will happen eventually - they'll come up with some logic/excuse.
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there is a place for the a/w but it has gone beyond an acceptable % of the fixture list imo
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The problem with a/w racing is it will never capture the interest of the British public the way turf racing does. It just won't.
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All weather at Newmarket ! , they don't anyone having a piece of the cake do they
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the links (new aw track) is across the road from the rowley and july courses so out of view
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It's mid-winter. The height of the NH season, apparently. Today, ONE jumps meeting, TWO a/w dross. Yesterday the same. Losing another NH track is only going to damage the discipline further. Kempton was the only a/w I ever bet on; not a chance I'm touching anything else. Horrid decision.
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As a matter of principle should the Jockey Club consider putting in place a compensation scheme for disenfranchised bookmakers ? I am not just talking Kempton here. Some layers might, in all good faith, have made recent purchases at significant cost of pitches that have been devalued at a stroke. If the JC were in the event to recognise this moral obligation it would if nothing else represent damage limitation to its reputation !
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nothing lasts forever..
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A good decision. Kempton offers absolutely nothing outside of the Christmas meeting and only encourages rubbish racing the rest of the year. It can't even aspire to mediocre: it's that bad.
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They aren't replacing it with a brand new turf track handy for London that's the problem.
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Johnny, do you not think the all weather racing at Newmarket will be a broadly similar standard to the all weather racing at Kempton, then?
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As greyhound racing is dying on it's feet , it appears that horse racing is taking it's place.
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No I don't BB. There's a much bigger and better horse population in Newmarket and I believe the standard will be far higher. What do you think?
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I don't know tbh. The maidens at Kempton tend to be a reasonble standard, probably better than any other all weather track. The field sizes hold up pretty well for all the quality of the handicaps is often not great. There are only a certain number of good horses to go round anyway and I can't really see a strong reason why this move will improve overall quality of racing.
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Kempton the first of many, Warwick next imo...
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Greed, pure and simple is the reason although I won't bemoan Kempton's closure. Used to be my favourite track years ago.
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Warwick in itself wouldn't be a massive loss but it is a symptom of the financial mess racing is in which is much more concerning.
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Kempton jumps meetings are pretty decent all season imo. Lots of good novice races. Better ground than most tracks. A terrible decision. A/W racing just isn't of much interest to the public
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* racing just isn't of much interest to the public, hence...
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Us Londoners don't need Kempton when we have Sandown.
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from a bookmaker's point of view this decision once again proves that investment in any racecourse is and always will be speculative and short to medium term only.
catterick are now rumoured to be re-locating the rail with no discussion with any of the rails bookmakers [flat or n/h] unfortunately the bookmakers nowadays have only one choice ~ take it or leave it !!! |
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Kempton was an ideal location for London and Surrey race goers as were Hurst Park and Ally Pally in their day. Newmarket AW will only really attract local racing people and will take runners from Chelmsford.
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The BHA alrewady have plans drawn for the replacement AW course at Newmarket. It will be a two mile straight course and will be the only known AW course starting and finishing in two different counties giving pundits something to drivel over repeatadly. Due to planning restrictions the stands will be at the start but they have assured us this wont detract from the pleasure
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Jm
I and many others choose nh membership at kempton rather than sandown . |
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The old cry when they wanted to build on Aintree was "Houses not Horses". My updated version would be hysterectomies not houses!
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Racing fans should be very worried about this development because in my opinion this will open the floodgates to other racecourses being sold off. What do you expect though when you have the sort of immigration levels that the UK is currently experiencing. Soon the UK will be just one giant soulless housing estate.
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^ where you won't even be able to take the dog for a walk!
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The problem with Racing is it does not own its own purse strings. Betting is the main source of funding but it chose not to pursue the ownership of this source both in 1961 and when exchanges arrived in 2000. this is what happens when a bunch of under achieving public school boys are allowed to run a major industry like Racing.
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There was a rash of racecourse closures in the 60s and early 70s. I believe a number of them became hoosing estates. There was some immigration at the time but there was also full employment as well as a lot of British people going to Australia,Canada etc. Racecourses in urban areas have always been under threat. If you go back far enough there were 3 in Sheffield ( not at the same time ) but they are now all built on.
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some already extremely rich people are going to make a lot of money on the back of this
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