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Tinkler- get the 'zoombet lite' app for betfair. Much quicker than the betfair app
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BETFAIR LIQUIDITY AN UTTER JOKE AND GETTING WORSE,PLACE MARKET NOW NON EXISTENT,IN RUNNING MARKETS NOW NON EXISTENT,BIGGER THAN THE BETFAIR ON HORSES THAT HAVE ANY CHANCE OF WINNING ONCOURSE,NO COMMISSION WITH ONCOURSE LAYERS,NO PREMIUM CHARGE WITH ONCOURSE LAYERS,NO BOTS WITH ONCOURSE LAYERS AND U CAN GET MORE THAN £12 ON,COME RACING
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Three fractions bets layed at Chester on Saturday
No qualms watsoeva Proper place terms every race even when plenty betting a fifth On the two big handicaps such a shame |
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The liquidity on here v poor
I tried to lay the first jolly on bdq Prior to setting off had 200 up at 2.88 got It matched after about an hr When most firms goin 6/4 |
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YEP 15/8 ONCOURSE,NO COM OR PC
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Stupid price to start with
Takes forever to pay out Pound ew at fifteen to eight |
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Thanks cj ,will try that. Liquidity on here is high in the last 10 mins of action. Nearly 1/2 million traded on a group 3 race a couple a weeks ago
before it went in running. Fact machine if its 15/8 on course then 99 times out of a 100 it will be bigger on Betfair unless your suggesting the on course bookies are running a 106% book. |
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ALL THE TRACKS I ATTEND ARE BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE,AND U CAN HAVE MORE THAN £12 ON,CHECK HAYDOCK OUT WEDS,GOOD LUCK
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no tinkler it's the favourite that is bigger on course than the exchange not ALL the horses.
but even so some bet to less than 1% per runner so yes , in small fields bigger than your 106% book is common |
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If all the tracks you attend Factmachine ,are bigger than the machine then they would be saturated with Albers.
Adge so your saying its okay for punters to bet on course only if they want to back the favourite or in races with small fields? The only way the on course bookies can offer anything to the punter is if they operate within a 106% on all races ,otherwise it's factual poorer value. Not much margin for error but surely someone's skilled enough to do it, the 120-140% books are the work of greedy leeches. If the off course layers can make a living off a 101% book ,then it tells you the skill level of the on course bookies that they rarely get anywhere near it. There's no point in bookies defending their positions on here ,punters have been on course and seen the odds on offer with their own eyes. |
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which off course layers make a living from a 101% book.? i'm confused.
and I can't remember the last time I bet to 120% plus on any race. maybe the last one was the grand national and , yes , we do want punte to see the odds on offer with their own eyes. better still bring your ipad or phone so that you can compare prices |
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I VERY RARELY BET IN THE RING NOW ILL USE ME PHONE .......I JUST GOT BORED WITH SEEING AS PUNTERS DOO SEEING THE PRICE CHANGE EN-BLOC....ASKING FOR THE ADVERTISED 11-10 AND BEING OFFERD EVENS
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when you're cashless you don't have any choice , johnny
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PEOPLE SAY ON HERE ........................NAME NAMES ..............IF IT HAPPENS MY QUESTION IS WHAT WILL FOLLOW?
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YEAH ADGE WEVE SEEN YOUR MENTALLITY ON HERE
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WE CAN ALL GET BY PAYING PAYING 40 NICKER A WEEK BOARD ....MUST BE GETTING HARD NOW
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I can't understand why any punter at a racecourse MIDWEEK would ever want to bet with other than a course bookmaker
the win price is the same or better on course with all short ones [ allowing for commission ] on every race. the bigger priced horses are smaller than exchanges but if the punter wants each way at 10/1 or so which they normally do the bookmaker often has a bigger place proportion...and as you can bet place only on course the value is there too. |
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tinkler- You'll find that the average GROSS operating margin of on course books is around 8-12 %. As Adge suggests, why not take your ipad/phone to any racetrack...especially northern ones...and compare available prices/value.If you are prepared to be objective about your research, your findings will suggest..accounting for commission.. that for horses 6/1 or less the value is MAINLY in the ring...for horses between 6/1 and 10/1, the ring is highly competitive....and for horses 10/1 or over the value is MAINLY on exchanges.On that basis, anybody who likes to back outsiders to small stakes is most definitely better off at home on the exchanges,complaining about the on course value...alternatively,anybody who prefers betting the front two or three to a few quid is MOST DEFINITELY better off having a punt in the ring...especially with the likes of Adge and Factmachine.
