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Howay lads it's effing obvious what he's done
I'm grateful as this is a good thread and hadn't read the original article |
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you just answered your own question
the one sentence of mine after the article I would bet 1.01 there isnt another person on the planet who would think I am trying to pass this article off as my own, i literally cant fathom the process in your head that would lead you to even consider that possibility, it just wouldnt even enter my head when I see an article posted on here, I dont recall anyone on here ever having to put a disclaimer saying they didnt write the article and I never once thought it was them who wrote it, you can clearly see the difference between a forum post and an article from a news site |
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they tend to be followed by a short comment at the bottom by the op, eluding to why the article was worth posting in their opinion
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obvious to anyone who can read a computer screen that it was copied and pasted
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It's just me then. Everyone knows it's a cut and paste job from 7 years ago
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Forgot to add, is the bold in the original article or is it yours? On my screen, the font of your rider is exactly the same as the rest of the post.
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I think it's quite naive to suggest that purely because a horse tests clean after a race that it hasn't benefited from any previous use of drugs.
If a boxer were to go up in weight but had trouble putting on that weight and so used drugs to help bulk up and/or aid in faster recovery from his workouts, if he then gets to a heavier weight and has had a good training camp partly due to the use of drugs so then comes off of them in the lead up time to his fight, testing clean after it doesn't mean he still hasn't benefited from any use of illegal drugs. By the same token, if a horse has been administered certain drugs that help it muscle up and/or increase the intensity of its training routine and then is weaned off them in the run up to its race, it could still well retain some of the conditioning, as well as having benefited via reaching a level of fitness that it might not have achieved without the use of any drugs. |
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It is a disgrace.
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From a drug administration point of view then having horses train in the US and Bulk up, is that the term then run them in the UK by which time the bulking up additives are undetectable. It's not rocket science and Ward is onto a good thing, sell on the horses who by the time they are 4year old are useless. Who buys them I feel sorry or as they won't train on only go backwards. simples.
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Name one of these horses that are useless by the time they are 4 years old.
And you're feeling sorry for the likes of Godolphin, Coolmore and Stonestreet Farms. |
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I expect everyone will be backing every horse he now sends over here now we know that they are all on drugs.
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A horse with a drug problem ridden by a jockey with a drug problem. Quite a combination.
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ffs people are very begrudging.wasnt it great to see the fastest 2 yr old sprinter we ever seen yesterday..and well done also to frankie..hes not breaking any rules as they are set out and as such fair play to him.
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Just stating the facts
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and hes playing to the rules.if he wasnt the horse and him would be banned .simple.the way of the world
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May be your world, not mine.
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if it was a british trainer who had the filly would there be a question? i say no. do u think that the game is clean over here?the bigger nh and flat trainers in gb and ireland dont use whatever is available to them legally to achieve the best possible for their horses?!?
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OK then, lets all use drugs. Athletes, horses, everyone. That sounds ok does it?
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well im sure you heard of ben johnson? and russia? and darlings of denial linford and carl?..if a trainers/athlete rival is using undetectable stuff then the temptation is to use. as long as the authoritys arnt serious about detection it will continue. maria sharapova was caught using stuff that she was on for 10 years.she got a derisory 2 years from the time she was detected.most of her sponsors stayed with her..shes still one of the most pictured athletes in the world.the money is still rolling in..shes on billboards all over the world...as you say That sounds ok does it?
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+15 from 22 runs.
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Linford is the most obvious drug user of all time and I'd bet if his tests throughout his career (which they'll still have) were taken out of the fridge and tested now he'd be positive for allsorts
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It was Michelle Smith for me who ruined the olympics and don't bother watching it now. What the should do is just have the lanes sponsored by the various drug companies i.e lane number 1 EPO num 2 Clenbeuterol etc same for horses
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she made Frankel look like a handicapper....
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Drugs are a massive issue and we should be doing whatever we can to discourage it. Channel 4 and others fawning all over previous drug cheats is not the way forward. But then they do the same with jockeys such as Lynch so it's no surprise.
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I agree with Facts for the first time. The performance was stunning and we should be glad that we witnessed it. I would hope that there was no skullduggery and I'm pretty sure that everything was on the level.
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kevin blake spoke at length about this issue today on sunday forum.......it sounds complicated.
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It might be worth looking at Australian horses here, they have changed the system so use of steroids when not racing is also banned and pre racing.
There results at Royal Ascot are now not as good as say 10 years ago. A coincidence or are the two related? |
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Fatlad 1981 • June 16, 2016 11:16 AM BST
Linford is the most obvious drug user of all time and I'd bet if his tests throughout his career (which they'll still have) were taken out of the fridge and tested now he'd be positive for allsorts ffs a bit harsh  I know liquorice is a laxitive - but surely this would be a disadvantage if you shat your pants during the 100m |
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Drugs are rife in American racing but even without that, their horses tend to be more precocious than ours (which explains a lot of the Coolmore success in Vincent's days, but I digress).
To that point, we should look at Scat Daddy who sired not only Lady Aurelia but also Caravaggio. I'd not want too short a price on Caravaggio training on. |
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Coolmore are clearly excited by the Scat Daddy bloodline and so they should be. No Nay Never (stands at Coolmore) first 5 sires are all Gr.1 winning 2yo’s: Scat Daddy, Johannesburg, Hennessy, Storm Cat & Storm Bird. Plenty have trained on.
I saw a recording of the kevin blake piece the gist of which was English trainers (who stretch the rules every bit as much as their foreign counterparts) maybe could learn something from how Americans develop their 2yos [which applies equally to Australians and their sprinters]. |
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