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Cumani for the Helena Springfield lot.
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Heads up - there is a "time of our lives" programme with Pat on Sky sports 2 at 9.30pm
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carrot1960
10 Nov 15 19:47 Joined: 05 Feb 08 | Topic/replies: 9,151 | Blogger: carrot1960's blog 4500 + Winners and he will be best remembered for the c* nt of a ride he gave El Gran Senor On a tribute thread to a fantastic jockey i find this post quite offensive. I'm sure in history he will best be remembered for winning the race of the century on Bustino or the Arc on Dancing brave, but to post that about a horse that got beaten a sh/hd and don't think he actually did anything wrong is appalling! Poor show imo. |
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Yes bad form, did you have a big bet on it?
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carrot1960 10 Nov 15 19:47
4500 + Winners and he will be best remembered for the c* nt of a ride he gave El Gran Senor. Only by ****s and for the record he did nothing wrong on El Gran Senor. I'm sure plenty on here have a view on him with regards to not caring too much about a place if he couldn't win but the more decent posters appreciate that there's a time and a place. |
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RIP Pat ,many memories ,Dancing brave, Silver patriarch , Rock Hopper , and many more, great man , God bless.
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Just heard the news, really shocked and saddened.
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Well said Ima - let's remember Pat for what he was - a giant of the sport, who has given many of us memories we will always cherish.
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Btw not wishing to ruin the thread, but carrot, your comments are typical of a compulsive dead head who see's horse racing as nothing more than a betting medium. You're a tool of the highest order.
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Carrot. You have crossed the line. Obviously NOT a racing man, just a vegetable by your own admission.
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Nonaynever coming from you i take it as a compliment
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Carrott I guess you won't be watching sky sports 2 in a few minutes time then.
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RIP Pat, you were a hell of a jockey.
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A winner.
RIP |
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Signing in.
1986 was the year i started gambling on horses, and i backed Dancing brave every race it ran. After winning on Dawn Run gold cup and West Tip grand national, Eddery's exploits on Brave made me think i was gifted from god to Gamble. Here i still am 30 years later. ![]() RIP Pat. |
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El Gran Senor pulled clear of the 3rd in the Derby and when Eddery asked it to go the horse had plenty of time to do so but just got out-battled/out-stayed by Secreto.
He rode a very similar race on El Gran Senor to the one where he won the Coronation Cup on Rainbow Quest yet nobody considers that a "cun* of a ride" do they? Mainly because the 2nd that day was able to stay with him. |
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Other not so high profile but rides that stick in my mind
Montekin(i think) winning Horris Hill pulling double Fingals Cave winning Cumberland lodge as above Free Guest in the Nassau absolutely bolting up plus a couuple more of Cumanis Fish N Chips in the Extel and last but not least Dallas in the Brittania Hcap (Rae Guest would ride and get them hcapped) then Pat would take over and dot up with the hcap good things |
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He's on Sky Sport 2 now - time of their lives with Carson and Joe Mercer. Doesn't look well but don't know when the program was made.
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R.I.P. Pat
Sad, sad news. Backing unraced 2yo's owned by Abdulla, trained by Henry and ridden by Pat was a real strategy for me back in the day. And then there was that Arc... ![]() |
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63 and now ay old Pat Eddery will be greatly missed R.I.P Champ.
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Best race for me was when he won the Arc on Dancing Brave in 1986
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Think it was his brother who used to book his rides
Always kept an eye out to see if he was having a few shillings on. Very good jock Sad news indeed being only 63 |
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Crystal; was 2012, great programme loved the stories it's what life is about!
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sheikh albadou william hill and then nunthorpe at my local-york then breeders cup.rip pat ,the greatest of a great racing era
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shouldn,t a race be named after racing great,s . what do you think
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Seaside,its his brother in law Terry Ellis you're thinking of,he was also his chauffeur.
As a young punter in the 70's it almost felt that Pat and Peter Walwyn had an air of invincibility about them. |
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Great shame. He was a very good jockey and respected by the others in the weighing room. My best memory was One So Wonderful in the 1998 Juddmonte at York. If you can't remember it, watch it on Youtube. I watched it again yesterday and still can't believe that they won.
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Sage, just watched it forget that race, Pat at his best, thousands would of been done on the photo if betfair were around.
