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Scotland -vote yes..
Scotland -vote yes..
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how can you have the english pound if you vote yes you are a independent country so you will have to vote if you want the euro or your own currency
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Loper, even if that was the case, if we dont get a currency union, we wont be taking a share of the uk debt, the uk have already said they are responsible for the whole of the debt if we separate.
as a new country we would have no debt and can still use the £ without a lender of last resort. would also make banks more responsible as without a lender of last resort business's would act in a more responsible manner. we would not be defaulting on a debt because the uk have taken responsibility. As a new country, one of the richest in the world, without any debt, Scotland would also find it easy to get money on the international money markets. Capitalism at its finest... |
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Good point, Wesdag.
An end to those dark afternoons in winter. |
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it is not the english pound mate, we have more than paid our way, and the bank of england is a nationalised body, again we have contributed more than our fair share over the years.
it is as much ours as it, is yours. |
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Aberdonia,
simple question. Will you match my bet of 1k on a no vote with your bet of 1k on a yes vote winning? |
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The UK pound sterling belongs to the UK. If you're in the UK it is equally as much Scotlands as Englands. If you vote to leave the UK then you will have to sort something out, whether that is officially or unofficially.
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this could leave a divided Scotland....civil war!
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given the current odds, no i wont. and i know how daft scottish folk can be especially the coffin dodgers who vote early and vote often.
yes is ahead in every age group bar the over 60s, in that group NO is at 70 per cent. The senile cnts should bot be allowed a vote imo.  |
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"you will find out soon enough as when Yes wins, all the bluffs will mean nowt."
yet you won't bet on it? That to me suggests you aren't as confident as your earlier statements suggested  |
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no, i am not confident, but getting more hopeful every day,
and this has nowt to do with being anti english, i am not even a nationalist. just want to be like a dutchman, a swede and a dane. |
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the black hole of the 'London centric' economy and 'establishment' is sucking the lifeblood of all outlying parts of the UK, but luckily we in Scotland have a chance to opt out - we've been ignored by one of the major parties for 50 years and taken for granted by the other and the constant is that quality of life (on the most generally accepted measures) has eroded, albeit the wealth generated has increased but I want to live in a society where welfare is FAIR, where victims of crime are treated better than perpetrators, where 'life' means 'life', where education and healthcare are free at source of delivery, where we don't waste a single penny in tax to provide a nuclear 'deterrent', where economic policies are formed to benefit Agriculture, Fishing, Tourism, SME (and not the finance industry), Food and Drink, Energy Sector..and there's only one way to have a shot at that and it's to vote YES.
yes there will be a significant financial burden at the outset as there is when you set up any operation/business but for the price of a family holiday in Florida, each year for say next 10 years, I'd gladly sign up against the benefits above. And for those who say 'currency' - then I see three options a) negotiate post-YES with BoE to keep the pound - their position till now has been what you would expect of the 'establishment' but would change for sure faced with an Independent Scotland as it wouldn't be in English governments best interest to lose export business particularly from North of England b) have a Scottish pound tied to English pound on 1 for 1 basis Day 1 and then let market determine with Scottish government having ability to fix interest rates when required (which may actually be the best outcome) c) migrate towards the Euro - personally not in favour but again could have some attraction either way the vote is going to be closer than the experts predicted and we'll all have to live and work together on 19th September so hopefully the campaign and the campaign leaders act a little bit more controlled and less personal before and after |
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So I garner from your response, Aberdonia, that you believe that the No vote will prevail.
Also, that you have little respect for the wisdom garnered through life experience by your Scottish elders. |
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And once all the oil's gone, the gravy train will be derailed big time.
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a yes vote is the only sensible option - a no vote wont put the argument to rest - the aberdonias of this world will go on carping until the end of time. let them have their own country - the remainder will be far more prosperous without them
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got no problem with scotland being a independent country but once you leave your on your own so no pound and no help from little england
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wesdag - once the oils gone (well that was predicted to be in 'twenty years' when first discoveries made in early 70s and here we are another 20 years on and there are still large deposits on the West to be explored) we'll still have the oil service sector where world leading companies are active all over the globe assisting Chinese, Kazakhs, Venezuelans, Nigerians, Angolans, Saudis and many others to discover and produce energy products, and which generate more than 10BN per year to the UK economy
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^ so the oil will never run out?
