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By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 22:52
It was a "well planned plot", Gery.
Have you never heard of one?
By:
thirty-three
When: 05 Jun 13 22:54
Another condescending post from the the racingstar, the eejit with the biggest chip on his shoulder.

Get a girlfriend lonely oneWink
By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 22:56
It would be impossible to not talk down to you,trente trois.
I neither backed or Layed the beast.
By:
thirty-three
When: 05 Jun 13 22:57
Say something positive for a change Chippie.
By:
ebulGery
When: 05 Jun 13 22:59
jonjo does it all the time

this was extremely blatant

but yes punters could guess this was going to happen

but 5/6f seems a bit strong to me

form readers were well put away
By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 22:59
How much more positive do you need?
The horse was an extremely well layed out plot.
The jockey change was the finishing touch.
Good luck to them.Anybody who Layed it should be in "Care".
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 05 Jun 13 23:00
From Twitter

GeoffBanksRacing ‏@geoffbanksbet 5h

My office never laid a bet on Planetoid. We were alerted to strange betting patterns. But I agree this has to be fully investigated


and my favourite ...

Planetoid finds improvement on handicap debut by the application of wheelbarrows of cash.

Laugh
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 05 Jun 13 23:02
Racingstar

If no one was prepared to lay it no one would have been able to back it would they ?
By:
ebulGery
When: 05 Jun 13 23:02
If I was BHA he would get a 6 month ban from me, well layed out plot or not
Laugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 05 Jun 13 23:04
Planetoid finds improvement on handicap debut by the application of wheelbarrows of cash.
Laugh Franky
By:
racingstar
When: 05 Jun 13 23:06
Franky,
By all means,stand up to one if you feel it is right to do so.
However,this horse was running off the same 85 as its Flat Mark (possible 40 lbs wrong).
Do not bleat when you get "caned".
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 05 Jun 13 23:08
I'm not bleating racingstar I had no financial interest in the race I was at work and only learnt of the story tonight.
By:
stridingedge
When: 05 Jun 13 23:52
racingstar     05 Jun 13 22:52 
It was a "well planned plot", Gery.
Have you never heard of one?


even the most well planned plots have some indication of form over similar conditions, usually horses are taken away from these conditions for a good spell to get really competitive and then returned with the accompanying market signal.

this one, the horse couldn't even jump and was always out the back, never remotely put in a race.

well done to them they got their prize today but don't be all condescending about it or act as though these plots never fail, everything has a price, i layed it at evens and was wrong this time, doesn't mean i should back all these plots at near bottom price does it?
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Jun 13 00:18
I would not blame you edge .. it was a totally ludicrous price on all known hurdles form

Jonjo does this all the time....although they are never this short
even the McManus ones
plus they don't all win
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Jun 13 00:21
still if racing star spotted this in advance and won some...wd racing star
By:
stridingedge
When: 06 Jun 13 00:24
yes i dont mind getting it wrong it was obvious it was going to put up a much better performance, i just couldn't have it on the way i'd seen it jump.

i'm wondering whether it was actually schooled much before its 6 hurdles runs to qualify for a mark.

i think its cases like this when a mark shouldn't be given, the horse has just done nothing to be rated on.

i'll know better next time with best that's for sure.

i actually look for my bets mostly on the basis in the low grade hcps that i know they have not been placed recently to do the horse justice but also know that its possible the conditions this day are likely to make it a punt, this is usually because the horse has indicated this, even if it were a year ago.