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Agreed. Watched it last night! Frankie was virtually a full "head" in front of Pat on the line, and yet.......
Wonderful race , and all the first three jockeys got whip bans![]() |
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It was the drink that did it
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I see one of his daughters hadn't seen him in 5 years. Just phone and birthday cards. Sad story.
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wonderfull tribute from 1 of his daugthers. Sadly he succumbed to the ravages of alcohol.
My dad was kind, sweet, emotional and loved us' By Stuart Riley 11:30AM 11 NOV 2015 PAT EDDERY'S daughter Natasha has posted a heartbreaking Instagram post mourning the loss of her father after his battle with alcohol. Former champion Flat jockey Pat Eddery died on Tuesday aged 63 and his daughter wrote on Wednesday about the pain and sadness that surrounded her following his death. 'His addiction was too strong' She wrote: "Filled with grief this morning that my dad Pat Eddery is no longer here. It's been five years since I last saw [him], we stayed in touch and spoke on the phone, I never missed a birthday etc and not a day went by when I didn't think about him. "The last time I saw him face to face was when I brought him home from rehab and he drank straight away. I turned to him and said 'dad if you choose to drink over health and family, I can't be part of that life for you.' "Sadly his addiction was too strong and he couldn't overcome it. My siblings and his close friends did all we could to help him battle his illness, but we lost in the end. It has been so sad to witness his decline and my siblings and I knew that we would loose him to his demon drink. |
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Glad to see that so many posters must be around my age grouping (55) and so vividly remember the golden era of the 1980's (especially the second half) when Eddery, Cauthen, Carson, Piggot, Starkey and many more set the game alight - not to mention the trainers and horses.
Eddery was someone that was just 'always there' and he got much more right than he got wrong. Shame on the poster who decided to highlight the El Gran Senor Derby. Just no need for it. Very interesting to see the information from his daughter. But did she really need to go public about her father's problems? I don't think so and although the message is heartfelt it seems more about her than him IE 'I turned to him and said....' Rather typical of a younger generation for whom discretion has no meaning. Probably the birth of social media to blame. Things like that need to be kept private. Whilst it doesn't diminish our memories of one of the best jocks of all time, I am sad to read it and I wish she had not done such a thing. RIP Pat... |
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The Knight, one suspects it was the worst kept 'secret' in racing, and although you had to read between the lines yesterday regarding his 'illness', his battle with depression and alcoholism was referred to by Jon lees in today's RP.
RIP Pat |
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Thanks for that yes you are correct I am getting old myself now and starting to forget a few things. See him in my minds eye like it was yesterday. |
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ribero - seaside
Pat and Terry split in 1999 - after a more than 20 years association. That was 4 years before Pat gave up riding. Peter Walwyn wrote a letter of appreciation to the Racing Post. THE parting of Pat Eddery and Terry Ellis is a particularly sad event. During the time Pat rode for me as stable jockey, and ever since, the co-operation between the three of us has been remarkable, without a single disagreement. A large part of Pat's success is due to the organising abilities of Terry. Pat will, no doubt in his brilliant and inimitable way, ride as well as ever, but he will be hard-pressed to find an agent of such calibre. I wish them both the very best. With over 800 winners since the first one-a record partnership between trainer and jockey-I will continue to use Pat on every occasion he is available. PETER WALWYN |
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hopefully Prince Abdulla sponsors a race in his name at York or Ascot next year...
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Cheers onlooker,yes I knew they'd fallen out but didn't know when.
Seaside know what you mean,always had a ciggie going and liked a bet,funningly enough watching Time of our lives last night Carson mentioned his pilot who like Terry was another face always about.Carson said he did nearly all the flying himself,quite understandable when you saw his man! |
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"Probably the birth of social media to blame.
Things like that need to be kept private" I wouldn't agree with that, it was a very heartfelt message, and it was no secret they had a distant relationship because of his drinking. She was just saying exactly how it was, and the last part she said, "I don't think of that man, the alcoholic, he wasn't my dad. My dad was kind, sweet, emotional and, while he never said much, I know he loved us all." She was just sharing her thoughts, very sad story. She didn't cover anything up and certainly remembered all that was good about him. |
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rip Pat Eddery. really shocked, what a legend! gone to young!
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