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Which way are you voting xmoneyx, if you do not mind me asking.
For the record I am Out of here. |
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I did postal vote ---yes
only cause I hate Boris but as campaign has gone on I understand why many want out |
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I voted IN
what's your main reason bar for voting out? |
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Surprised Leave isn't favourite now,,,
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The EU is not democratic.
In the UK if we do not like a Governing Party we can vote them out. We cannot do this in the EU, even if all our members voted for or against something we could not change anything as we are too few to matter. That is why, we are controlled by an Autocracy and there is nothing we can do about it except leave, |
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The EU is not democratic.
I really wish people would educate themselves about this. It's sort of too important a thing to be ignorant of the facts. |
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One of David Cameron's biggest donors has withdrawn his financial support for the Conservatives and is considering quitting the party over the way the Prime Minister has handled the referendum, the Telegraph can reveal.
Edi Truell, a pensions expert who has donated over £270,000 since 2010, said he will only hand over money if Boris Johnson or Michael Gove take over from Mr Cameron after a Brexit vote. It came as Priti Patel, a Government minister, accused Mr Cameron of "undermining" the Conservative manifesto by warning that the triple lock on pensions could be at risk if the UK votes to leave. She said: "I simply think this is just an unrealistic statement, another intervention that is quite frankly there to terrify pensioners in a quite demeaning way." Mr Truell, a leave supporter, said the Prime Minister's warning about the damage a leave vote could do to pensions was the final straw in a pattern of "unfair" and "irresponsible" claims. Speaking to The Telegraph Mr Truell said he has already written to party chairman Lord Feldman to explain that he will no longer donate to Mr Cameron and warned "the machinery of Government is being abused" by the remain campaign. Mr Truell, who has frequently given advice to Mr Cameron and was trustee of the Conservative party pension fund, is a member of the exclusive leader's group open to those who donate over £50,000. He said he is "staggered" by claims made by Mr Cameron and George Osborne about the financial risks of a Brexit, adding the numbers are "fantasy". He added: "I think Boris, Michael Gove and team have done a sterling job, a brave job, and I would be only too pleased to support them and, in my view, the genuine Conservative party in the future. "I'm not prepared to support the current regime given the way they have been going about things." He added that he may not renew his party membership and claimed other big Tory donors are also reconsidering their financial backing. Mr Truell warned that remaining in the EU would be more damaging to pension funds because of legislation planned by Brussels. "The much greater risk is remaining within the EU, they've got explicit plans to destroy British pensions," he warned, adding: "All the final salary funds will go bankrupt and their companies will go bankrupt supporting them, that's about 8,000 pension funds in the private sector." Mr Truell said that similar legislation imposed on insurance companies had cost the industry over £3billion. |
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put Eddie Izzard on QT Thursday again--LEAVE are home& dried
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Look brigust I don't want to keep getting at you but what exactly do you think that proves?
Edi Truell is an adviser to Boris Johnson (carefully glossed over by that article of course) so of course he's only too pleased to support him. Besides which haven't you heard, nobody listens to experts anymore. It's actually hilarious how the Brexit mob dismiss every single opinion and warning about the risks of Brexit and yet leap gleefully on the odd person who supports it. It's actually bizarre behaviour. Though if the country doesn't wake up and come to it's senses over the next week it looks like you might just see the fall out heading your way pretty soon. |
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Oh and as I've been employed in insurance during my time I presume the insurance legislation he refers to is Solvency 2, something which actually requires insurers to have sufficient capital to cover their risks however bad their losses are.
Of course spending money to provide greater protection to the consumer has never really been in these people's interests has it? |
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the SUN and rubert murdock want us to leave
well that say it all IM VOTING STAY IN |
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Forget any money issues. The safety of our future generations is more important? OUT..
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Immigration is the only issue for me the rest is about the wealthy trying to protect their investments
Definitely out |
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Police officer and his wife murdered at their home in Paris by i s fighter him outside her inside
This ties in with immigration and control of borders  |
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OUT.........Cameron has promised a lot but didn't deliver anything. Migration will rocket and Europe will expect us to join the Euro. Greece are skint, Spain is struggling and many more will follow and who will pay for it...us.
When you here that France and Germany are looking at a referendum, things dont look that good in Europe. |
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Out - but i'm not allowed to vote anyway
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IN. the future must not be a backwards step
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Workers rights would also be at risk.
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Marcce
Marcce 13 Jun 16 23:49 Joined: 03 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 3,972 | Blogger: Marcce's blog The EU is not democratic. I really wish people would educate themselves about this. It's sort of too important a thing to be ignorant of the facts. Correct, and they've obviously never heard of the House of Lords if denocracy concerns them. |
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Yes, we wouldn't want to take a backwards step now would we! Let's allow in more people that despise our way of life, are homophobic and treat women as second class citizens, and don't mind the odd medieval beheading.
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For me, it is simply a matter of democracy - I do not want decisions made in Brussels.
