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BOOKMAKER URGES CREATION OF A NEW BODY TO SAVE RING
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Racecourses would make a lot more money by nationalising betfair and running it for their own good. Again, the law (fortunately) prevents such bully boy tactics.
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do racecourse bookmakers not pay the racecourses ?
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The funny side of all the open to all postings, is that when you disagree with a poster,not allowed to tell them they are wrong,upsets their ego,you are labelled one of the following.
Left wing Right wing Daily Mail reader £2 Punter Bookmakers apologist Bookmakers stooge. Bookie basher Dole merchant Bedsit scrounger etc. What should be accepted is that MAYBE some posters responding to threads have some relevant points to make.Instead of which abuse follows,with being labelled one of the above. What is never accepted,is that MAYBE you do have some relevant |
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*points to make.
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Of course but Racecourse's would make more if they owned the majority of on course betting. In the past they have farmed it out because it just seemed like an area of expertise that they do not understand. Some are now realising that they can own the on course betting and make more by doing so.
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Like the catering too.
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I agree unbiased, some seem to think that debating with a counter opinion is best done by simply getting personal and slagging them off, or in the case of the actual bookmakers on here ignoring them. What they really want is a thread where only there views are dominating. I suspect there is an on course storm/wind coming and they would like to get as many on their side as possible.
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I would not know anything about the catering/security/car parking mgt or any other branch of the day.
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OLIAS,U COME ON THIS FORUM SLAGGING ONCOURSE BOOKS OFF THEN GET UPSET WHEN YOU ARE FOUND OUT TO BE TALKING UTTER NONSENSE AND ACCUSE PEOPLE OF "GETTING PERSONAL AND SLAGGING OFF" U REALLY ARE PRECIOUS
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You dont know anything about the betting side of it either Olias.
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I am not upset I just dont think it aids the debate. Those that support the bookies would probably wish that you did not participate with the personal insults because it makes their side of the argument look bad.
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How do you come to that conclusion Jimeen
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PERSONNALLY SPEAKING I THINK OLIAS YA NOT A BAD CHAP ....BUT YA CLASSIC CASE OFF NOT KNOWING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN ......LET ME EXPLAIN ...THERES SEVERAL TIMES A DAY WHEN ON HERE THEYLL DECLARE THERE S.P. OF 4.2....BUT THERES ONLY 2 BOB FOR IT TRY AT THE OFF GETTING 2,000 ON YOUD END UP WITH 3.85 FOR YA DOUGH .....AND OLIAS IT DOES HAPPEN FREQENTLY ...NOW LETS SAY ITS A 10 HORSE RACE AS THERE LOADING YOU NOW START ASKING THE TATTS -RAILS BOOKS FOR A 6,000 TO 2,000.....IF YOU KNOW WHO TO ASK 2 ENQUIRIES -YOUR ON..........BECUASE THERE ARE LADS OUT THERE WHO WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN THEY DONT WANNA MESS U ABOUT SO THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FAIR BET ....BUT TRY IT ON BETFAIR AND FOR ALL THERE VWOLLOX ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES THEY BEAT THE S.P. U CAN REALLEY STRUGGLE TO GET THE BET .......................OLIAS THIS IS FACT
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Olias,you are one of those idiots who thinks betfair is the only way to bet. You even thought that 5.2 was far and away a better deal than 4/1. I know that you have no desire to actually win punting so maybe betfair is the method of punting that suits you best.
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JIMEEN,WOULD U PLEASE STOP THE INSULTS
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a hypothetical question
if offered FAIR terms how many on course bookmakers would take their redundancey tomorrow if offered yes or no and reasons why or why not |
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BECAUSE OLIAS AT 4.2 TO £68 BETFAIR BELIEVE THAT SHUD BE THE TRUE S.P. FOR THE COUNTRY .....THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT
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70%
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John Stephenson was offered but he said he still got a good ten years in him and didn't want to give up his voting rights on the board
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A SECRET BALLOT MAYBE 90 BUT IF 20 OF THAT 90 KNEW THEN -THEYD BE PREPARED TO STAY ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT WOULD VIABLE WORTH IT
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RR YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN YA GOT FORTUNES CANT YA ....BUT YA ON YA A...RS. END AND SOMEONE COMES ALONG AND GIVES YA 99P IN THE POUND THEN YA SELL
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The reason they will offer you those odds/stake is because they are under Betfair odds. The reason all these on course chaps dont simply sit at home and work from there on Betfair is because they could never make it work. The average on course bookmaker has not had to do too much thinking in the past, the market took care of that and provided they watched who and how much they took money off the worm will always turn as one bookie said. On here its much tighter and requires much more thought
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OLIAS YA RIGHT
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With 4g covering 98% of the country by the end of the year ,offering a lot quicker facility and possible introduction of wireless,
betting threw a mobile on course is likely to become very efficient. This in turn would attract more people to the track . There will then be very little need for the clowns running commission books on course. |
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Can you bet cash on 4g then?
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Haven't got it yet were I live but don't see why not.
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WHEN U RING UP FOR A BET THEN ON THE 4G THEY JUST KNOCK U BACK 5 SECONDS QUICKER THAN IF YOUR ON 3G,WITH BETFAIR AND DAQ IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY HAD 20G THERES STILL ONLY 2QUID IN THE BOX,HOPE THIS HELPS.
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What is cash, you will be asking if 4g will allow you to bet at 7/4 next instead of 1.75/1 or 2.75
Correct me if I am wrong but don't on course bookies still use 13/8 15/8 5/2 etc on their boards ? |
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Thats nonsense there's loads of liquidity on BF in the 10 mins before the off, on most races.
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OLIAS,IM OFF TO BANGOR TONIGHT,BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE EVERY RACE,NO COMMISSION,NO PREMIUM CHARGE,WOULD LOVE TO MEET U AND HAVE A CHAT
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I think what they are saying Tinkler is that you can only get 5 quid on here at 80/1 whereas you can get 6k on at 40/1 on the course without a problem
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Happy to meet up Fact but not Bangor. I go to York in August and occasionally to Leicester
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UTTOX SAT?????????
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The on course bookies aren't even bookies their commission agents, they offer BF prices with a 10% to 40% commission on top the vast
majority of the time. In effect they offer a dreadful service that racing needs to eradicate as quickly as possible. |
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on course -
bigger than the machine no commission no premium charge seems like you on course bookies are missing a trick , why dont you accomodate all the people on here that can't get on or have there accounts closed . all they would have to do is deposit a few grand and ring you up for the bet  |
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olias , do you realize how boring you are becoming due to your ignorance of bookmaker on course betting.
when it is 2.5 plenty on course are 6/4 when it is 2.62 again you can bet at 13/8 on course when it is 2.76 plenty on course are 7/4 when it is 2.88 why not take 15/8 on course when it is 3.00 you should take 2/1 all commission free and enough to satisfy everyone. it won't be on every board but enough to stop you having to run round of course as you say when it is 80 you will have to make do with 66/1 but the place for an each way bet makes up for that sorry , but you live in the past |
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on course bookie going bigger than the machine = needle in a haystack
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