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By:
big aitch
When: 19 Nov 14 13:08
Sam, have you been on here before under a different name? There is something familiar about your style of posting.

The reason it seems hard to believe you are correct virtually 100% of the time is because there are so many factors that influence prices, the main one is people that know something about a particular horse that effects all the prices.
By:
TRD.Racing
When: 19 Nov 14 13:10
sam There are people on here who have been doing this for many years and making a living at it. To get 100 trades go your way in a row would be very good going,a 1000 is just total bolloxs.

I'm a backer and layer so can't be doing with all this trading,but I know a few that do and 1000 in a row is just not doable
By:
HorseBurger1989
When: 19 Nov 14 13:14
1000 in a row??

Christ even the most experienced and professional traders on here couldn't hit that many in a row, and you've been doing how long Sam, a year?, I get some people pick it up quickly but its not possible to hit that many in a row imo.
By:
Carrera32
When: 19 Nov 14 13:18
How many markets in total have you been active in Sam since you joined?
By:
big aitch
When: 19 Nov 14 13:18
TRD, people who trade back and lay as well, they just do it in the same race
By:
TRD.Racing
When: 19 Nov 14 13:22
big I'm well aware of that.
By:
HorseBurger1989
When: 19 Nov 14 13:23
There's a few ways of trading though, some will sit there and trade on the same horse to then "green up", some just back a horse knowing its going to come in and then lay it slightly shorter for the same amount they backed it at, basically following the money in and then getting out. I prefer the latter if I'm doing it somedays, as it gives me a buzz knowing I've got a "free bet" LaughLaugh, I like to say "Ladbrokes have given me a free £10 bet", it makes me feel like a losing punter for a few moments Laugh
By:
tomdeane
When: 19 Nov 14 13:30
The reason it seems hard to believe you are correct virtually 100% of the time is because there are so many factors that influence prices, the main one is people that know something about a particular horse that effects all the prices.

This is surely the reason why no-one in their wildest dreams could get near 1000 winning trades in a row!

I have been betting on racing for over 15 years (successfully for 5 or 6) and trading bits and bobs for the last five. I know we all think we are better race readers than we probably are, but I know, even when I get things wrong, I am not a mug when it comes to assessing value. Every now and again, horses move against you in the market for no conceivable reason other than someone knows something that the unconnected race reader cannot possibly know. They often disappoint, too, which means there is no sense in backing them late, but ignoring the move inevitably leaves you in a bad trading position.

I'm curious to hear how the OP managed to negate this phenomenon as he/she stuck 1000 winning trades together...

By the way, if you can put that winning run together (and make around 400 quid on nine trades, I wouldn't be too concerned about your spiraling University position)...
By:
duncan idaho
When: 19 Nov 14 13:30
Fair play, this ProTraderSam92 sounds like the Real Deal
By:
Carrera32
When: 19 Nov 14 13:35
So how many markets in total have you been active in Sam since you joined? Just curious.
By:
Deltâ
When: 19 Nov 14 13:35
student finance funding gamboling, lovely
By:
HorseBurger1989
When: 19 Nov 14 13:37
If he can put that many together he should just ring the uni and tell them where they can shove his position LaughLaugh

Making £400 a day he might as well pack that in.
By:
buzzer
When: 19 Nov 14 13:41
Well done ProTraderSPAM we all bow down to you Grin
By:
mememe
When: 19 Nov 14 13:41
Protradersam
good luck to you.
About 4 years ago I developed a "system" and made £25k in 4 months and then lost it all in 2 months - betting to win.
I then spent the next 3 years working on a lay "system" ... I have worked out the logical weakness in the pricing of some horses and use this to make my lay selections.  97% accurate and prices under 10.  I think I've got it right this time!
Not a trader - very scary given the volatility in some markets - but again, good luck to you.
By:
Big Boss
When: 19 Nov 14 13:42
keep net is brimming to full, well done OP Laugh
By:
HorseBurger1989
When: 19 Nov 14 13:44
Delta

People with half a brain don't want to work the "man", the man being the government, the corporations, anyone with half a brain know how the bastards work and its not nice.

I feel for the poor suc kers having their pants pulled down and being fu cked, and they have to do it with a smile on their faces.

The OP has done well here, he's fished like a world beater here, even I would of been proud of this.
By:
big aitch
When: 19 Nov 14 13:45
let's all have a guess at Sam's previous forum name, I think it was,

ihavequitmyjob
By:
HorseBurger1989
When: 19 Nov 14 13:46
The man says "get your pants down Steven" - Steven without a moments thought pulls them down, it goes in slowly and they f uck the poor bugger.