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WHAT ABOUT THEM THAT DONT BET EW .....14-1 ON THE BOARD AND ITS 17.0 ON THE MACHINE .......DONT THEY TURN UP OR EXIOST IN PERSON OR PEOPLES IMAGINANATION
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if I can go back to the unbiased point of yesterday regarding his friend
he says all the books were 5/2 and as he watched they all altered to 9/4. why was he watching and not taking the 5/2 [ which he missed ], well there can only be one answer , that he wanted 11/4. but if the price went out to 11/4 it would with all books so then what would he do then , take the 11/4 or wait for someone to go 3/1 . punters want the same price commission free with on course books but when they are offered it they are still not happy . is there never an occasion when they miss a price on here when it shortens or doesn't that count |
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they are better off on here , johnny , as long as they don't want much on
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IF ID MISSED THE 5-2 THEN TOOK 9-4 IT GOES OFF 15-8 ID BE HAPPY
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maybe , but you can never please everybody
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I layed a £20 / £10 once and left the price on the board!
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WAS AT HEXHAM THE OTHER WEEK(WHEN WE HAD SOME RESULTS)THE JOLLY WAS 3.65 TO BACK ON HERE AND I WAS DISPLAYING 11/4 ON MY BOARD,WHICH AT THE TIME WAS THE BIGGEST PRICE ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH,A PUNTER CAME UP TO ME AND SAID "DO U WANT TO LAY A THREE FOR ONE"I WOULDNT BE SUITABLE AT THIS HOUR TO WRITE DOWN WHAT I SAID TO HIM,THE POINT BEING SOME PEOPLE ARE NEVER HAPPY.
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BUT ON HERE IF U WANT LETS SAY 300 QUID AT 5-2 U SHUD GET IT ......NOW THE QUESTION IS ,WHAT %%% OF THE BETTTING PUBLIC ARE BELOW THE £300 STAKING LINE............BECAUSE MY GUESS IS ABOUT 98....
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REMEMBER "YOU CANT BE ON WHEN ITS GONE" BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE,COME RACING.MY NEW AT LEAST 10% BIGGER THAN CHESTERBET SIGNS MIGHT BE READY FOR THE NEXT CHESTER MEET
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NORFOLK HOW MANY TIMES U LAID THAT BET CAUSE THATS THE 6TH TIME YOUVE POSTED THAT
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IF U WANT £300 ON HERE U "SHOULD"GET IT,
CLASSICI THINK IVE WET MYSELF AGAIN |
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PAT IVE THREW UM STRAIGHT IN THE BIN,NEW Y FRONTS REQUIRED
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NO CRUNCHIE FOR YOU FRIDAY ...AS FOR YA SCORE .....
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ID SAVED UP FOR YOU AS WELL
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IVE DECIDED WHAT TO DO WITH SCORE
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johnnywilkinson • June 11, 2013 10:50 AM BST
NORFOLK HOW MANY TIMES U LAID THAT BET CAUSE THATS THE 6TH TIME YOUVE POSTED THAT You mean, i've layed a £120 / £60, i'd better have some 15/8 back! |
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WHAT SIZE ARE YOU
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Hope you havent got those signs printed yet, you can do a bit better - ChesterBet is 10%(9/10) worse than the SP, so the SP is 11%(10/9) better than ChesterBet
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Keep up johnny, for f*ck's sake!
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Morning Lord Facts, remember that before you do your signs, you may not always be 10% more than ChesterBet, unless of course you are offering this as a 'price guarantee'
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