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By:
judorick
When: 20 Nov 14 14:03
getting a serious discussion on here is very rare

even rarer in these circumstances, better off not bothering sonny
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 20 Nov 14 14:05
I don't think I was being overly-harsh Roy, it's just that it's very clear he's not telling the truth and that kind of braggadocio sticks in my throat.
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 20 Nov 14 14:09
Certainly NOT over harsh JM. My post was just to warn Sam against trifling with your evil self!LaughWink
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 20 Nov 14 14:11
but what really surprises me is that 90% of you can't seem to comprehend that I have a (pretty much) foolproof method that I imagine only two or three other traders may have figured out too.

Wonder how many gamblers have come up with a "foolproof method" over the years...

I think you'll find most people are sceptical because you seem unwilling to provide any evidence of this remarkable no-lose run.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 20 Nov 14 14:12
must admit, if i'd made between £30-£480 on 1,017 consecutive markets i'd be getting blown by a couple of redheads right now...certainly wouldnt be shooting the breeze on here!
By:
duncan idaho
When: 20 Nov 14 14:14
i guess that 1,017 consecutive markets doesnt include the +£2.67 in the screenshot then  Mischief
By:
geoff m
When: 20 Nov 14 14:16
If we accept the fact that you have had 1,000 winning trades in a row(which 99%plus) dont, WTF would you want to come on here and help others/share with your competitors.
Its no point in you discussing trading with others as you obviously cant learn anything from anybody seeing as you are so successfull
Correct me if im wrong but i allways thought the best part of a secret winning edge was keeping it that way.
By:
Slicer
When: 20 Nov 14 14:20
Whilst I have the utmost respect for the op and believe him without reservation, I must point out that the only proven pro punter on BetFair was Baulked, who shirley must be remembered by all the old timers. He never had a losing selection-that's right-NEVER! There was a waiting list of years for membership to his Baulked Line. He retired to the Bahamas to  enjoy the rest of his days sipping pina coladas  by the swimming pool of his luxury 5 star hotel, served by a bevy of dusky maidens.


I hope this clarifies the matter
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 20 Nov 14 14:21

Nov 20, 2014 -- 8:03AM, judorick wrote:


getting a serious discussion on here is very rareeven rarer in these circumstances, better off not bothering sonny


I think I'll take your advice mate

By:
holywell
When: 20 Nov 14 14:22
Geoff,

A blind man on a galloping horse can see where he wanted to go with this.
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 20 Nov 14 14:22

Nov 20, 2014 -- 8:16AM, geoff m wrote:


If we accept the fact that you have had 1,000 winning trades in a row(which 99%plus) dont, WTF would you want to come on here and help others/share with your competitors.Its no point in you discussing trading with others as you obviously cant learn anything from anybody seeing as you are so successfullCorrect me if im wrong but i allways thought the best part of a secret winning edge was keeping it that way.


Because believe it or not, I wanted to have a discussion and maybe help a few people out. We are all in the same boat here, but I guess nobody gives a damn

By:
geoff m
When: 20 Nov 14 14:24
I have a goose that ive found a secret way for it to lay golden eggs.
As a businees model going forward what should I do:
1) Keep the goose and maximise the profits keeping the rarity value of the eggs?
2) Sell the goose?
3) Contact all other goose owners and share my experience?
By:
themover
When: 20 Nov 14 14:25
what's going on 'ere? Has someone found the Grail?
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 20 Nov 14 14:25
I have a goose that I've found lays normal eggs.
What do I do?
1) Ring the Daily Mail and tell them it lays golden eggs, get them to print it, but provide no proof.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 20 Nov 14 14:26
geoff, do you pay PC on these 'golden eggs' and, if so, how much last week?  Grin
By:
geoff m
When: 20 Nov 14 14:26
Yer cant do that Darlo thasts a con!
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 20 Nov 14 14:30
Silly me!
By:
Deltâ
When: 20 Nov 14 14:32
and the people who bought your eggs have been shown how to breed their own, so your business is going kaput!
By:
Slicer
When: 20 Nov 14 14:33
Mr PTS92 reminds me of my early naïve days in gambolling.Peopul wood share ideas and information. But Mr 92- you really must realise that you must not give your edge away. There are sharks on here ready to devour any minnows that go floating by. BetFair is based on 1 against 1. You might be betting against me directly, but you would not know it. Keep your edge to yourself. If you are genuine- make enough in a few years to buy everything your heart desires and then stop. Be good to your family and friends and also give a bit to charidees. You will of had a worthwhile life benefitting yourself and others. But if you are not genuine and have given yourself false hope, you are destined for a gambollers life of misery, delusion, frustration and despair.

I hope this further clarifies the matter!
By:
tomdeane
When: 20 Nov 14 14:37
Sam, please post your PC charges and then perhaps people will be more willing to engage with you.

You must understand that it's hard to believe you have strung such a sequence together, but that you didn't know there was a Betfair radio channel, or that you screwed up a trade put in place purely to watch a race on live video. It's just all so implausible!

However, perhaps you could kick-start a more useful discussion by telling us the most valuable things you have learned over the past year or so that helped you become so successful...
By:
Carrera32
When: 20 Nov 14 14:39
Think he has learned a lot in the last 24 hours Tom.
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 20 Nov 14 14:55

Nov 20, 2014 -- 8:37AM, tomdeane wrote:


Sam, please post your PC charges and then perhaps people will be more willing to engage with you.You must understand that it's hard to believe you have strung such a sequence together, but that you didn't know there was a Betfair radio channel, or that you screwed up a trade put in place purely to watch a race on live video. It's just all so implausible!However, perhaps you could kick-start a more useful discussion by telling us the most valuable things you have learned over the past year or so that helped you become so successful...


