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By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 11:50
were not arguing about after timing,it's about his betting stakes,winnings
By:
paul22
When: 28 Jun 13 11:51
Yeah bookies dont want to take 500 pound at 10/1 sir bond, but this is multiples were talking about. They will take multiples all day long, especially jockey ones because they're normally littered with bad value bets.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 11:57
a treble 150k + on the odds provided isn't Mathematicaly possible even if bookies took the bet
By:
paul22
When: 28 Jun 13 12:03
Didnt he say he was winning around 150k not that he had 150k rolling onto last one? That 150k was made up of backing them all in win singles, and having 3 doubles and the treble. Thats highly feasible when he had a 20/1 in there.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 28 Jun 13 12:08
21x7x2.75= 404.25

404.25 x £100 = 40k

what did he have £10 singles and a monkey trixie and just happened to leave the last one out.pi55 off and have a good talk with yourself for being so gullible and niave.
By:
paul22
When: 28 Jun 13 12:13
Dear oh dear biscar, cant have a normal discussion without getting rude and aggressive. I bet your a delight! Im sorry if the thought of someone else potentially winning a few quid hurts you so!

Who said he only had 100 pound on the acca ( he may have, haven't read every post ) Plus he would have had 3 doubles going onto sunny hollow.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 12:13
Alona     26 Jun 13 19:48 
"jaysus you going to lay off?"

Not at all, regardless of the 4th result I still walk away with nearly 200k profit due to the variety of bets I have placed.

Should the 4th come in then the 7 figure profit comes into play.

PMSL Excited
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 28 Jun 13 12:17
paul22 cant you count ?
breakdown his declaration of £2300 a figure plucked from fresh air and show me how he staked his bets in order to get a 150k profit(later became 230k) with the potential for 7 figures.

No wonder betfair is such a cash cow when you are playing with the dummies on this thread.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 28 Jun 13 12:19
I think head office might have a problem with shop manager who just took him out for lunch Laugh
By:
paul22
When: 28 Jun 13 12:22
1 acca, 3 trebles, 6 doubles. If he had 150 on all of them thats 1500. say he had 200 singles on them thats 2300. Would easily get him to 150k profit.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 28 Jun 13 12:27
Now you embaressing yourself trying to defend the tall tale.
Would it easily get him to 150k maybe you should go look up a bet calculator and work it out.

btw its 4 trebles and he said ew so double the stake again.

a £150 e/w yankee stake £3300!! doesnt get him much more than a 100k imho
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 12:27
the prob with that is,he has 4 horses NOT 3,which dilutes his e/w,single,double,treble bets
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 12:31
The nail in the coffin is,you win 200k,the last thing on earth you would do is take the manager to lunch,COLLUSION Excited
By:
paul22
When: 28 Jun 13 12:31
Yep 4 trebles, my mistake. Ok well the maths doesn't add up i guess. I hope he won a decent amount anyway.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 28 Jun 13 12:33
I think head office might have a problem with shop manager who just took him out for lunch after handing over a cheque for £130,000
By:
paul22
When: 28 Jun 13 12:34
he does say average of 28/1 for first winner ( it was about 28 on here i seem to think ) if that changes anything
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 12:36
he stated only £800+ of bet was on betfair
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 12:41
lets be kind give him 28/1(20/1)

an e/w Yankee @ £105 is £2310

6/4,6/1,28/1,place 9/2

returns £99.7k max
By:
Facts
When: 28 Jun 13 12:47
paul22     28 Jun 13 12:31 
Yep 4 trebles, my mistake. Ok well the maths doesn't add up i guess. I hope he won a decent amount anyway.


ffs ! The guy didn't win a cent !! Its all fantasy. Why are people continuing to be so gullible - when many on here have proved it (mathematically)to be bullshit from la la land !!
By:
thearchmeister
When: 28 Jun 13 12:58
I dont believe it he is in the paper collecting a cheque here
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2LSt1B5v2es/TAJ9fhSnBiI/AAAAAAAAATE/waY2s9Putso/s1600/mitty.jpg
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 28 Jun 13 13:02
If the OP has won what he claims then i'm Andre in Andorra Wink

