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God, how I hate political correctness with a passion !
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we nae pay the poll tax hal
![]() ![]() ![]() wow just shows you how "they" are watching us mate when we see the adverts ![]() ![]() ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsr9HCOgQe0 any excuse to play it but its true bluuuuuuueeeeeee |
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#just for therecordspent£800onanewone
laptop that is and Argos were all over me (disclaimer -other stuff bought as well ![]() ) |
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No action was taken against Mick Easterby that time when he was interviewed on t/v and he said about someone, you've made a cu*t of me once you'll not do it again.
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Ward fined £1,200 for 'offensive' comment
By jon lees 4:16PM 17 NOV 2016 MIDDLEHAM trainer Jason Ward escaped with a fine on Thursday for his use of a racial stereotype in a TV interview he gave after saddling a winner at Wolverhampton earlier this month. Ward was fined £1,200 by a BHA disciplinary panel who found he had brought the sport into disrepute by referencing an "offensive and inappropriate racial connotation" in a comment which was broadcast on At The Races after Monte Cinq's success in a maiden. The BHA asserted that Ward's outburst led to adverse publicity, including in its reporting on social media, by the BBC and the Racing Post. It was considered serious enough by the trainer that he immediately apologised to ATR, the Racing Post and his website. Ward's barrister Roderick Moore said the trainer had been "momentarily unguarded and showed a serious lack of judgement". He accepted that his remarks were "lewd and unprofessional" and there was no intention to cause offence. A statement on Ward's behalf said: "Jason is pleased that the fine is well below the entry point of £2,000, and also below the level of fines handed down in other recent high-profile cases of a breach of this rule. "While the Panel will doubtless choose their words carefully, we infer that the reality is that they accepted Jason's case that this unfortunate utterance was the consequence of a momentary lapse of judgement, that he quickly apologised to all and sundry afterwards, that it was not racist in either a legal or any meaningful sense and that it was unlikely to have caused offence to anyone with a sense of humour. " |
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A lot of pathetic, uncultivated idiots on here. Frightening. Ward's comment was a completely gratuitous racial stereotype. Today is the first I've heard of it, and I came on here after reading the RP report as I thought this was the best place to find out what was said. I was shocked and disgusted when I saw it. I totally sympathise with those sad individuals amongst you who want to make jokes or laugh at jokes like that in your own homes, but I don't want to listen to that sort of inexcusable ignorance on my tv and I am relieved that is was deemed worthy of punishment. This is not PC gone crazy, it's a rational, fair minded intolerance of crass, moronic insensitivity. I am amazed some of you have managed to acquire the skills to use a computer. Well done. Benny Hill!!?? Whatever.
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I love it when the 'holier than thou' brigade show it
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I just thought there had to be a retort to all the apologists for ignorance on here. Let's all say whatever we want and not care who might be offended by it? Great basis for a civilised society, that. Surprised you haven't mentioned Jeremy Clarkson and the Duke of Edinburgh as the last bastions of all things decent.
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I haven't mentioned anything, but I wasn't offended by what he said, though it's not something I would ever say myself.
If you're offended by it, that's fair enough, but don't think you can tell me what I should be thinking or saying. |
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Ah, England in the 70s. Bless This House, Benny Hill, bananas being thrown from the terraces ... why did we have to let those PC people ruin it all, eh?
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So apparently Ward has been given a fine well below the entry level by the BHA, and seemingly hasn't broken any laws, so it would be hard to describe his 'punishment' as anything other than a token one by an authority who wants to be seen to be doing the 'right thing', and that's fair enough.
So just because I don't share the same view of what was said by Ward as Howellsy does, let's take a look at what he has said about me and others: "A lot of pathetic, uncultivated idiots on here...I am amazed some of you have managed to acquire the skills to use a computer" Charming... |
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Howellsey is the offensive one, only he doesn't realise it as he's so wrapped up in his self-righteousness
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The personal insults were pointless and I apologise for them. I was just so shocked by the majority being seemingly unfazed by all this. I live in a world where just about everyone I know personally would have rightly lost their jobs if making that comment while going about their professional duties. Can you name any high profile job within sport where the price for such a comment would have been less than an instant sacking?