They don't even use lubricant, it stings for the poor bastards.
By:
bannahan
When: 19 Nov 14 14:03
Johnny Mustang LaughLaughLaugh
By:
tomdeane
When: 19 Nov 14 14:04
^ Scared I thought we were talking about trading horse racing markets
By:
loper
When: 19 Nov 14 14:08
This has got Janov's fingerprints all over it.
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 14:25

Nov 19, 2014 -- 1:18PM, Carrera32 wrote:


How many markets in total have you been active in Sam since you joined?


I'd say upwards of 10,000 my friend

By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 14:28

Nov 19, 2014 -- 1:41PM, mememe wrote:


Protradersamgood luck to you.About 4 years ago I developed a "system" and made £25k in 4 months and then lost it all in 2 months - betting to win.I then spent the next 3 years working on a lay "system" ... I have worked out the logical weakness in the pricing of some horses and use this to make my lay selections.  97% accurate and prices under 10.  I think I've got it right this time!Not a trader - very scary given the volatility in some markets - but again, good luck to you.


That original profit margin is incredible meme, and I wish you nothing but good fortune for your new method!

By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 14:31

Nov 19, 2014 -- 1:44PM, HorseBurger1989 wrote:


DeltaPeople with half a brain don't want to work the "man", the man being the government, the corporations, anyone with half a brain know how the bastards work and its not nice. I feel for the poor suc kers having their pants pulled down and being fu cked, and they have to do it with a smile on their faces.The OP has done well here, he's fished like a world beater here, even I would of been proud of this.


This is the exact reasoning that has fuelled my, and I will say it, addiction to trading on the horse markets. Being at university and seeing what career options would be available to me in 'x' amount of years scared me sh*tless, giving me an extreme incentive to want to figure out an edge in the market and capitalize on it

By:
Carrera32
When: 19 Nov 14 14:32
Sam, if you look at your Premium Charge portal it will show you exactly how many markets. Will also show how much PC you have paid. But you would know that wouldn't you?
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 14:33
And a note to future posters who may think this all bull: I will only be responding to positive responses and will be more than happy to answer any of your questions
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 19 Nov 14 14:33
Its the new Adam Heathcote
By:
Deltâ
When: 19 Nov 14 14:34
get on, and get on large ..


will you be doing more you tube vids ?
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 14:35

Nov 19, 2014 -- 2:32PM, Carrera32 wrote:


Sam, if you look at your Premium Charge portal it will show you exactly how many markets. Will also show how much PC you have paid. But you would know that wouldn't you?


This may or may not be my first Betfair account. Now please take your negative comments elsewhere

By:
pablo-fanque
When: 19 Nov 14 14:38
I will only be responding to positive responses and will be more than happy to answer any of your questions

i guess it's like trading , you get positives and negatives ,,,,,,,,,,,oh hold on
By:
carrot1960
When: 19 Nov 14 14:45
999 BETS YES A 1000 Laugh
By:
sj
When: 19 Nov 14 14:47
charlie bucket has found the Golden Ticket
By:
duncan idaho
When: 19 Nov 14 14:55
King of Dubai
19 Nov 14 14:24

It's like ****g whack-a-mole on here.

You quell one goon, then another misfit crawls out of the woodwork.



whack-a-mole  Laugh
By:
tomhunt
When: 19 Nov 14 14:59
charlie ****wit more like
By:
Carrera32
When: 19 Nov 14 15:26
You haven't got a clue what I am on about have you Sam?
By:
mememe
When: 19 Nov 14 15:34
Protradersam
thanks for your kind remarks re my earlier post.  I assume you are genuine, but there a many cynics on here (probably rightly so given the likes of brimardon and westbourne racing ... and so on).
By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 15:53

Nov 19, 2014 -- 3:26PM, Carrera32 wrote:


You haven't got a clue what I am on about have you Sam?


Crap sorry mate, did I misread what you said? I thought the 'but you would know that wouldn't you?' had a hint of sarcasm. Hard to read tone of voice over the internet haha

By:
ProTraderSam92
When: 19 Nov 14 15:55

Nov 19, 2014 -- 3:34PM, mememe wrote:


Protradersamthanks for your kind remarks re my earlier post.  I assume you are genuine, but there a many cynics on here (probably rightly so given the likes of brimardon and westbourne racing ... and so on).


Being new to the forum, I didn't even fathom that there would be people out there frauding about there trading success. I'll certainly be more understandable with the 'haters' from now on

By:
Deltâ
When: 19 Nov 14 15:56
pier to pier sight, hang on....oh ...
By:
duncan idaho
When: 19 Nov 14 15:56
Out of interest, how much PC have you been deducted today, Sam?
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