everything has a price, saying you should be in care for laying at evens is a bit strong, that's all i'm saying to racingstar Happy
By:
stridingedge
When: 06 Jun 13 00:25
he said he neither backed or layed it ebulgery
By:
stridingedge
When: 06 Jun 13 00:26
i did actually point out before the race if the horse won the race the layers would be labelled mugs by some Laugh
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Jun 13 00:30
If he did not back it then he could not have thought it a certainty to win

tbh I get it wrong every day
my motto
'people in glass houses should not throw stones'
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Jun 13 00:32
we can all claim anything after the race..look at poor old bf_fanatic
it is the before that counts in this game
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 09:29
i wish i was in the know in this game, it would be all to easy.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 09:30
it didn't even jump that well yesterday and still won easy as you like
By:
freddieb
When: 06 Jun 13 09:51
Are you lot a bit dim?...... Ffs who needs info when you can watch the market,.....  It was blatant , the truth is you all layed it, in the hope you could come on here saying " which mugs backed that at odds on" .... You did your doh , get over it ........ These gamble / drifts make this game a piece of p.iss, ........
By:
kingsburyken
When: 06 Jun 13 09:59
mattie batchelor i had a puncture near wincanton pmsl at that
By:
turnip turns
When: 06 Jun 13 10:10
Francis Keogh ‏@HonestFrank 28s
Planetoid - Mattie Batchelor, who was replaced by AP McCoy: "I got a puncture near Wincanton and did not have a spare. It's frustrating"Crazy
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 10:13
lol
By:
guinness2dear
When: 06 Jun 13 10:14
I'm sure his "frustration" will be tempered shortly..
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 10:14
Not heard of AA cover or a lift?
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 10:14
or even a taxi maybe?
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 10:15
his cheque is in the post anyway

was probably in a bookies with his mate who backed it in every shop and over the phone for 20K
By:
silvergreaser
When: 06 Jun 13 10:54
If they booked a 10lb claiming lady rider and didnt replace her it would probably have still hacked up and they would've got at least 10 times the odds in the morning.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 06 Jun 13 11:11
we can moan all we like or here will make zero difference and nothing will be done.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 06 Jun 13 11:57
"I got a puncture near Wincanton and did not have a spare. It's frustrating"

Pure and utter contempt.
By:
FrankRA
When: 06 Jun 13 12:27
freddieb 06 Jun 13 09:51 
Are you lot a bit dim?...... Ffs who needs info when you can watch the market,.....  It was blatant , the truth is you all layed it, in the hope you could come on here saying " which mugs backed that at odds on" .... You did your doh , get over it ........ These gamble / drifts make this game a piece of p.iss, ........


Another clueless idiot,someone who thinks the market is a guide,what about all those short ones that have been getting ironed out,you know the ones that have been backed from 4/5,4/6 into 4/11,2/7 and got beat,I suppose I am a mug for laying those.
By:
FrankRA
When: 06 Jun 13 12:32
BTW I said at the start of this thread that I would not be getting involved because of who it was,and because of who it was the race stunk,but it wouldnt have been the first time that one of his that has been heavily backed got beat.
By:
stridingedge
When: 06 Jun 13 12:34
don't be silly frank posters like freddie are only successful backing the winning punts and laying the losing drifters

extremely easy

can't believe how thick i am, hopefully freddie will share some of his immense knowledge, sounds really clued up.

am only ever rude to people who get up my nose on here, his comment that layers only layed it to brag after is imbecilic at best, some of us aren't interested in bragging at the expense of others.
By:
stridingedge
When: 06 Jun 13 12:41
perhaps best should school his horses a bit better in future before they hit the race course

for something to show no aptitude over jumps whatsoever and looking a likely faller in every race to be given a mark at all is utterly wrong.

horses like this should not be given a hcp mark imo
By:
silvergreaser
When: 06 Jun 13 12:48
Below is a rule from the Hong Kong book of regulation stridingedge, maybe the BHA might think of introducing something similar?.

"(25) To order that future entries or declarations be not accepted for any horse
the performances of which in their opinion have been unduly
inconsistent.
(26) To penalise any person who, in their opinion, has been responsible for or
has been a party to the unduly inconsistent running of any horse"
By:
guinness2dear
When: 06 Jun 13 12:54
If we had HK rules in the UK ye would need more graveyards..
By:
Arklearkle
When: 06 Jun 13 13:02
Of course Planetoids form was not inconsistent - it was diabolically consistent.
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