The way the gravy train riders alwaysdefend these voles makes me puke. It is us (punters) against all of them (BHA, journos, pundits etc) and always has been.

Thanks for the link dave,
Q1, Did Dwyer actually ride in the race.
Q2, Why did the CD end abruptly with Mulrennan appearing to be in mid sentence,"So i will try and sit",
Having viewed the race you would have to say that Mulrennan sat too far off the pace and didn't make any noticeable effort to make up ground in the straight with just a few light taps on the horse.

horrible man should never ride again and certainly pay back all those legal fees ffs

Mulrennans horse probably wasn't good enough but if it was showing signs of been a danger to Icebreaker I'm sure Paul would've took remedial action?.

I wonder if CH4, ATR, Racing Channels etc will get Dwyer to explain himself regarding these allegations? 1.01 NO chance.

Although the transcripts imply that David Allan was playing straight only since he got in trouble the previous season. If the CD is true (1.01 it is, how could you make it up?) then it just shows what many have thought and some have known for a long time, that the culture in the weighing room stinks.

Quick update from twitter:

@paulmstruthers "We are aware of the article that appeared in some Indian publications. Given the potentially libellous nature of the article we are consulting lawyers."

Given the potentially libellous nature of the article we are consulting lawyers."

Nothing libellous about the tape recording that the article came from.

The two greatest threats to horse racing in this country are the RSPCA and Struthers. I wish we had the Indian system whereby any jockey who 'misbehaves' is hammered.

NOT WATCHED SUNDAY FORUM BUT DID IT GET A MENTION.....have taped it watch it later

stew........who was on

He's always been a ***** little s*it, rode one for us one day, agent rang
3 times for the ride, I said he won't make weight, agent assured us
"martin said he'd do weight" I didn't go racing that day, put up 2lbs over, gave it
a sh*t ride too.

No plans for BHA inquiry into Indian race-fixing allegations
• Mumbai Mirror report names British jockeys
• No BHA investigation expected in light of accusations

Chris Cook
The Guardian, Sunday 20 October 2013 20.54 BST

The ruling body of British horse racing is not planning to investigate a sensational allegation about two British jockeys which was published on Indian news websites at the weekend. The Mumbai Mirror carried a report, reproduced by The Times of India, alleging the existence of a CD recording of an apparently incriminating conversation between Martin Dwyer and Paul Mulrennan from more than three years ago.

The report claims the conversation amounts to evidence of race-fixing and includes what it claims are extracts from a transcript in which Dwyer supposedly tells Mulrennan of his plan to back a horse in a Mumbai race the next day, a race in which Mulrennan rode. "These jockeys apparently worked in tandem for their own mutual benefit," an unnamed local official is quoted as saying in the piece.

Dwyer said on Sunday he could not comment while Mulrennan did not respond to phone calls but it is anticipated that the pair will deny the allegations and are contemplating legal action. Paul Struthers, chief executive of the Professional Jockeys' Association, said: "We are aware of the article that appeared in some Indian publications. Given the potentially libellous nature of the article, we are consulting lawyers."

According to the Mumbai Mirror, the CD "landed" on the desk of Khushroo Dhunjibhoy, chairman of the Royal Western India Turf Club (RWITC), last month. The recording dates from 13 February 2010 and the conversation relates to the Eclipse Stakes of India, run the following day.

The Mumbai Mirror's alleged transcript has Dwyer telling Mulrennan: "I am going to back the filly [Icebreaker, the eventual winner]. She should win, she is a good filly, mate."

Mulrennan, who rode the eventual fourth, Onassis, supposedly responds that Onassis's trainer "doesn't even want to run this horse, Onassis, but the owners want to run the horse".

Dwyer then allegedly tells Mulrennan: "There is no way I will back that horse [Onassis] within a week… So you do what you want, you can ****g back the horse [Onassis] if you want… She is too good." And he advises against saying anything to Icebreaker's jockey, David Allan, also British-based. Mulrennan is said to end the conversation by saying; "So I will try and sit…" Footage of the race on YouTube shows Icebreaker winning comfortably while Mulrennan's mount plugs on into a never-threatening fourth of six.

Dhunjibhoy is quoted in the Mumbai Mirror as saying: "No incriminating evidence like this was ever found against foreign jockeys but this recording busts the myth that they don't indulge in any wrongdoing. Owners will now have to be extremely careful about the credentials of the foreign jockeys they want to hire." However, the report says the RWITC "cannot take any retrospective penal action" because the race took place so long ago.

Several questions are not addressed in the report, notably how the recording came to be made and why it has not emerged until now. RWITC stewards recently found Dwyer guilty of not trying on a horse this year and banned him for 53 days, only to learn that the British Horseracing Authority refused to uphold that ban, an outcome described in the Indian press as "a major body blow to the RWITC's regulatory system".

The BHA earned widespread praise in British racing for taking that stance, as the only evidence offered against Dwyer in that case was footage of the race, widely interpreted as showing no wrongdoing by the jockey. But it will be a surprise to many that the regulator is not contemplating an active investigation of the latest allegations.

"If there are genuine concerns, then the first step would be for the racing authority [RWITC] to make contact with the regulatory body where the individuals are licensed," said Robin Mounsey, a BHA spokesman. Mounsey was not moved by a suggestion that the RWITC is unlikely to get in touch, having apparently decided to take no action itself.

Nice to see Chris Cook, living up to his title of racing Journalist, he posts on here
if memory serves. Both jocks need to give full explanations, or make statements straight away.
This will run until they do, they can't ignore this. A copy of the call will surely emerge.

Why? Nowt will be done by the BHA.

If the call content has been quoted verbatim, they have some serious question to answer.
There surely can't be any BHA statute of limitations, on organized racing corruption.
This story has most likely emerged because, O Dwyer walked away from the last episode,
so looks like they're after him. That last ride stunk, despite what the industry pro's professed

@paulmstruthers "We are aware of the article that appeared in some Indian publications. Given the potentially libellous nature of the article we are consulting lawyers."


This is still making me lol.

I think we will be able to detect any Indian accent if they have faked it.

If they have reported the existence and content of the cd, they will surely have to
release it to the public. If it is as stated, they will have to explain themselves, the BHA can't smother
this story, like the Zarooni debacle.

"Since the race was run three years back, RWITC stewards cannot take any retrospective penal action."

Why is there a time limit, if they are claiming to have evidence of "wrongdoing" / jockey(s) betting

silver....its naïve to think jockeys don't bet.........a guy who I worked with his dad owned an horse and he told me the jockey  was having 500 on it....the horse ended up 2nd in a gr1 race