I also find it interesting that our Prime Minister prefers others to make decisions regarding out future rather than his Government - why? |
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drifted from 1.58 to 1.71 overnight
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Immigration is the only issue for me the rest is about the wealthy trying to protect their investments
Definitely out People had better wake up. If the vote is to leave it's going to be quite funny if free movement is retained to try and make sure the country doesn't go over the cliff the outers are sending it towards. If free movement isn't retained, it's probably going to be even funnier when migrants from EU countries are replaced by migrants from ex Commonwealth countries. I'm not sure the borderline xenophobes would quite be able to deal with that. |
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"replaced"-why would that be,surely the crux of the immigration issue is to stop it.
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if your community hasnt been overrun by foreign nationals already it is only a matter of time before it is.and then it will be too late.
builders recognised the problem 8 years ago,its only now middle england suffers that the greater public realisation is upon us. |
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OUT OUT FOOKIN OUT!
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fookin right kemo
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all this talk about EU migrants "propping up" our NHS. when in reality, migrants account for around 5% of the NHS workforce. it really is false economy because I wonder what proportion of patients using the NHS are foreign born
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london OVERRUN with economic migrants,"assylum migrants" getting dumped on poorer northern communities and now average working class areas suffering a noticeable demographic change-are you surprised people have had enough?
or maybe we should just carry on until were only an annexe of eastern europe |
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Have you sen the way they treat our songs in eurovision. I get the feeling europe don't like us for that reason im out.
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Difficult decision for me until I look at those that want me to vote out- the right wing political parties, Donald Trump, Putin and Newspaper moguls.
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The ignorance on here is beyond belief. Marcce and Alias appear to be applying some logic and intelligence. Some of the other posts are truly ridiculous. KeMoH and Polar clearly have no understanding of the EU which sadly may apply to the majority of people in this country. A simple maths equation shows that our economy is boosted by a massive amount more than we give to the EU in fees. We are going to be much worse off if we leave. Nearly every independent economist agrees on this. The EU is also much more democratic than our own system. as mentioned before we have the House of Lords which it totally unelected together with a first past the post system which is not as democratic as the proportional representation of the European Parliament. The Council has 28 members which are appointed by each countries Prime Minister.
Of course very few people will listen to the arguments as their prejudiced views get in the way. Leaving the EU is quite obviously a backward step both for the economy and for society. Oh and fatlad1981 a French police officer and his wife being killed by a French man is a tragic event but absolutely nothing to do with the EU |
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"replaced"-why would that be,surely the crux of the immigration issue is to stop it.
Because the UK has an aging population. You cannot change that demographic. By 2030 25% of the population is likely to be 65 plus. Governments have to do something to plug the fall in tax receipts because taxes pay for things. Therefore, immigration is here to stay. Farage almost admitted that in the interview with Andrew Neil the other night. If you need proof of it, non EU migration, that which can be controlled, is higher than EU migration. The other factor involved is that EU migrants are often younger and don't necessarily have families in tow as a result. In 2014, 90,000 people migrated to the UK to be with someone. Nearly 65% of those were non EU migrants. |
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Marccce, lets be poor with pensioners working and give sharia law a miss.
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The ignorance is what's scary Asparagus. Things like "non democratic", "take back control", and the most laughable of all "freedom" seem to be spreading like a cancer.
This is the most important decision this country has had to make in decades. It is inexcusable for so many people to make that decision whilst ignorant of the facts. |
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Sir James Dyson has come out in favour of leaving the European Union.
The inventor, best known for his bagless vacuum cleaner, told the Telegraph that he did not believe that the UK trade would be adversely affected by Brexit. He said: “When the Remain campaign tells us no one will trade with us if we leave the EU, sorry, it’s absolute cobblers. “Our trade imbalance with Europe is running at nine billion a month and rising. If this trend continues, that is £100bn a year.” Dyson added that the UK “create more wealth and more jobs by being outside the EU than we will within it”. He also claimed that free movement of people within the EU meant he could not employ the staff he wanted to. He said that he was not allowed to employ people unless they came from the EU, otherwise it took more than four months, adding: “Why on earth would you chuck out researchers with that valuable technology which they then take back to China or Singapore and use it against us?” Someone else who needs to wake up? |
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A billionaire manufacturing boss has launched an impassioned plea for Brexit in a devastating personal blow to David Cameron's Remain campaign.
In a letter explaining his stance to his employees, JCB boss and Conservative peer Anthony Bamford said the UK was a 'trading nation' that could 'stand on its own two feet'. The intervention from one of the Tory Party's biggest donors is a significant boost for the Leave campaign as the referendum enters its final fortnight. Lord Bamford is the first major employer to write to his staff and recommend a Brexit vote despite Downing Street efforts to tie up business support for staying in the EU. Someone else who needs to wake up? |
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mecce the undisputed concern of the majority is immigration;cut european legislature and that will then undoubtedly be then in our own hands.
and please dont quote swiss trade relation deals over immigration-it is not a comparison with our economy |
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As an Ingerland fan I hope we get beyond the group stages so that 50,000 brexit voters have to stay in La Belle France until after 23rd June.
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