The initial posting was OK, but he was aggressive for no real reason on his next two posts and it was all downhill from then on. No staking plan mentioned, confusion over how much was actually bet on here and the more importantly, the maths don't add up. If he hadn't made such 'big me up' ridiculous claims over the sum he won, he may actually have been lauded for his initial post.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 13:03
my last post on this thread is a jerry springer after thought

Sousa was in a few threads on forum about having a few winners

a new post is put up Sousa 4 timer

the stakes amount aren't stated  but fair enough his choices were

tragically poster didnt have a BET and first three come in

he's despondent,but puts in imaginary stakes to take his mind off,what should of been

says he's won 200k after 3 winners,but the maths don't add up

he turns to anger when other posters question his winnings

but many poster including me were congratulating him,until his MASSIVE WINNINGS

even a 50p ew Yankee would of made him a legend

as another poster said,legend to c()nt,harsh but true
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 13:19
So what roughly would the return be @ BF sp to a £1 stake on the following?

1x win Treble
3x win doubles
3x win singles

1x place acca
4x place trebles
6x place doubles
4x place singles

29 bets placed.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 28 Jun 13 13:21
without knowing the sps Statsman less than £1000
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 13:22
3.50 Sailsbury – Asatir ~  28.31 / 5.7

6:40    Bath - Pitchoun  ~ 2.88 / 1.68

7.10 Bath - World Map ~ 6.4 / 3.11

9.10 Bath - Sunny Hollow ~ 0 / 2.27
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 13:23
£1083.84 was my calculation
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 13:32
£2300\29= £79.31per unit

79 x £1083.84 = £89,920
By:
Purdey
When: 28 Jun 13 13:38
My... God...

I can't believe you lads are STILL wasting your time trying to prove this guy wrong...

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Get a life!

Or even better, study today's cards and pick some winners! (Let me guess, you've already done that and are confident you've picked some really good horses??)
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 13:43
I wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong. Just merely putting a simple calculation up to a £1 stake.
Only the op knows how he staked the bets and good luck to him.
By:
Purdey
When: 28 Jun 13 13:45
Wasn't referring to you Stats... Just the guys that are like a dog with a bone, pretending they are doing the world a favour...
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 13:45
STAT,he also stated e/w ,so that would dilute unit price further
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 28 Jun 13 13:49
How long does it take to look at the jockeys purdey?
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 13:50
Returns on a mythical £1.00 stake to BF sp

Win treble:
1/2/3 - 521.81
1/2/4 – 0.0
1/3/4 – 0.0
2/3/4 – 0.0

Win Doubles:
1/2 - 81.53
1/3 - 181.18
1/4 – 0.0
2/3 - 18.43
2/4 – 0.0
3/4 – 0.0

Win Singles:
1 - 28.31
2 - 2.88
3 - 6.4
4 - 0.0
----------------------------------------------

Place accumulator:
1/2/3/4 - 70.58

Place Trebles:
1/2/3 – 29.78
1/2/4 – 21.74
1/3/4 – 40.24
2/3/4  - 11.86

Place Doubles:
1/2 – 9.58
1/3 – 17.73
1/4 – 12.94
2/3 – 5.22
2/4 – 3.81
3/4 – 7.06

Place singles:
1 - 5.7
2 - 1.68
3 - 3.11
4 - 2.27

Total = 1083.84
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 13:54
I missed the win acca out so it would have been 30 bets
By:
Facts
When: 28 Jun 13 14:12
FFS !!! - ENOUGH !!!Cry
By:
xmoneyx
When: 28 Jun 13 14:14
Excited
By:
STATSMAN
When: 28 Jun 13 14:15
NO!!! Grin
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 28 Jun 13 14:16
So not only is the figures made up the sum's are wrong too Laugh
By:
Alona
When: 28 Jun 13 14:52
Great to see the bitter ones still questioning these subject days after the actual event.

Its such a real pleasure to see that bitterness still devours the jealous ones who resent those who win decent amounts.

Carry on backing those losers my bitter friends.

I have the same confidence as my previous selections in 2 big priced runners today but there will be no after timing or even any disclosure of which they are because it would only lead the bitter ones to a much earlier grave then they already have.

Increased stakes again with a £3,800 outlay which is greater than the last out lay which netted £217k.

Have fun my bitter losers and your concentration should be focused on your own attempts to make profit and not my profit making.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 28 Jun 13 14:57
Laugh
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