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How do you sack a self-employed person? You may argue that the BHA should have given him a tougher punishment, but he argued what he said wasn't racist, nor was it intended to be, and he has apologised for what he said.
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You take their licence away so they can't bring the sport into disrepute again, but, going by what his lawyers said, that wouldn't have been an option. Shame.
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What was wrong with Bless this house?Think you may be getting confused with Love Thy Neighbour.
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You're right Rory - just checked it out. Cheers for putting me right on that.
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Someone having their livelihood taken away for saying something off the cuff that may not be to everyone's taste? I would say that's a going a bit too far. I would even question whether a fine is appropriate when a warning would have sufficed (imo).
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I was shocked and disgusted when I saw it. Were you really, if I was a black man I would be laughing. What exactly is offensive about it? Of course he shouldn't have said it, but I honestly don't see who it actually offended or how.
Ah, England in the 70s. Bless This House, Benny Hill, bananas being thrown from the terraces - his remark is exactly the same comparison as this.... Can you name any high profile job within sport where the price for such a comment would have been less than an instant sacking? Plenty of footballers for starters. Proven for what would be classed as proper racial slurring etc. You seem to be the type of person who goes on youtube to find a video of Bernard Manning just to watch it so you can be "disgusted" by it and make comments and slate anyone who dares to have a laugh at any of it. What will you do if the hattrick pops up with Le Pen getting in? |
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In my opinion, there's not really that much of a gap between the private parts comment and making monkey noises from the terraces which black footballers had to endure just a few decades ago, and which lots of people presumably deemed amusing. It's a sliding scale. You might as well defend the monkey chants on the basis that a lot of people like monkeys so what exactly is the problem? Instead of me having to explain why it is offensive, why can't someone explain to me what is amusing about stereotyping black men by penis size and why is it acceptable to perpetuate this stereotype?
"If I was a black man" ... how generous of you to make such a small imaginative leap "footballers for starters" ... yep, gotta give you that one. Strengthens my argument doesn't it? "Le Pen" - what made you think of Le Pen by reading this thread then? |
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In my opinion, there's not really that much of a gap between the private parts comment and making monkey noises from the terraces which black footballers had to endure just a few decades ago - If that is what you (or anyone) actually think I am astounded. In my opinion if you asked a black man if making monkey noises at him was on the same level as saying he was stereotyped as having a massive penis, I would be pretty sure he would be looking at you startled. How you even think that is comparable is ridiculous (imo).
I would honestly be amazed if any black men were offended by his comments at all. "footballers for starters" ... yep, gotta give you that one. Strengthens my argument doesn't it? - No it is the complete opposite of your argument, you asked someone to name any high profile job in sport where someone wouldn't have got an instant sacking, Luis Suarez never along with many high profile footballers/sportsmen. "Le Pen" - what made you think of Le Pen by reading this thread then? - you did, because you sound like a typical left wing do gooder, and seem to think everyone has to be offended by any comment that is deemed controversial. I still do not see what point of his comment was offensive. |
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It was a very stupid thing to say but are they all going to have to pass a pc test when applying for a trainers license? The habit of interviewing every owner, trainer and jockey before and after each race is bound to lead to this sort of thing occasionally.
Many years ago I was on a training day for spokespersons for the NFU and it was made very clear to me that if asked for an interview on behalf of the Union, I had to toe the party line and on no account say what I really thought. Perhaps all trainers should be made to do the same. |
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I'm still trying to work out how the BHA can summon up the nerve to accuse somebody else of 'bringing racing into disrepute'.
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post race interview to follow ..
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i never thought it was a racist comment.
So i asked a black friend if he thought it was. He laughed and said "no, because you know its true bro" and just laughed giving me a fist bump. We have to be careful with this racism and calling everything up, as people get fed up with it and we have to tackle the true racism that we see such as the monkey chants, bannana throwing etc which is dispicable and needs to be clamped down on hard. Putting trivial comments in the same bracket is crazy and doesnt help trying to stamp out real racism. |