Absolutely Tom, it would be my pleasure to put this thread to its intended use (that includes me not posting any further personal details such as PC charges etc). First and foremost I would recommend recording your trading in order to assess where things went right, and also where they may have gone wrong. If your only source of learning is during real-time trading, a lot of information may be missed and therefore having evidence to watch back really makes a big difference in gaining an understanding of how the market moves and why. The second, but equally as important step, was learning to accept my losses. And yes, there was PLENTY of them in the beginning. It took the better part of a year to train myself to simply click take that initial loss rather than hoping and praying that it may come back down into the green. Finally sticking with a method that works, as opposed to switching between multiple as soon as one, or multiple, trades go against you. If you come across an edge in the market, STUDY, STUDY, STUDY how and if you can develop that into a long-term, profitable method

By:
holywell
When: 20 Nov 14 15:00
Sam,

You said you'd posted your last post on this forum two hours ago, what changed ?
By:
maelduin
When: 20 Nov 14 15:01
A foolproof system that he wants to share with everyone. ROTFLMAO!! No lemmings on this board so GET LOST.
By:
buzzer
When: 20 Nov 14 15:03
I am extremely thick and an imbecile ProTraderSpam, could you please add up your figures/p and l for the 17th of November on the forum for me?
By:
geoff m
When: 20 Nov 14 15:03
Apologies had to go and feed the goose.
Sam
It took the better part of a year to train myself to simply click take that initial loss rather than hoping and praying that it may come back down into the green.
Where does that fit in the 1,000 plus consecutive winning trades.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 20 Nov 14 15:08
duncan idaho
20 Nov 14 14:12
Joined:  08 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 16,697 | Blogger: duncan idaho's blog
must admit, if i'd made between £30-£480 on 1,017 consecutive markets i'd be getting blown by a couple of redheads right now...certainly wouldnt be shooting the breeze on here!


Laugh

themover
20 Nov 14 14:25
Joined:  25 Apr 03 | Topic/replies: 35,640 | Blogger: themover's blog
what's going on 'ere? Has someone found the Grail?


Laugh
By:
mememe
When: 20 Nov 14 15:13
protradersam
did you see my earlier advisory post to you?
You shouldn't assume that forumites are numpties because they challenge you.
You should be humble and also post your evidence (as reasonably asked for by some) if you want to engage them.
We have had numerous charlatans on here (Brimardon being the charlatanist in my opinion).
They are generally a good lot in my experience.
HTH
By:
desperatemunter
When: 20 Nov 14 15:15

Nov 20, 2014 -- 8:22AM, ProTraderSam92 wrote:


Nov 20, 2014 --  2:16PM, geoff m wrote:If we accept the fact that you have had 1,000 winning trades in a row(which 99%plus) dont, WTF would you want to come on here and help others/share with your competitors.Its no point in you discussing trading with others as you obviously cant learn anything from anybody seeing as you are so successfullCorrect me if im wrong but i allways thought the best part of a secret winning edge was keeping it that way.Because believe it or not, I wanted to have a discussion and maybe help a few people out. We are all in the same boat here, but I guess nobody gives a damn


you 'wanted  to have a discussion'  thats rubbish. Not sure such an impulse even exists - and if it does, you'd already have done : after all one one does not announce one is about to speak, one just does it .

By:
desperatemunter
When: 20 Nov 14 15:16
Bang to Rights.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 20 Nov 14 15:18
penny's dropped..it's windsor boy innit  Cry
By:
desperatemunter
When: 20 Nov 14 15:18
just saw memememe's post, it's right - you got the hump way too early to create an impression of sincerity.  You went looking for it.  Humility a key word, and a component of successful undertakings.
By:
Deltâ
When: 20 Nov 14 15:20
warwick just text


foydsc
By:
buzzer
When: 20 Nov 14 15:20
I am extremely thick and an imbecile ProTraderSpam, could you please add up your figures/p and l for the 17th of November on the forum for me? Or 17th Nov '14 P&L may be preferable?
I await your response.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 20 Nov 14 15:21
he's gone. account cloedf.
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 20 Nov 14 15:22
It took the better part of a year to train myself to simply click take that initial loss rather than hoping and praying that it may come back down into the green.

How have you managed to go from that strategy, into never having a losing trade?
By:
mememe
When: 20 Nov 14 15:23
desperatemunter
you have promoted me ... I have now got 4 me's.
I'm a 4 me general!
By:
geoff m
When: 20 Nov 14 15:24
Sam so once youve converted everyone to your system and turned every loser into a winner who will you actually win money from?




Bad news whilst p!ssing about posting on here a sly fox has nipped round the back and necked me goose.
By:
buzzer
When: 20 Nov 14 15:26
I am extremely thick and an imbecile ProTraderSpam, could you please add up your figures/p and l for the 17th of November on the forum for me? Or 17th Nov '14 P&L may be preferable?
I await your response.
17th Nov '14 P&L may be even more preferable
By:
big aitch
When: 20 Nov 14 15:29
I'm convinced he is iquitmyjob, he has the same manner
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