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I think that, despite 99% of people disagreeing with me, we are all British first and sub divided by our regional roots secondly.
In fact, few of us can say we have pure blood from a specific area of Britain only, and those that have obviously show outward signs of inbreeding! |
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I sincerely hope that the Scots vote YES.
Not only will the rest of us be able to put our clocks forward but we will then be able to delight in watching them whinge and moan at each other rather than at the beastly English at long last. |
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of course it will -its not a renewable fuel - but when it runs out in Scottish waters, there will still be billions of barrels to be found and produced elsewhere and those many Scottish based (and many Scottish owned) companies will be at the forefront for decades to come
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the English aren't beastly but the people best placed to determine the policies best suited for Scotland are the Scottish and yes even amongst us there are huge cultural, economic, religious divides so no one thinks it will be 'nirvana' but it can't be any worse than the erosion of society and values we've experienced over past 50 years
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The only disappointment or injustice is that the English haven't been offered a parallel referendum to enable us to vote to leave the Scots.
I'm sure there'd be an overwhelming majority who'd vote YES. |
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Well if we don't have a YES on the 18th, I'll be pushing for your referendum!
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An independent Scotland would take a while to find it's own feet. Could take a decade or 2, but it should become prosperous regardless of all the obstacles.
However will all the bright young things want to remain in Scotland? They could lose a generation of their greatest minds and that may be what puts the nail in the coffin of an independent Scotland. |
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Scotland has been losing its best minds for years now. We have a declining population as people elect to seek out a better life in Canada, NZ, Australia etc. We can produce em, just cant keep em all.
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rupeski - check your facts please -
Scotland’s population continues to rise and reached its highest ever total in 2013. The statistics published below by the National Records of Scotland (NRS) show that the estimated population of Scotland was 5,327,700 in mid-2013, the highest ever. The figures, based on 2011 Census data, show a rise of 14,100 people since mid-2012 |
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And just prior to an Independent Scotland we could see an either bigger mass exodus of the brightest and the best as well as a large chunk of the rest of the top 10% whilst they are still free to move as EU citizens.
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The Union has survived for 307 years !
I firmly believe that Caladonia has far more to lose than to gain ! |
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I know somebody who said she will leave if it is a yes vote. The prospect didn't stop her buying a house and planning wedding here though.
Then again she once left a polling station without voting as she couldn't find 'The Tories' on the ballot paper. |
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Just heard that Alec has declared that Bitcoins will be the new currency of an Independant Scotland ..
A new Currency backed by nothing and promoted by chancers..... A bit like the SNP... |
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that is an old joke that one, was on the go 2 years ago, your labour
friends thought it up homefortea.find it odd that some are having a go at the Scots who want to run their own country, we are the ones who dont want to blame the English for everything, it is labour in Scotland who are the whining ****. hopefully Gordon Brown pension stealer will seek political asylum in 2 weeks time cause we dont want the t wat. |
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very strong rumour
egg-gate jim murphy was a inside job guy arrested part of security team  |
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Just made that up Aberdonia.
Round here we have a bitcoin machine installed in a local pub - And I did not make that one up... I may however complain to the moderator on here and try and get you the Red Card for calling me a Labour supporter. Agree with what you say about Gordon Brown though - that Scot with his former crony Tony Millionaire Blair killed this nation... If you vote yes I may sell up and buy an Estate in Scotland. My money will however not be in a Scottish bank.... |
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Im hearing he may be linked to the local labour party, quite high up.
please let it be true although their media bitches at the bbc wont report it properly. |
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Traditional Labour voters moving towards the YES camp,as usual they have been treated with contempt by the bags of **** they call the Scottish Labour Party.
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sh ite
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Labour MPs and the TUC have always treated their supporters with contempt.
Take Francis O'Grady the new leader of both.She has been demanding that more houses are built and her members are given above inflation pay rises. CAUSE AND EFFECT...If hundreds of thousands of new arrivals per year had been restricted then she would have both. SIMPLE. |
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i detest the labour party, they need poor people to prosper, anything that makes people dependent on them and the
state is what they want. economic progress kills them, they had their place in the 1920s to 1950s , now they should just phuck off. |